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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was only talking about girls. Boys side has some completely funded academy teams.

The girls side is a country club. Argue all you want but it is. Top girls soccer is for families with the funds to buy it and if you can't see the obvious dozens and dozens and dozens of articles from a variety of organizations examining the reality of youth soccer and other sports say the exactly same thing with lots of data to back it up.

Fair enough. I know nothing about girls teams - so you may well be correct.

Ummm. Since the thread is about a soccer league for girls, why would anyone be posting about boys soccer in here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.

agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.

Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.

This is incorrect.


VMI is not a service academy, but a state-run military school. Service academies, like Annapolis, West Point and the AF Academy do not charge tuition, but they do require all graduates to serve 5 years of active duty, while VMI has no active duty requirement and charges cadets for room/board, uniforms and tuition (not 1 and 2 are wrong). All USMA graduates receive regular commissions in the US Army, while VMI graduates seeking commissions through ROTC have no guarantee of a regular commission. Graduates of West Point are though of highly and "extremely marketable" throughout the country, while most people who are not in South Carolina (Citadel) or VMI (Virginia) view these schools as places for kids who couldn't get into the service academies are are "playing soldier." (No. 3 is wrong). For instance, the Citadel's most notable alumni include Pat Conroy (the writer) and Fritz Hollings (a senator from SC), while West Point includes Buzz Aldrin, Douglas McArthur, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Pershing.

If you want to go to college and earn a commission on graduation, many schools offer ROTC programs. In fact, these programs are the only way that Citadel and VMI graduates end up in the Armed Forces, as those institutions have no affiliation with the U.S. armed forces, save their respective ROTC programs. Nos 4-7 are correct, but they are correct about any ROTC program and are in no way specific to VMI or Citadel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.

agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.

Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.

This is incorrect.


VMI is not a service academy, but a state-run military school. Service academies, like Annapolis, West Point and the AF Academy do not charge tuition, but they do require all graduates to serve 5 years of active duty, while VMI has no active duty requirement and charges cadets for room/board, uniforms and tuition (not 1 and 2 are wrong). All USMA graduates receive regular commissions in the US Army, while VMI graduates seeking commissions through ROTC have no guarantee of a regular commission. Graduates of West Point are though of highly and "extremely marketable" throughout the country, while most people who are not in South Carolina (Citadel) or VMI (Virginia) view these schools as places for kids who couldn't get into the service academies are are "playing soldier." (No. 3 is wrong). For instance, the Citadel's most notable alumni include Pat Conroy (the writer) and Fritz Hollings (a senator from SC), while West Point includes Buzz Aldrin, Douglas McArthur, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Pershing.

If you want to go to college and earn a commission on graduation, many schools offer ROTC programs. In fact, these programs are the only way that Citadel and VMI graduates end up in the Armed Forces, as those institutions have no affiliation with the U.S. armed forces, save their respective ROTC programs. Nos 4-7 are correct, but they are correct about any ROTC program and are in no way specific to VMI or Citadel.

So get a free ride elsewhere and commission. Good luck

[Anonymous]

So get a free ride elsewhere and commission. Good luck

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tell us, based on your observations, when should the best 36 players per age group be picked and consolidated and by whom. Who is the expert who is going to find, evaluate and pick the best in a population of 2.5 million people in NOVA.

Also, what exactly is the point to consolidate the best 36 while throwing away the other 100. You trust the system to be free of politics and fair. You believe all kids will stay the same?

Are you will to throw away talent song your kid can beat Real SoCal?

I posted the original. Why is narrowing the elite clubs to two “throwing the other kids away?” They would still play on non ECNL teams and have the chance to compete for ECNL positions on those teams. By the way, the next tier would be much better in that scenario and it would be much healthier for all involved. And what’s wrong with fielding local teams that can compete nationally? That’s how I’d define elite, not the watered down s show we have today.

What does compete nationally mean to you?

Again, the OP of this thought. The original response was the the comment that this area is a "hotbed" for youth girls soccer, with the justification of this comment by stating there are 7 "elite" girls teams locally (5 ECNL, 2 GA). While I agree there are many girls who play soccer here,I don't feel this qualifies the region as a "hotbed." If you look at the composition of those 7 "elite" teams, you find many non-elite players within. Distill those so called elite clubs from seven to two, and I believe then you'd have a true elite set of players on teams that could hang with the best in other regions. The fact there are 7 of these clubs has much more to do with the wallets of the parents in this area than the quality of talent in the girls pool vs. other regions.

The fact is that there is nothing special about this area with regard to attributes that would give girls who are raised here head and shoulders advantages over the other regions, and this region certainly doesn't have a population advantage over the other regions that consistently produce better teams than are found here. I understand that there is much privilege in this region. and many here feel themselves elite when compared to the other regions of the country, but this outsized ego needs to be checked with a little reality. Your job titles and salaries don't convey soccer talent to your daughters.

