why do parents sign up for a giant ECNL roster (Mclean 2006 has 28 players)

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How much money does a kid get in scholarship? It it worth it?

check the data ... https://scholarshipstats.com/soccer

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I heard the main reason is that moms dig the coach’s man-bun.

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Soccer life is too short to train and not play.

But they do play. They practice with the ECNL team and play as a team in other leagues. Plus you have to look at their college placement. Clearly the best in the area.

If you are a bench player at another club you never play and you are not part of the team.

Historic college placement reflects a time period when McLean, FCV, Bethesda and MD United were the only ECNL teams in the area, with no DA, GA or similar competitive leagues. That is still true for the 2004 teams. It was not until the 2005 teams and younger that the talent began to split and be diluted by the other DA teams and expanded ECNL teams. I think we will all see significantly different college commitment lists for 2005, 2006, 2007 and younger teams, compared to the commitments that McLean, FCV and the 2 MD clubs used to have.

It’s already happening at the 04/03 age. McLean has announced only 2 or 3 commits for their seniors.

I am not familiar with the number of recruits committed from local clubs so far this year, but my understanding is that this year is an anomaly given the covid additional year of eligibility. Colleges are drastically reducing their recruiting class because they just don’t have the roster space.

This... Coaches I've heard talk so far have said that this may be the case for a few years, affecting 2023, 2024, and potentially even 2025, because they have no idea how many kids will use the 5th year of eligibility that the NCAA gifted them because of Covid... but it is especially affecting the 22's right now. (Also, Mclean has announced like 4 commits so far, which seems pretty on par with every other club in the area for that class)

any 22's getting athletic money were done well before now. rest of 22's are looking for roster spots at this point. don't forget the transfer portal on top of the gifted year of covid eligibility. i would think many coaches will be looking for 4 or less in the 23 class for the most part.

How much money does a kid get in scholarship? It it worth it?

Getting a large percent of athletic scholarship money in not easy unless you are a top 2 recruit in your recruiting class. Most parents are full of it when they talk about "scholarship" and they exaggerate. Good players who get recruited and offered get some athletic money and if they have good grades stack some academic money on top. The rest of the folks are really chasing a few roster spots and hoping it will help them get into whatever school they are hoping for...check out some of the college rosters this fall...they have bloated to 30+. Add in the transfer portal and over seas kids and it's flat out not easy.

Let me give you a tip. The kids that get money are the kids who are the top pick for the specific program that is recruiting them. Do yourself a favor and never forget that. Most kids are not good enough to get substantial athletic scholarships at top programs. So if they want the money, they have to drop down and be top recruits for mid-tier programs. It’s that simple.

Most 2023’s that have committed or receiving offers are the 70-100 percent athletic scholarship kids.

Let me give you a tip. You obviously don't have a kid at a "top program". You obviously don't have a kid at a "mid-tier program". It's simple make a cup of tea and hit the sack. Most of the 23's ain't committed. grab a clue.

Loud and wrong because you’re reading comprehension is sub par.

Here’s a tip. Read - Comprehend - Comment

I said “most 2023 that HAVE committed”. You understand that this is different than “most 2023s have committed.”

I say again….the 2023’s that HAVE committed are receiving substantial athletic money. The 2023’s that are entertaining offers are set to receive substantial athletic money.

The early offers go to the top recruits for the program. The top recruits get the money. Understand meatball?

I think you should have bolded THAT, not HAVE. Anyhow, do you have any solid evidence to back up your claims? Are you a college coach or work at a college? Do you have kids that received a soccer scholarships? Tell us how you’re qualified to make these statements. Thanks.

Here’s my solid evidence. If a 2023 is already committed it’s because they were the programs top recruit. So ask yourself, do you think a programs top recruit got substantial money?

Your solid evidence is to pose a question that you think you have the answer to? Interesting. Again, what qualifies you and where are your facts? Yeah ... that's right, didn't think you had any ...

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Anonymous wrote:This ^^^

Soccer life is too short to train and not play.

But they do play. They practice with the ECNL team and play as a team in other leagues. Plus you have to look at their college placement. Clearly the best in the area.

If you are a bench player at another club you never play and you are not part of the team.

Historic college placement reflects a time period when McLean, FCV, Bethesda and MD United were the only ECNL teams in the area, with no DA, GA or similar competitive leagues. That is still true for the 2004 teams. It was not until the 2005 teams and younger that the talent began to split and be diluted by the other DA teams and expanded ECNL teams. I think we will all see significantly different college commitment lists for 2005, 2006, 2007 and younger teams, compared to the commitments that McLean, FCV and the 2 MD clubs used to have.

It’s already happening at the 04/03 age. McLean has announced only 2 or 3 commits for their seniors.

I am not familiar with the number of recruits committed from local clubs so far this year, but my understanding is that this year is an anomaly given the covid additional year of eligibility. Colleges are drastically reducing their recruiting class because they just don’t have the roster space.

