Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:I’m actually surprised the right wing press hasn’t picked up on Option 3 yet. It would be so easy to bash progressive DEI with it.

You are overestimating how much the rest of the country cares about your property values.

You are underestimating how much the right wing press likes to bash DEI and crazy progressives.

It doesn't make for the types of headlines they like. What will it say? "White kids potentially forced to endure 40 minute instead of 30 minute bus rides to lower income schools with Black and Hispanic kids"?

“Out of control progressives force kids to be bused from neighborhood schools to lower performing schools across town in the name of DEI”

“Race to the bottom: In the name of DEI, progressives want your kids to have lower test scores”

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Anonymous wrote:I like the option 3. It tries to bring much needed diversity in many schools.

WJ becomes 30%, Woodward 50% and Whitman 20% FARMS?

MCPS needs to calculate bus time and see if it's practical. As long as bus rude is not longer than 20-25 minutes, it will work. Longer than than is impractical.

What is current FARMS in WJ?

19.8 according to their charts. WJ is a wonderful, diverse school with many high performing students. That’s why it’s so overcrowded, unfortunately

It's overcrowded because the geographical area assigned to it is too large and populated.

Yah people buy into WJ because its the cheapest W and the housing is dense coupled to a bunch of apts. Whitman and Churchill have very few Apts so it is easier to project attendance.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m actually surprised the right wing press hasn’t picked up on Option 3 yet. It would be so easy to bash progressive DEI with it.

You are overestimating how much the rest of the country cares about your property values.

You are underestimating how much the right wing press likes to bash DEI and crazy progressives.

It doesn't make for the types of headlines they like. What will it say? "White kids potentially forced to endure 40 minute instead of 30 minute bus rides to lower income schools with Black and Hispanic kids"?

“Out of control progressives force kids to be bused from neighborhood schools to lower performing schools across town in the name of DEI”

“Race to the bottom: In the name of DEI, progressives want your kids to have lower test scores”

I don't think most Newsmax viewers are zoned for schools with high test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually it really was an expand WJ or reopen Woodward choice. Not expand WJ, reopen Woodward, or get split up and sent to Kennedy, Einstein and Wheaton.

Einstein and Blair have no capacity.

Remove the Magnet and put it in the center of the county at Woodward, it would free up lots of seats and classrooms. Its such a good school they don't need to import good students anymore to prop up their test scores any longer right?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m resigning myself mentally to option 3. It will be fine, the bussing crowd will be happy, and kids with long bus rides will move or go to private.

Are you personally impacted by option 3?

My neighborhood would be.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m actually surprised the right wing press hasn’t picked up on Option 3 yet. It would be so easy to bash progressive DEI with it.

You are overestimating how much the rest of the country cares about your property values.

You are underestimating how much the right wing press likes to bash DEI and crazy progressives.

It doesn't make for the types of headlines they like. What will it say? "White kids potentially forced to endure 40 minute instead of 30 minute bus rides to lower income schools with Black and Hispanic kids"?

“Out of control progressives force kids to be bused from neighborhood schools to lower performing schools across town in the name of DEI”

“Race to the bottom: In the name of DEI, progressives want your kids to have lower test scores”

I don't think most Newsmax viewers are zoned for schools with high test scores.

Doesn’t matter. You think this would be about logic?

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Anonymous wrote:I like the option 3. It tries to bring much needed diversity in many schools.

WJ becomes 30%, Woodward 50% and Whitman 20% FARMS?

MCPS needs to calculate bus time and see if it's practical. As long as bus rude is not longer than 20-25 minutes, it will work. Longer than than is impractical.

What is current FARMS in WJ?

19.8 according to their charts. WJ is a wonderful, diverse school with many high performing students. That’s why it’s so overcrowded, unfortunately

It's overcrowded because the geographical area assigned to it is too large and populated.

Yah people buy into WJ because its the cheapest W and the housing is dense coupled to a bunch of apts. Whitman and Churchill have very few Apts so it is easier to project attendance.

That is not true. I chose my neighborhood because I loved the proximity to Rock Creek, and I didn't want my kids to go to Whitman or Churchill. Those schools are a little bit too much for my tastes. I love the WJ Community.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the option 3. It tries to bring much needed diversity in many schools.

WJ becomes 30%, Woodward 50% and Whitman 20% FARMS?

MCPS needs to calculate bus time and see if it's practical. As long as bus rude is not longer than 20-25 minutes, it will work. Longer than than is impractical.

What is current FARMS in WJ?

19.8 according to their charts. WJ is a wonderful, diverse school with many high performing students. That’s why it’s so overcrowded, unfortunately

It's overcrowded because the geographical area assigned to it is too large and populated.

Yah people buy into WJ because its the cheapest W and the housing is dense coupled to a bunch of apts. Whitman and Churchill have very few Apts so it is easier to project attendance.

That is not true. I chose my neighborhood because I loved the proximity to Rock Creek, and I didn't want my kids to go to Whitman or Churchill. Those schools are a little bit too much for my tastes. I love the WJ Community.

Same we bleed Green.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to bring in some history, years ago WJ families were asked by MCPS survey whether they would like to stay together and build huge addition on WJ or reopen Woodward to accommodate the growing number of students, while likely taking in some DCC schools.