Two elite clubs with a pyramid up to compete for spots is about right. No hotbed, just a hot mess at present.

Another 80 sentence post of non-sense. I’m not claiming it’s a hotbed based solely on my belief. It is in fact considered A HOTBED by every single analyst in the country. It has been considered one for over twenty years. You are mistaken if you think you have a clue what you’re talking about in the regard. In fact, you don’t even read the response properly. It was said that it is fertile ground and a war to dominate the area created two many clubs on the girls side. I never said it was justification. I am in fact stating what happened. I also said three clubs need to go and four will do the trick if properly spaced. I further stated that if each county had one club we would be in much better shape...Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William.

It’s not a hotbed. It was a hotbed back in the 80s when many local players made it to the top. Now it’s a hot mess. You still haven’t disproven that statement.

What stats would you like to hear king hater? You ask me and I’ll provide. It will be fun.

I wanna hear bed temperatures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This has gone pretty far afield. Can this be shut down?

You can personally shut it down for yourself by not clicking on the thread any more. Why do you feel the need to shut it down for others?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was only talking about girls. Boys side has some completely funded academy teams.

The girls side is a country club. Argue all you want but it is. Top girls soccer is for families with the funds to buy it and if you can't see the obvious dozens and dozens and dozens of articles from a variety of organizations examining the reality of youth soccer and other sports say the exactly same thing with lots of data to back it up.

Fair enough. I know nothing about girls teams - so you may well be correct.

Ummm. Since the thread is about a soccer league for girls, why would anyone be posting about boys soccer in here?

Discussion had diverged from the orignal topic by this point don't you think? And it was pretty clear I was talking about boys since I mentioned DCU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was only talking about girls. Boys side has some completely funded academy teams.

The girls side is a country club. Argue all you want but it is. Top girls soccer is for families with the funds to buy it and if you can't see the obvious dozens and dozens and dozens of articles from a variety of organizations examining the reality of youth soccer and other sports say the exactly same thing with lots of data to back it up.

Fair enough. I know nothing about girls teams - so you may well be correct.

Ummm. Since the thread is about a soccer league for girls, why would anyone be posting about boys soccer in here?

Discussion had diverged from the orignal topic by this point don't you think? And it was pretty clear I was talking about boys since I mentioned DCU.

The thread is called GA showcase. Do you have anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.

agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.

Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.

This is incorrect.


VMI is not a service academy, but a state-run military school. Service academies, like Annapolis, West Point and the AF Academy do not charge tuition, but they do require all graduates to serve 5 years of active duty, while VMI has no active duty requirement and charges cadets for room/board, uniforms and tuition (not 1 and 2 are wrong). All USMA graduates receive regular commissions in the US Army, while VMI graduates seeking commissions through ROTC have no guarantee of a regular commission. Graduates of West Point are though of highly and "extremely marketable" throughout the country, while most people who are not in South Carolina (Citadel) or VMI (Virginia) view these schools as places for kids who couldn't get into the service academies are are "playing soldier." (No. 3 is wrong). For instance, the Citadel's most notable alumni include Pat Conroy (the writer) and Fritz Hollings (a senator from SC), while West Point includes Buzz Aldrin, Douglas McArthur, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Pershing.

If you want to go to college and earn a commission on graduation, many schools offer ROTC programs. In fact, these programs are the only way that Citadel and VMI graduates end up in the Armed Forces, as those institutions have no affiliation with the U.S. armed forces, save their respective ROTC programs. Nos 4-7 are correct, but they are correct about any ROTC program and are in no way specific to VMI or Citadel.

Yea but it's a D1 girls soccer powerhouse program. Bobby said it would be a pathway to USWNT

[Anonymous]

Your obsession is odd

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.

agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.

Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.

This is incorrect.


VMI is not a service academy, but a state-run military school. Service academies, like Annapolis, West Point and the AF Academy do not charge tuition, but they do require all graduates to serve 5 years of active duty, while VMI has no active duty requirement and charges cadets for room/board, uniforms and tuition (not 1 and 2 are wrong). All USMA graduates receive regular commissions in the US Army, while VMI graduates seeking commissions through ROTC have no guarantee of a regular commission. Graduates of West Point are though of highly and "extremely marketable" throughout the country, while most people who are not in South Carolina (Citadel) or VMI (Virginia) view these schools as places for kids who couldn't get into the service academies are are "playing soldier." (No. 3 is wrong). For instance, the Citadel's most notable alumni include Pat Conroy (the writer) and Fritz Hollings (a senator from SC), while West Point includes Buzz Aldrin, Douglas McArthur, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Pershing.