This... Coaches I've heard talk so far have said that this may be the case for a few years, affecting 2023, 2024, and potentially even 2025, because they have no idea how many kids will use the 5th year of eligibility that the NCAA gifted them because of Covid... but it is especially affecting the 22's right now. (Also, Mclean has announced like 4 commits so far, which seems pretty on par with every other club in the area for that class)

any 22's getting athletic money were done well before now. rest of 22's are looking for roster spots at this point. don't forget the transfer portal on top of the gifted year of covid eligibility. i would think many coaches will be looking for 4 or less in the 23 class for the most part.

How much money does a kid get in scholarship? It it worth it?

Getting a large percent of athletic scholarship money in not easy unless you are a top 2 recruit in your recruiting class. Most parents are full of it when they talk about "scholarship" and they exaggerate. Good players who get recruited and offered get some athletic money and if they have good grades stack some academic money on top. The rest of the folks are really chasing a few roster spots and hoping it will help them get into whatever school they are hoping for...check out some of the college rosters this fall...they have bloated to 30+. Add in the transfer portal and over seas kids and it's flat out not easy.

Let me give you a tip. The kids that get money are the kids who are the top pick for the specific program that is recruiting them. Do yourself a favor and never forget that. Most kids are not good enough to get substantial athletic scholarships at top programs. So if they want the money, they have to drop down and be top recruits for mid-tier programs. It’s that simple.

Most 2023’s that have committed or receiving offers are the 70-100 percent athletic scholarship kids.

Let me give you a tip. You obviously don't have a kid at a "top program". You obviously don't have a kid at a "mid-tier program". It's simple make a cup of tea and hit the sack. Most of the 23's ain't committed. grab a clue.

Loud and wrong because you’re reading comprehension is sub par.

Here’s a tip. Read - Comprehend - Comment

I said “most 2023 that HAVE committed”. You understand that this is different than “most 2023s have committed.”

I say again….the 2023’s that HAVE committed are receiving substantial athletic money. The 2023’s that are entertaining offers are set to receive substantial athletic money.

The early offers go to the top recruits for the program. The top recruits get the money. Understand meatball?

I think you should have bolded THAT, not HAVE. Anyhow, do you have any solid evidence to back up your claims? Are you a college coach or work at a college? Do you have kids that received a soccer scholarships? Tell us how you’re qualified to make these statements. Thanks.

Here’s my solid evidence. If a 2023 is already committed it’s because they were the programs top recruit. So ask yourself, do you think a programs top recruit got substantial money?

Your solid evidence is to pose a question that you think you have the answer to? Interesting. Again, what qualifies you and where are your facts? Yeah ... that's right, didn't think you had any ...

What resume do you have to say I’m wrong?

See how the game is played?

Do you have a kid playing on scholarship? Have you gone through the process from beginning to end?

My answer is, Yes. What’s yours? Let me answer: No

You lack understanding of the basics which means there is no way you can remotely comprehend today’s landscape.

I recently looked at a roster that had 6 grad students that transferred in, 7 5th year seniors who had been redshirted, 3 international players, and a couple of other transfers.

Do you have any idea what that does to a future recruiting class? Money and spots are not available like before.

I’m not an expert. I don’t pretend to be one. Listen - Don’t listen - Doesn’t matter

Do your own homework 📚

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jmu womens soccer roster has 20 redshirts.

20!

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“ jmu womens soccer roster has 20 redshirts.“ = game news

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...Fake news!

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Anonymous wrote:...Fake news!

So what does the R- means? (R-FR)

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https://jmusports.com/sports/womens-soccer/roster

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Every player who was on the team last year is technically a redshirt bc the NCAA didn’t count last year as a year of lost eligibility for any player due to Covid. All those “R-“ on the JMU roster are not players that red-shirted, that is just how JMU is choosing to list them on the roster. Every college in the country would have 20 Red shirts if they chose to display their school year that way.

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Crickets? Hello?

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Anonymous wrote:Every player who was on the team last year is technically a redshirt bc the NCAA didn’t count last year as a year of lost eligibility for any player due to Covid. All those “R-“ on the JMU roster are not players that red-shirted, that is just how JMU is choosing to list them on the roster. Every college in the country would have 20 Red shirts if they chose to display their school year that way.

So why isn’t everyone listed as redshirt. And does it matter? The point is the same

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If your point was that Covid created a ton of potential redshirts that could stay an extra year, then yes that is true. Seemed like you were pointing out that JMU had an unusually large number of redshirts compared to other schools and was just saying that wasn’t really the case.

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Anonymous wrote:If your point was that Covid created a ton of potential redshirts that could stay an extra year, then yes that is true. Seemed like you were pointing out that JMU had an unusually large number of redshirts compared to other schools and was just saying that wasn’t really the case.

My point from the beginning was limited roster spots and money for incoming freshman.

More so than ever

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Agree not fake news then, I misunderstood your point