Overwhelmingly, WJ parents voted to reopen Woodward. WJ parents and students went to County Council meetings all decked out in Green to show support for funding for Woodward. We’ve filled out I don’t know how many surveys about Woodward.

Now it looks like MCPS may renege on that and send WJ families from Farmland, Garrett Park and KP to other parts of the county. That’s half of WJ.

No good deed shall go unpunished. Bait and switch.

Wow, this is just...wow. The entitlement in this post is staggering. WJ families are not entitled to anything more than other MCPS families. Wow.

I would agree with you, but I know how effective WJ cluster is - The WJ PTA cluster operates with corporate discipline. It's impressive. Westside parents are tired of having their magnet students on the bus to Blair every day. So this academic program analysis is very focused on travel time for students, to dovetail with this westside community point of view.

They are welcome to advocate but pretending they are specifically deserving of short bus rides over other families is disgusting

These WJ families would have the longest bus rides. I think you are missing the point here.

DP. I am certainly missing what the PP meant by "MCPS may renege on that." What exactly did they think they had been promised, and by whom? I can see why they would have preferred their outcomes be limited to either staying at WJ or being rezoned to Woodward, but clearly those were not the only possibilities here.

Having said that, I don't think the dreaded Option 3 will come to pass when all of this shakes out.

Nothing promised but certainly implied by those early surveys and discussions.

Otherwise the WJ families surely would have voted to stay and expand the current building.

Is this a vote within the PTA? These aren't choices that should be given to a subset of MCPS families to make on their own. As you can see, the construction of Woodward impacts all down county families as well as all MoCo taxpayers.

MCPS conducted surveys and roundtables.

PTAs conducted surverys and listening sessions. PTAs are allowed to advocated (1A) and in doing so can take the pulse of their members. It isn’t binding. It also isn’t nefarious.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the option 3. It tries to bring much needed diversity in many schools.

WJ becomes 30%, Woodward 50% and Whitman 20% FARMS?

MCPS needs to calculate bus time and see if it's practical. As long as bus rude is not longer than 20-25 minutes, it will work. Longer than than is impractical.

What is current FARMS in WJ?

19.8 according to their charts. WJ is a wonderful, diverse school with many high performing students. That’s why it’s so overcrowded, unfortunately

It's overcrowded because the geographical area assigned to it is too large and populated.

Yah people buy into WJ because its the cheapest W and the housing is dense coupled to a bunch of apts. Whitman and Churchill have very few Apts so it is easier to project attendance.

That is not true. I chose my neighborhood because I loved the proximity to Rock Creek, and I didn't want my kids to go to Whitman or Churchill. Those schools are a little bit too much for my tastes. I love the WJ Community.

Same. We also love WJ for our kid. The big huge diverse school has actually been ideal for DC. If I had to go back in time I think I would vote for expand WJ over build Woodward so that WJ can continue as is just with the appropriate infrastucture.

Before the DCC people jump all over me for wanting to exclude, I am observing that there are benefits to a large school in terms of electives, clubs etc. Big doesn’t work for all kids but we like it.

There is nothing inherrently wrong with people loving their kid’s school and wanting it to continue. Isn’t that ideały what we would all feel? Loving your kid’s school because your kid is thriving there and it is convenient for family logistics?

And advocating for necessary resources to achieve that everywhere?

I don’t think option 3 is a panacea but it sure is disruptive in terms of commute times.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the option 3. It tries to bring much needed diversity in many schools.

WJ becomes 30%, Woodward 50% and Whitman 20% FARMS?

MCPS needs to calculate bus time and see if it's practical. As long as bus rude is not longer than 20-25 minutes, it will work. Longer than than is impractical.

What is current FARMS in WJ?

19.8 according to their charts. WJ is a wonderful, diverse school with many high performing students. That’s why it’s so overcrowded, unfortunately

30% FARMS means FARMS rate goes up by 50% in WJ.

20% was pretty good.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the option 3. It tries to bring much needed diversity in many schools.

WJ becomes 30%, Woodward 50% and Whitman 20% FARMS?

MCPS needs to calculate bus time and see if it's practical. As long as bus rude is not longer than 20-25 minutes, it will work. Longer than than is impractical.

To pp above though, no it doesn't. These are theoretical numbers that assume current students stay in the system. Under option 3. They wont.

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If Option 3 had prioritized balancing demographics over everything else it would look a lot crazier than it currently does.

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Anonymous wrote:If Option 3 had prioritized balancing demographics over everything else it would look a lot crazier than it currently does.

….thats what Flo Analytics says it does, so feel free to take it up with them.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the option 3. It tries to bring much needed diversity in many schools.

WJ becomes 30%, Woodward 50% and Whitman 20% FARMS?

MCPS needs to calculate bus time and see if it's practical. As long as bus rude is not longer than 20-25 minutes, it will work. Longer than than is impractical.

To pp above though, no it doesn't. These are theoretical numbers that assume current students stay in the system. Under option 3. They wont.

I doubt that real numbers will be too much higher than theoretical numbers.

May be 30% FARMS at WJ will become 35% FARMS due to kids moving to private.