In DC: "White Parents Horrified by George Floyd Video Still Go to Great Lengths..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Wow. Do you think the majority of people who live in the poorest IB school catchment areas can afford to live in JKLM-land? In any kind of or size of housing? Do you think they have that kind of mobility? Or the community support to provide child-care (because they aren't hiring au pairs)? The mere fact that you see this merely as an issue of "restricting your housing search by geography " necessarily disqualifies you from meaningful participation in this discussion. This is not about your friends from grad school who chose to buy a $900,000 house in Petworth instead of a tiny place in Friendship Heights and are now complaining about their school options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Wow. Do you think the majority of people who live in the poorest IB school catchment areas can afford to live in JKLM-land? In any kind of or size of housing? Do you think they have that kind of mobility? Or the community support to provide child-care (because they aren't hiring au pairs)? The mere fact that you see this merely as an issue of "restricting your housing search by geography " necessarily disqualifies you from meaningful participation in this discussion. This is not about your friends from grad school who chose to buy a $900,000 house in Petworth instead of a tiny place in Friendship Heights and are now complaining about their school options.

You can live in JKLM/Eaton/OA for $800/mo. Not many families would like the options at that price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Wow. Do you think the majority of people who live in the poorest IB school catchment areas can afford to live in JKLM-land? In any kind of or size of housing? Do you think they have that kind of mobility? Or the community support to provide child-care (because they aren't hiring au pairs)? The mere fact that you see this merely as an issue of "restricting your housing search by geography " necessarily disqualifies you from meaningful participation in this discussion. This is not about your friends from grad school who chose to buy a $900,000 house in Petworth instead of a tiny place in Friendship Heights and are now complaining about their school options.

You can live in JKLM/Eaton/OA for $800/mo. Not many families would like the options at that price.

PP again — but the question here isn’t whether everybody can afford all areas of town.

The question is whether it’s racist to go to Wilson vs. Latin.

If the idea is someone is racist because their income is higher than someone else’s, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Wow. Do you think the majority of people who live in the poorest IB school catchment areas can afford to live in JKLM-land? In any kind of or size of housing? Do you think they have that kind of mobility? Or the community support to provide child-care (because they aren't hiring au pairs)? The mere fact that you see this merely as an issue of "restricting your housing search by geography " necessarily disqualifies you from meaningful participation in this discussion. This is not about your friends from grad school who chose to buy a $900,000 house in Petworth instead of a tiny place in Friendship Heights and are now complaining about their school options.

You can live in JKLM/Eaton/OA for $800/mo. Not many families would like the options at that price.

PP again — but the question here isn’t whether everybody can afford all areas of town.

The question is whether it’s racist to go to Wilson vs. Latin.

If the idea is someone is racist because their income is higher than someone else’s, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

Here is one observation: while wilson has diverse demographics, many neighborhoods that feed to Wilson are not diverse.

I'm not sure what the breakdown is of where Latin kids are coming from, but is it possible that they live in more integrated neighborhoods? And thus the white kids there are not living in an overwhelming white neighborhood and it all feels less racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Wow. Do you think the majority of people who live in the poorest IB school catchment areas can afford to live in JKLM-land? In any kind of or size of housing? Do you think they have that kind of mobility? Or the community support to provide child-care (because they aren't hiring au pairs)? The mere fact that you see this merely as an issue of "restricting your housing search by geography " necessarily disqualifies you from meaningful participation in this discussion. This is not about your friends from grad school who chose to buy a $900,000 house in Petworth instead of a tiny place in Friendship Heights and are now complaining about their school options.

You can live in JKLM/Eaton/OA for $800/mo. Not many families would like the options at that price.

PP again — but the question here isn’t whether everybody can afford all areas of town.

The question is whether it’s racist to go to Wilson vs. Latin.

If the idea is someone is racist because their income is higher than someone else’s, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

Here is one observation: while wilson has diverse demographics, many neighborhoods that feed to Wilson are not diverse.

