Valor

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Anonymous wrote:The "Team designated color" is the most important thing. Valor assigns its best coaches to the higher teams (look at the teams they still haven't found coaches for). A spot on a lower team means practicing with weaker players all year and a weaker coach.

This is literally the business plan of every single travel club, though. Why would you ever put your best coaches at the bottom? Now, the clubs that hire people who have no coaching licenses or business coaching, I 100% agree that's messed up. Most shouldn't even be coaching children with his bag their attitudes are, too. However, I don't know why parents think they're entitled to B licensed level coaches for a bottom team, discussion with hundreds of travel teams in the DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2011 girls have two very good coaches. Both have great track records. Both coach HS soccer. They sent out information. DD is on the second team and staying there. Looking forward to seeing how they do.

So they sent out offers for the first two teams already? The second tryout was last night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The "Team designated color" is the most important thing. Valor assigns its best coaches to the higher teams (look at the teams they still haven't found coaches for). A spot on a lower team means practicing with weaker players all year and a weaker coach.

This is literally the business plan of every single travel club, though. Why would you ever put your best coaches at the bottom? Now, the clubs that hire people who have no coaching licenses or business coaching, I 100% agree that's messed up. Most shouldn't even be coaching children with his bag their attitudes are, too. However, I don't know why parents think they're entitled to B licensed level coaches for a bottom team, discussion with hundreds of travel teams in the DMV.

If they are charging the same price to play for the lowest teams, then the same caliber coaches should be hired. Why not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The 2011 girls have two very good coaches. Both have great track records. Both coach HS soccer. They sent out information. DD is on the second team and staying there. Looking forward to seeing how they do.

So they sent out offers for the first two teams already? The second tryout was last night.

That was fast.

[Anonymous]

The Valor 2011G coaches are very much the same caliber I thought. Both with lots of experience at the club level and both with state championships coaching high school teams.
As to offers being sent, I don't know anything besides my own child. I try to avoid drama (laughable in travel soccer I know).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The "Team designated color" is the most important thing. Valor assigns its best coaches to the higher teams (look at the teams they still haven't found coaches for). A spot on a lower team means practicing with weaker players all year and a weaker coach.

This is literally the business plan of every single travel club, though. Why would you ever put your best coaches at the bottom? Now, the clubs that hire people who have no coaching licenses or business coaching, I 100% agree that's messed up. Most shouldn't even be coaching children with his bag their attitudes are, too. However, I don't know why parents think they're entitled to B licensed level coaches for a bottom team, discussion with hundreds of travel teams in the DMV.

I somewhat disagree. At a minimum, regardless of the coaching staff, the new coaches (no experience) should reflect the lead coach's ability and leadership. Copy and paste? I would imagine there a curriculum or roadmap to success the lead coach institutes for his age group that follows. This is typical of Valor.

We are not winging every day, are we? That would be a terrible way to approach a season.

The parents' resources $$$ are not different in color, so why should the service be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Valor 2011G coaches are very much the same caliber I thought. Both with lots of experience at the club level and both with state championships coaching high school teams.
As to offers being sent, I don't know anything besides my own child. I try to avoid drama (laughable in travel soccer I know).

So your child received an offer for the second team this morning? That's interesting. They send the first and second team offers out simultaneously?

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Do they pay the more experienced, first team coaches more?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone go to 2012 boys tryouts? What's the opinion of the club in this age group? I have a 2012 boy who was on the lower field of play, we're coming from CYA rec.

My understanding is most of the current 2012 Silver team (the lowest team) was a CYA rec team (maybe a CYA all star team) and the coach was the rec coach. I have also heard that team is actually better than the 3rd team but that was from a silver parent. I guess that 4th team is now the black team. So they have four teams, it should be easy to get a spot but not sure a spot you want.

Yes - the talent gap between the top 2 teams and the bottom 2 teams is pretty wide. The silver team (4th team/future black team) is I would say almost equal to the 3rd team but a long way from the 2nd team and longer way to the top team (current gold/next year ecnl-r). The fourth team plays in the lowest NCSL division but has a chance at promotion. Someone posted a link to the NCSL schedule/results in the last few pages of this thread.