If you want to go to college and earn a commission on graduation, many schools offer ROTC programs. In fact, these programs are the only way that Citadel and VMI graduates end up in the Armed Forces, as those institutions have no affiliation with the U.S. armed forces, save their respective ROTC programs. Nos 4-7 are correct, but they are correct about any ROTC program and are in no way specific to VMI or Citadel.

This response makes me seriously laugh at the "laugh it up" poster! Way to post a long post about something you know NOTHING about. And it's THEIR Counterparts.. not THERE Counterparts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.

agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.

Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.

This is incorrect.


VMI is not a service academy, but a state-run military school. Service academies, like Annapolis, West Point and the AF Academy do not charge tuition, but they do require all graduates to serve 5 years of active duty, while VMI has no active duty requirement and charges cadets for room/board, uniforms and tuition (not 1 and 2 are wrong). All USMA graduates receive regular commissions in the US Army, while VMI graduates seeking commissions through ROTC have no guarantee of a regular commission. Graduates of West Point are though of highly and "extremely marketable" throughout the country, while most people who are not in South Carolina (Citadel) or VMI (Virginia) view these schools as places for kids who couldn't get into the service academies are are "playing soldier." (No. 3 is wrong). For instance, the Citadel's most notable alumni include Pat Conroy (the writer) and Fritz Hollings (a senator from SC), while West Point includes Buzz Aldrin, Douglas McArthur, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Pershing.

If you want to go to college and earn a commission on graduation, many schools offer ROTC programs. In fact, these programs are the only way that Citadel and VMI graduates end up in the Armed Forces, as those institutions have no affiliation with the U.S. armed forces, save their respective ROTC programs. Nos 4-7 are correct, but they are correct about any ROTC program and are in no way specific to VMI or Citadel.

This response makes me seriously laugh at the "laugh it up" poster! Way to post a long post about something you know NOTHING about. And it's THEIR Counterparts.. not THERE Counterparts.

This response makes me seriously laugh at the "laugh it up" poster! Way to post a long post about something you know NOTHING about. And it's THEIR Counterparts.. not THERE Counterparts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essentially get rid of BRYC, FCV and Metro.

agreed. The 3 or so good players from those leagues will find a spot somewhere the rest/most of the team can play rec somewhere or High School. Like they should anyway. All they are doing is paying for sub par coaches to pump their kids full of promises of D1 play at VMI.

Kids are going for VMI and citadel on free rides. You keep bringing that up like it’s a joke.

Here is what your missing in your attempt to be funny

1. 120,000 dollar savings
2. A good education for FREE
3. Influential alumni network

If they do commission

4. Graduate and become a officer
5. Get discharged at 26 years old with more training and experience then there counterparts
6. Extremely marketable
7. GI bill for masters or can use for their kids in the future (another 120,000 in savings)

So laugh it up. You lack big picture vision.

This is incorrect.


VMI is not a service academy, but a state-run military school. Service academies, like Annapolis, West Point and the AF Academy do not charge tuition, but they do require all graduates to serve 5 years of active duty, while VMI has no active duty requirement and charges cadets for room/board, uniforms and tuition (not 1 and 2 are wrong). All USMA graduates receive regular commissions in the US Army, while VMI graduates seeking commissions through ROTC have no guarantee of a regular commission. Graduates of West Point are though of highly and "extremely marketable" throughout the country, while most people who are not in South Carolina (Citadel) or VMI (Virginia) view these schools as places for kids who couldn't get into the service academies are are "playing soldier." (No. 3 is wrong). For instance, the Citadel's most notable alumni include Pat Conroy (the writer) and Fritz Hollings (a senator from SC), while West Point includes Buzz Aldrin, Douglas McArthur, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Pershing.

If you want to go to college and earn a commission on graduation, many schools offer ROTC programs. In fact, these programs are the only way that Citadel and VMI graduates end up in the Armed Forces, as those institutions have no affiliation with the U.S. armed forces, save their respective ROTC programs. Nos 4-7 are correct, but they are correct about any ROTC program and are in no way specific to VMI or Citadel.

Yea but it's a D1 girls soccer powerhouse program. Bobby said it would be a pathway to USWNT

Oh Bobby!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was only talking about girls. Boys side has some completely funded academy teams.

The girls side is a country club. Argue all you want but it is. Top girls soccer is for families with the funds to buy it and if you can't see the obvious dozens and dozens and dozens of articles from a variety of organizations examining the reality of youth soccer and other sports say the exactly same thing with lots of data to back it up.

Fair enough. I know nothing about girls teams - so you may well be correct.

Ummm. Since the thread is about a soccer league for girls, why would anyone be posting about boys soccer in here?

Discussion had diverged from the orignal topic by this point don't you think? And it was pretty clear I was talking about boys since I mentioned DCU.

The thread is called GA showcase. Do you have anything?

Thread nazi alert.

[Anonymous]

VMI women's soccer is not a pathway to the USWNT.