I'm not sure what the breakdown is of where Latin kids are coming from, but is it possible that they live in more integrated neighborhoods? And thus the white kids there are not living in an overwhelming white neighborhood and it all feels less racist.

DCPS is 10% white. Charter selection should be done by lottery. What is your reason for why BASIS has a larger white population than DCPS and even larger than IB for Wilson? I’d really like to know how it’s not evidence of systemic racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the complaint that white kids are going to Wilson, a perceived better school, at the expense of Black students?

I think everyone, white and Black, want the best education possible for their kids.

I didn't realize that in order to be morally repulsed by racist state murder meant that you should not care about your child's education.

If you aren’t personally underwriting a URM student’s tuition at Sidwell while sending your child to Eastern, you are part of the problem

Nope. Conor says good progressives (i.e. not racist progressives) support charters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/20/theres-real-progressive-case-supporting-charter-schools/

LOL. Charter schools are totally racist.
- Undermines majority Black union with middle class jobs
- Allows schools to expel students who have "behavior" problems and send back to public who become worse due to adverse selection
- Does not hold schools to same educational standards
- Does not provide transportation (except transit cards) so does not resolve geographic proximity and racial segregation issues (both Latin and Basis have same % white as Wilson)

I'm sorry Conor spells it out here again. Option 1 = racist. Option 2 = progressive.

This guy is just incredible to me. So full of it. I takes a lot of chutzpah to make this case that white people being able to work systems to their advantage is not racist. I checked his employer and it’s a think tank that is pro-charter, so he’s just a guy that’s talking his own book.

It’s gross that he is trying to capitalize on and appropriate anti-racist themes to support charters. Instead of being anti-racist he has instead proven himself to be racist.

[Anonymous]

PP above is not wrong. That publication is very pro-charter pro-choice and evidence based literature suggests that charters segregate more than they de-segregate. I would guess that the author wants to be a good person but is justifying personal decisions as moral ones when they were probably just serving him and his family well.

His twitter thread promoting the article is extraordinarily self congratulatory and lacking any true self reflection. It comes off as someone just using anti-racist tropes to further their own privilege, ironically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the complaint that white kids are going to Wilson, a perceived better school, at the expense of Black students?

I think everyone, white and Black, want the best education possible for their kids.

I didn't realize that in order to be morally repulsed by racist state murder meant that you should not care about your child's education.

If you aren’t personally underwriting a URM student’s tuition at Sidwell while sending your child to Eastern, you are part of the problem

Nope. Conor says good progressives (i.e. not racist progressives) support charters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/20/theres-real-progressive-case-supporting-charter-schools/

LOL. Charter schools are totally racist.
- Undermines majority Black union with middle class jobs
- Allows schools to expel students who have "behavior" problems and send back to public who become worse due to adverse selection
- Does not hold schools to same educational standards
- Does not provide transportation (except transit cards) so does not resolve geographic proximity and racial segregation issues (both Latin and Basis have same % white as Wilson)

I'm sorry Conor spells it out here again. Option 1 = racist. Option 2 = progressive.

This guy is just incredible to me. So full of it. I takes a lot of chutzpah to make this case that white people being able to work systems to their advantage is not racist. I checked his employer and it’s a think tank that is pro-charter, so he’s just a guy that’s talking his own book.

It’s gross that he is trying to capitalize on and appropriate anti-racist themes to support charters. Instead of being anti-racist he has instead proven himself to be racist.

Is this a parody? I can't tell if this person is making fun of young people who think they are battling racism, or if this is actually sincere?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the complaint that white kids are going to Wilson, a perceived better school, at the expense of Black students?

I think everyone, white and Black, want the best education possible for their kids.

I didn't realize that in order to be morally repulsed by racist state murder meant that you should not care about your child's education.

If you aren’t personally underwriting a URM student’s tuition at Sidwell while sending your child to Eastern, you are part of the problem

Nope. Conor says good progressives (i.e. not racist progressives) support charters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/20/theres-real-progressive-case-supporting-charter-schools/

LOL. Charter schools are totally racist.
- Undermines majority Black union with middle class jobs
- Allows schools to expel students who have "behavior" problems and send back to public who become worse due to adverse selection
- Does not hold schools to same educational standards
- Does not provide transportation (except transit cards) so does not resolve geographic proximity and racial segregation issues (both Latin and Basis have same % white as Wilson)

I'm sorry Conor spells it out here again. Option 1 = racist. Option 2 = progressive.