Pretty typical. The tryouts at this club are a joke. They already know who is going to be on the number 1 and 2 teams.

-Lots of nepotism. Good luck folks if you haven't already been preparing to make a move.

-If Valor is going to make more than 3 teams, your changing age groups, it's likely that 4th or 5th teams will never be in a higher level of play or division.
-I'd ask about how well their 4th and 5th teams did. Lots of smoke and mirrors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The "Team designated color" is the most important thing. Valor assigns its best coaches to the higher teams (look at the teams they still haven't found coaches for). A spot on a lower team means practicing with weaker players all year and a weaker coach.

This is literally the business plan of every single travel club, though. Why would you ever put your best coaches at the bottom? Now, the clubs that hire people who have no coaching licenses or business coaching, I 100% agree that's messed up. Most shouldn't even be coaching children with his bag their attitudes are, too. However, I don't know why parents think they're entitled to B licensed level coaches for a bottom team, discussion with hundreds of travel teams in the DMV.

If they are charging the same price to play for the lowest teams, then the same caliber coaches should be hired. Why not?

Agree, but you will not see that here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How long have people waited to accept or decline their offers? We still have tryouts for other clubs this week and will likely hear back next monday or tuesday.

I seen some parents receveid there offers the week off, a month later and even let kids on halfway through the season. If you have the funding, don't worry you'll get on a team.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone go to 2012 boys tryouts? What's the opinion of the club in this age group? I have a 2012 boy who was on the lower field of play, we're coming from CYA rec.

My understanding is most of the current 2012 Silver team (the lowest team) was a CYA rec team (maybe a CYA all star team) and the coach was the rec coach. I have also heard that team is actually better than the 3rd team but that was from a silver parent. I guess that 4th team is now the black team. So they have four teams, it should be easy to get a spot but not sure a spot you want.

Yes - the talent gap between the top 2 teams and the bottom 2 teams is pretty wide. The silver team (4th team/future black team) is I would say almost equal to the 3rd team but a long way from the 2nd team and longer way to the top team (current gold/next year ecnl-r). The fourth team plays in the lowest NCSL division but has a chance at promotion. Someone posted a link to the NCSL schedule/results in the last few pages of this thread.

Pretty typical. The tryouts at this club are a joke. They already know who is going to be on the number 1 and 2 teams.

-Lots of nepotism. Good luck folks if you haven't already been preparing to make a move.

-If Valor is going to make more than 3 teams, your changing age groups, it's likely that 4th or 5th teams will never be in a higher level of play or division.
-I'd ask about how well their 4th and 5th teams did. Lots of smoke and mirrors.

No one expects the 4th and 5th level teams to do well. I mean, come on. They are developmental.

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Anonymous wrote:Beware of valor trying to create 4th and 5th teams this year. They will most likely be in the lowest division.

Worry about their top 'pre ecnl' teams. Bottom team players from other clubs are getting offers from Valor gold teams.

Which age group? U11 or U12? Boys or girls?

Also gold is second team starting next year so if the offer says gold team it is not pre ECNL.

Sounds like an attempt to confuse their customers.

Wow the vitriol in this group is strong. ECNL made the naming change requirement, it was not Valor or any other clubs decision.

The vitriol I think its warranted due to the number of posts in this group. In any case Gold is not gold anymore. Its like a white team or number 2 team in the club.

I think there is some circular logic going on here. A few people are posting prolifically, then using the number of negative posts as evidence that Valor is terrible. Not saying there aren’t some issues, but not being able to determine the number of unique posters makes it hard to understand the magnitude. Someone keeps bringing up Valor on multiple threads, which suggests there’s a bit of an obsession.

Tough to determine but given all the communication seems to be mostly uniform its messaging. I guess it would help if they spelled out all the age groups more often.

[Anonymous]

Bro, no one is obessed with Valor its clearly one disgrunteled employee or parent

[Anonymous]

Offers went out the night of the first tryout for my child’s age group, at least for some kids on the first team. Not sure how many. Second team usually gets offers pretty quickly too, if they know they want to keep your kid there and not move them up or down. A kid on the bubble will have to wait longer to hear because it will depend on whether someone else they wanted more for that team is accepting the offer or not.