We spend around 18K a month, where does it go?

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The only things that I could see cutting back in are personal care, housekeeping (way too high) and

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Adult clothes. Maybe gifts. Your car expenses are pretty low and your life insurance is way low.

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Anonymous wrote:Twice weekly housekeeper?

How's this dramatic? We have someone who comes 5hrs a day 5 days a week. She runs errands, grocery shops, cleans (we have weekly deep cleaners), meal preps, and organizes. I spends exactly zero time doing things I don't like doing. Well worth thr money.

Omg please how did you find her and how much do you pay.We are dying for something like this.

We pay a flat $500/wk-52 weeks a year, but also pay her and our side of FICA.

She's not working this week because we are on vacation, but she is doing a grocery shopping tomorrow and picking up our Easter catering so we come home to a full fridge of food.

We take 4-5 such weeks off a year.

I found her from a neighbor. She was their amazing nanny who was a household manager practically and the kids grew out of needing a nanny. She splits her time between us and another family. We have her from 12-5 M-F

It's incredible. I don't grocery shop, my fruits and veggies and cleaned and chopped and stored, i don't do laundry and, my closets are organized, my home is clutter free, and she now knows exactly what I need for meal prep. I post a weekly menu and she does all the chopping a cleaning, marinating and measuring. I just assemble stuff.

She also picks us prescriptions, gets oil changes, runs to thr post office, and will take the pets to the groomer.

Even Eddie Murphy goes to dry cleaners and run errands, he once said if I outsource everything what the f@ck do I do all day and I don’t want cold Starbucks. I like errands. I don’t consider them work.

Yes, I wonder if you outsource literally everything, what exactly are you doing with your time? Not like scrubbing toilets or folding laundry is fun but I consider some of these activities to be the business of living, so to speak. They give me a chance to think or move around or I play music or talk to DH while I do them.

I can think plenty in the absence of scrubbing toilets and folding laundry. Both DH and I work FT and don't find cleaning and shopping enhances our family time. I'm glad this brings you pleasure though. Maybe if your looking for work you can give my toilets a swirl.

I also won't take advice on running a household from a man who has 5 different baby mammas.

We all work full time. Chores aren’t pleasurable, but doing things for yourself and being competent at running your household should give you a sense of pride or contentment. My parents worked full time and I wasn’t raised to think of household chores as this horrible bane of my existence ruining my life even though my mother was a physician and could have outsourced whatever she wanted to. But she didn’t because she was organized and not accumulating junk constantly and chores did not make her miserable.

Why "should" this give me a sense of pride and contentment? Your virtue signal is strong. I don't find this virtuous. It's tedious and a waste of my time. Of course I can do all this stuff. It's not rocket science. I can also change the oil in my car. I won't ever do that. It does not spark joy or contentment as you say. I mush prefer spending time with my family, reading a book, or simply watching a movie on a random Wednesday night.

Virtue signaling? Ok, you do you. Very few people can afford to outsource everything, and honestly, taking care of your home is not that hard if you have a decent routine. It honestly seems so wasteful. But keep dreaming of the day you can just lay about and do nothing all day. It sounds like you’re having a blast.

I'm confused now, you're changing it up. Will cleaning toilets and doing laundry bring me pride and contentment instead of hanging with my family? Or is it now wasteful to have someone else do that? What exactly am I wasting and which virtue is more noble?

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Anonymous wrote:Twice weekly housekeeper?

How's this dramatic? We have someone who comes 5hrs a day 5 days a week. She runs errands, grocery shops, cleans (we have weekly deep cleaners), meal preps, and organizes. I spends exactly zero time doing things I don't like doing. Well worth thr money.

Omg please how did you find her and how much do you pay.We are dying for something like this.

We pay a flat $500/wk-52 weeks a year, but also pay her and our side of FICA.

She's not working this week because we are on vacation, but she is doing a grocery shopping tomorrow and picking up our Easter catering so we come home to a full fridge of food.

We take 4-5 such weeks off a year.

I found her from a neighbor. She was their amazing nanny who was a household manager practically and the kids grew out of needing a nanny. She splits her time between us and another family. We have her from 12-5 M-F

It's incredible. I don't grocery shop, my fruits and veggies and cleaned and chopped and stored, i don't do laundry and, my closets are organized, my home is clutter free, and she now knows exactly what I need for meal prep. I post a weekly menu and she does all the chopping a cleaning, marinating and measuring. I just assemble stuff.

