Lebanon / Israel

[Anonymous]

What is Israel’s end game here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is Israel’s end game here?

Draw in Iran to start a greater ME war thinking that Daddy Warbucks will continue to pay for other people's problems without proper Congressional oversight. The longer you can maintain a false war, the longer you can avoid facing the Hague.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Israel trying to start world war 3 and how does the US extricate itself from its aggression? They are unhinged. I am not interested in supporting and funding Israel’s attacks.

Bibi wants to avoid jail and Trump to win.

Yeah, this is what’s terrifying. Steven Schwarzman, Blackstone CEO, who was the highest earning CEO in the US a couple years ago at $258m is supporting Trump specifically due to rising antisemitism. His daughter Zibby Owens, who is a big deal in publishing, just released a new book on being Jewish and has never once said anything in sympathy of innocent Palestinians, and insists every protester is a terrorist. Several contributors of the book have attacked other writers on social media for not openly supporting Israel.

With Schwarzman and Adelson and AIPAC funding Trump it could be the thing that pushes him over the finish line. Americans be damned. Our issues like abortion, the environment, social services, take second place, so long as Bibi stays in power and we continue to find his deranged mission.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is Israel’s end game here?

The stated goal is the return of the hostages, and the ability for all Israelis to safely return to their homes, particularly those in northern Israel near Lebanon.

[Anonymous]

Israel is doing an outstanding job of wiping out the terrorists and is showing us what we should have done to the Taliban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel is doing an outstanding job of wiping out the terrorists and is showing us what we should have done to the Taliban.

You meaning invading countries and killing civilians? Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization. It was created when Israel invaded Lebanon and occupied it for 22 years.

Israel has attacked Lebanon and will soon invade. Clearly the world needs to slap down Israel with sanctions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the Washington Post…unfortunately the headline selectively reads the strike was on a Hezbollah leader but it’s clear with 4-6 buildings destroyed this is not selective targeting.

Since it began Monday with a ferocious aerial barrage, Israel’s military operation against Hezbollah has killed more than 700 people in Lebanon and set off a spiraling humanitarian crisis.

It was too early to tell the real toll of Friday’s strike, said Firass Abiad, Lebanon’s health minister. Four to six buildings were “completely demolished,” he added. “We expect fatalities to be high if there were people inside their apartments.

The civilian death toll would be minimal if Hezbollah was not intentionally planting their weapons and leadership into civilian areas.

Is it justifiable to kill hundreds of civilians to decimate the leadership of the Hezbollah? Is it justifiable to potentially kill hundreds of civilians to save tens of thousands?

"War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it."

Be thankful you are not in a position where you must make these decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is Israel’s end game here?

Not sure what you mean by “here,” but part of the game meant ending Hezbollah’s command and control center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The strike obliterated Hezbollah's command and control center.

No the Israelis said that. The “strike” obliterated a residential apartment building. There is no proof or independent assessment that shows Hezbollah was there. It was most likely a healthcare facility or a doctor’s residence.

Israel has a long history of covering its war crimes this way.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the Washington Post…unfortunately the headline selectively reads the strike was on a Hezbollah leader but it’s clear with 4-6 buildings destroyed this is not selective targeting.

Since it began Monday with a ferocious aerial barrage, Israel’s military operation against Hezbollah has killed more than 700 people in Lebanon and set off a spiraling humanitarian crisis.

It was too early to tell the real toll of Friday’s strike, said Firass Abiad, Lebanon’s health minister. Four to six buildings were “completely demolished,” he added. “We expect fatalities to be high if there were people inside their apartments.

Do you know who's really thrilled about the apparent death of Hezbollah's leadership?

The vast majority of Lebanese - Sunni, Maronite Christian, even most Shi'a. No group has done more damage to Lebanon than Hezbollah. Almost the entire Arab world is absolutely delighted by Israel's targeted actions against Hezbollah - from exploding pagers and walkie talkies to the destruction of their underground hq. The Arab world and most of Lebanon is celebrating today.

There were a lot of Iraqis happy about the downfall of Saddam. We know what that led to.

I don't know what will happen in Lebanon. Ever heard the expression "The devil you know is better than the devil you don't"?

Just to be clear, I sure as hell hope this doesn't open a pandoras box of destruction.

I believe it will. Lebanon is a small country. The bombing has obliterated the country. There is no one there without a friend or family member who has lost their life, their home, or had their business blown to rubble. You think they have home owners insurance? Business insurance? No.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like the IDF is conducting successful follow up strikes against mid-level commanders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Israel trying to start world war 3 and how does the US extricate itself from its aggression? They are unhinged. I am not interested in supporting and funding Israel’s attacks.