This guy is just incredible to me. So full of it. I takes a lot of chutzpah to make this case that white people being able to work systems to their advantage is not racist. I checked his employer and it’s a think tank that is pro-charter, so he’s just a guy that’s talking his own book.

It’s gross that he is trying to capitalize on and appropriate anti-racist themes to support charters. Instead of being anti-racist he has instead proven himself to be racist.

Have you seen the posts where he pats himself on the back for parenting his three kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the complaint that white kids are going to Wilson, a perceived better school, at the expense of Black students?

I think everyone, white and Black, want the best education possible for their kids.

I didn't realize that in order to be morally repulsed by racist state murder meant that you should not care about your child's education.

If you aren’t personally underwriting a URM student’s tuition at Sidwell while sending your child to Eastern, you are part of the problem

Nope. Conor says good progressives (i.e. not racist progressives) support charters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/20/theres-real-progressive-case-supporting-charter-schools/

LOL. Charter schools are totally racist.
- Undermines majority Black union with middle class jobs
- Allows schools to expel students who have "behavior" problems and send back to public who become worse due to adverse selection
- Does not hold schools to same educational standards
- Does not provide transportation (except transit cards) so does not resolve geographic proximity and racial segregation issues (both Latin and Basis have same % white as Wilson)

I'm sorry Conor spells it out here again. Option 1 = racist. Option 2 = progressive.

This guy is just incredible to me. So full of it. I takes a lot of chutzpah to make this case that white people being able to work systems to their advantage is not racist. I checked his employer and it’s a think tank that is pro-charter, so he’s just a guy that’s talking his own book.

It’s gross that he is trying to capitalize on and appropriate anti-racist themes to support charters. Instead of being anti-racist he has instead proven himself to be racist.

Have you seen the posts where he pats himself on the back for parenting his three kids?

And by posts, I mean tweets. There are so many gems on his Twitter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Wow. Do you think the majority of people who live in the poorest IB school catchment areas can afford to live in JKLM-land? In any kind of or size of housing? Do you think they have that kind of mobility? Or the community support to provide child-care (because they aren't hiring au pairs)? The mere fact that you see this merely as an issue of "restricting your housing search by geography " necessarily disqualifies you from meaningful participation in this discussion. This is not about your friends from grad school who chose to buy a $900,000 house in Petworth instead of a tiny place in Friendship Heights and are now complaining about their school options.

You can live in JKLM/Eaton/OA for $800/mo. Not many families would like the options at that price.

PP again — but the question here isn’t whether everybody can afford all areas of town.

The question is whether it’s racist to go to Wilson vs. Latin.

If the idea is someone is racist because their income is higher than someone else’s, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

But the Ward 3 group is trying to restrict access constantly (suggesting doing away with OOB and SES for example).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the complaint that white kids are going to Wilson, a perceived better school, at the expense of Black students?

I think everyone, white and Black, want the best education possible for their kids.

I didn't realize that in order to be morally repulsed by racist state murder meant that you should not care about your child's education.

If you aren’t personally underwriting a URM student’s tuition at Sidwell while sending your child to Eastern, you are part of the problem

Nope. Conor says good progressives (i.e. not racist progressives) support charters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/20/theres-real-progressive-case-supporting-charter-schools/

LOL. Charter schools are totally racist.
- Undermines majority Black union with middle class jobs
- Allows schools to expel students who have "behavior" problems and send back to public who become worse due to adverse selection
- Does not hold schools to same educational standards
- Does not provide transportation (except transit cards) so does not resolve geographic proximity and racial segregation issues (both Latin and Basis have same % white as Wilson)

I'm sorry Conor spells it out here again. Option 1 = racist. Option 2 = progressive.