Bibi wants to avoid jail and Trump to win.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the Washington Post…unfortunately the headline selectively reads the strike was on a Hezbollah leader but it’s clear with 4-6 buildings destroyed this is not selective targeting.

Since it began Monday with a ferocious aerial barrage, Israel’s military operation against Hezbollah has killed more than 700 people in Lebanon and set off a spiraling humanitarian crisis.

It was too early to tell the real toll of Friday’s strike, said Firass Abiad, Lebanon’s health minister. Four to six buildings were “completely demolished,” he added. “We expect fatalities to be high if there were people inside their apartments.

The civilian death toll would be minimal if Hezbollah was not intentionally planting their weapons and leadership into civilian areas.

Is it justifiable to kill hundreds of civilians to decimate the leadership of the Hezbollah? Is it justifiable to potentially kill hundreds of civilians to save tens of thousands?

"War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it."

Be thankful you are not in a position where you must make these decisions.

"Is it justifiable to potentially kill hundreds of civilians to save tens of thousands?
"War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it."
Be thankful you are not in a position where you must make these decisions."

1) Tell me how Israel's killings are saving "tens of thousands". No Israelis are at risk of imminent threat from Hezbollah. Yes, Hezbollah wants to see Israel disappear and has fired rockets into the north of Israel, but (a) Israel has evacuated the residents living there to safe ground and (b) Hezbollah has said they will stop if Israel stops killing in Gaza.

2) If you are all good with "War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it." then you must have sympathy for the actions Hamas took on 10/7 (they too viewed this as war). I don't have any sympathy or support for Hamas.

3) Be thankful I am not in a decision that I MUST make these decisions. There is no MUST here. No one is making Israel make the military decisions they are making. In fact, the US and many other countries are telling them not to.

There is no imminent threat to Israel.

There is actual and live threat, killing, maiming, terrorizing Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank.

[Anonymous]

Hezbollah started this on October 8 with its rocket barrages following since then. Israel has fought back. And Israel haters out there seem mad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the Washington Post…unfortunately the headline selectively reads the strike was on a Hezbollah leader but it’s clear with 4-6 buildings destroyed this is not selective targeting.

Since it began Monday with a ferocious aerial barrage, Israel’s military operation against Hezbollah has killed more than 700 people in Lebanon and set off a spiraling humanitarian crisis.

It was too early to tell the real toll of Friday’s strike, said Firass Abiad, Lebanon’s health minister. Four to six buildings were “completely demolished,” he added. “We expect fatalities to be high if there were people inside their apartments.

The civilian death toll would be minimal if Hezbollah was not intentionally planting their weapons and leadership into civilian areas.

Is it justifiable to kill hundreds of civilians to decimate the leadership of the Hezbollah? Is it justifiable to potentially kill hundreds of civilians to save tens of thousands?

"War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it."

Be thankful you are not in a position where you must make these decisions.

"Is it justifiable to potentially kill hundreds of civilians to save tens of thousands?
"War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it."
Be thankful you are not in a position where you must make these decisions."

1) Tell me how Israel's killings are saving "tens of thousands". No Israelis are at risk of imminent threat from Hezbollah. Yes, Hezbollah wants to see Israel disappear and has fired rockets into the north of Israel, but (a) Israel has evacuated the residents living there to safe ground and (b) Hezbollah has said they will stop if Israel stops killing in Gaza.

2) If you are all good with "War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it." then you must have sympathy for the actions Hamas took on 10/7 (they too viewed this as war). I don't have any sympathy or support for Hamas.

3) Be thankful I am not in a decision that I MUST make these decisions. There is no MUST here. No one is making Israel make the military decisions they are making. In fact, the US and many other countries are telling them not to.

There is no imminent threat to Israel.

There is actual and live threat, killing, maiming, terrorizing Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank.

For sure there is an imminent threat to Israel. Hezbollah has been bombing the north of Israel - this never seems to make the news, but it's unacceptable to live with a chance of a rocket landing on your home at any given time, and this is what Israel is seeking to end. I lived in Israel briefly in 2021 and it was the same with Gaza - the first night of a conflict then, there were 3000 rockets sent from Gaza into Israel. Israel responded (afterwards) and the international headlines were then just all about Israel bombing Gaza. Yes, Israel has the Iron Dome, but it doesn't catch 100 percent of the rockets, and it's very expensive ($50-100k per rocket disabled).