This guy is just incredible to me. So full of it. I takes a lot of chutzpah to make this case that white people being able to work systems to their advantage is not racist. I checked his employer and it’s a think tank that is pro-charter, so he’s just a guy that’s talking his own book.

It’s gross that he is trying to capitalize on and appropriate anti-racist themes to support charters. Instead of being anti-racist he has instead proven himself to be racist.

Is this a parody? I can't tell if this person is making fun of young people who think they are battling racism, or if this is actually sincere?

The woke left has appropriated the language of the civil rights movement. "Racist" means anything they don't like. "Equity" means things they do like. As in, hamburgers are so racist but soy burgers -- that's equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Wow. Do you think the majority of people who live in the poorest IB school catchment areas can afford to live in JKLM-land? In any kind of or size of housing? Do you think they have that kind of mobility? Or the community support to provide child-care (because they aren't hiring au pairs)? The mere fact that you see this merely as an issue of "restricting your housing search by geography " necessarily disqualifies you from meaningful participation in this discussion. This is not about your friends from grad school who chose to buy a $900,000 house in Petworth instead of a tiny place in Friendship Heights and are now complaining about their school options.

You can live in JKLM/Eaton/OA for $800/mo. Not many families would like the options at that price.

PP again — but the question here isn’t whether everybody can afford all areas of town.

The question is whether it’s racist to go to Wilson vs. Latin.

If the idea is someone is racist because their income is higher than someone else’s, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

Here is one observation: while wilson has diverse demographics, many neighborhoods that feed to Wilson are not diverse.

I'm not sure what the breakdown is of where Latin kids are coming from, but is it possible that they live in more integrated neighborhoods? And thus the white kids there are not living in an overwhelming white neighborhood and it all feels less racist.

DCPS is 10% white. Charter selection should be done by lottery. What is your reason for why BASIS has a larger white population than DCPS and even larger than IB for Wilson? I’d really like to know how it’s not evidence of systemic racism.

e

If about 40% of the people who rank Basis high (or even just include it) on their lottery list are white, then about 40% of the students will be white.

Same reason there are few whites at KIPP: few whites rank it high on their lottery lists.

The lottery is not completely random results. It’s aim is to fairly match students to the schools whose approach they like best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Wow. Do you think the majority of people who live in the poorest IB school catchment areas can afford to live in JKLM-land? In any kind of or size of housing? Do you think they have that kind of mobility? Or the community support to provide child-care (because they aren't hiring au pairs)? The mere fact that you see this merely as an issue of "restricting your housing search by geography " necessarily disqualifies you from meaningful participation in this discussion. This is not about your friends from grad school who chose to buy a $900,000 house in Petworth instead of a tiny place in Friendship Heights and are now complaining about their school options.

You can live in JKLM/Eaton/OA for $800/mo. Not many families would like the options at that price.

PP again — but the question here isn’t whether everybody can afford all areas of town.

The question is whether it’s racist to go to Wilson vs. Latin.

If the idea is someone is racist because their income is higher than someone else’s, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

Here is one observation: while wilson has diverse demographics, many neighborhoods that feed to Wilson are not diverse.

I'm not sure what the breakdown is of where Latin kids are coming from, but is it possible that they live in more integrated neighborhoods? And thus the white kids there are not living in an overwhelming white neighborhood and it all feels less racist.

DCPS is 10% white. Charter selection should be done by lottery. What is your reason for why BASIS has a larger white population than DCPS and even larger than IB for Wilson? I’d really like to know how it’s not evidence of systemic racism.

e

If about 40% of the people who rank Basis high (or even just include it) on their lottery list are white, then about 40% of the students will be white.

Same reason there are few whites at KIPP: few whites rank it high on their lottery lists.

The lottery is not completely random results. It’s aim is to fairly match students to the schools whose approach they like best.

Also, Wilson’s IB neighborhoods are not 48% Black, but they are diverse. For example, of my 8 closest neighbors, 3 families are South Asian and 1 is Spanish.

[Anonymous]

So the lottery is racist? If so, who is responsible? Who decided to use a lottery system?