She also picks us prescriptions, gets oil changes, runs to thr post office, and will take the pets to the groomer.

Even Eddie Murphy goes to dry cleaners and run errands, he once said if I outsource everything what the f@ck do I do all day and I don’t want cold Starbucks. I like errands. I don’t consider them work.

Yes, I wonder if you outsource literally everything, what exactly are you doing with your time? Not like scrubbing toilets or folding laundry is fun but I consider some of these activities to be the business of living, so to speak. They give me a chance to think or move around or I play music or talk to DH while I do them.

I can think plenty in the absence of scrubbing toilets and folding laundry. Both DH and I work FT and don't find cleaning and shopping enhances our family time. I'm glad this brings you pleasure though. Maybe if your looking for work you can give my toilets a swirl.

I also won't take advice on running a household from a man who has 5 different baby mammas.

We all work full time. Chores aren’t pleasurable, but doing things for yourself and being competent at running your household should give you a sense of pride or contentment. My parents worked full time and I wasn’t raised to think of household chores as this horrible bane of my existence ruining my life even though my mother was a physician and could have outsourced whatever she wanted to. But she didn’t because she was organized and not accumulating junk constantly and chores did not make her miserable.

Why "should" this give me a sense of pride and contentment? Your virtue signal is strong. I don't find this virtuous. It's tedious and a waste of my time. Of course I can do all this stuff. It's not rocket science. I can also change the oil in my car. I won't ever do that. It does not spark joy or contentment as you say. I mush prefer spending time with my family, reading a book, or simply watching a movie on a random Wednesday night.

Virtue signaling? Ok, you do you. Very few people can afford to outsource everything, and honestly, taking care of your home is not that hard if you have a decent routine. It honestly seems so wasteful. But keep dreaming of the day you can just lay about and do nothing all day. It sounds like you’re having a blast.

I'm confused now, you're changing it up. Will cleaning toilets and doing laundry bring me pride and contentment instead of hanging with my family? Or is it now wasteful to have someone else do that? What exactly am I wasting and which virtue is more noble?

What are you talking about? No one is “virtue signaling,” I don’t even think you are using that phrase correctly. You just seem aggressive for no reaso. I have family abroad who have hired help for every minute detail of their lives, and it’s really not something I would want. My parents grew up with that too- and they did not want it in the US.

If you want to be miserable living your life like a normal person, go right ahead. Rest assured that OP and “I don’t wash my vegetables” lady are not happy, content people. Would you really create a post like this if you were a happy person? Would you really brag about something like that if you were genuinely happy about it? It’s like my husband says about the couples who post too much lovey-dovey stuff on Facebook- something is not right there.

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Anonymous wrote:Twice weekly housekeeper?

How's this dramatic? We have someone who comes 5hrs a day 5 days a week. She runs errands, grocery shops, cleans (we have weekly deep cleaners), meal preps, and organizes. I spends exactly zero time doing things I don't like doing. Well worth thr money.

Omg please how did you find her and how much do you pay.We are dying for something like this.

We pay a flat $500/wk-52 weeks a year, but also pay her and our side of FICA.

She's not working this week because we are on vacation, but she is doing a grocery shopping tomorrow and picking up our Easter catering so we come home to a full fridge of food.

We take 4-5 such weeks off a year.

I found her from a neighbor. She was their amazing nanny who was a household manager practically and the kids grew out of needing a nanny. She splits her time between us and another family. We have her from 12-5 M-F

It's incredible. I don't grocery shop, my fruits and veggies and cleaned and chopped and stored, i don't do laundry and, my closets are organized, my home is clutter free, and she now knows exactly what I need for meal prep. I post a weekly menu and she does all the chopping a cleaning, marinating and measuring. I just assemble stuff.

She also picks us prescriptions, gets oil changes, runs to thr post office, and will take the pets to the groomer.

Even Eddie Murphy goes to dry cleaners and run errands, he once said if I outsource everything what the f@ck do I do all day and I don’t want cold Starbucks. I like errands. I don’t consider them work.

Yes, I wonder if you outsource literally everything, what exactly are you doing with your time? Not like scrubbing toilets or folding laundry is fun but I consider some of these activities to be the business of living, so to speak. They give me a chance to think or move around or I play music or talk to DH while I do them.

I can think plenty in the absence of scrubbing toilets and folding laundry. Both DH and I work FT and don't find cleaning and shopping enhances our family time. I'm glad this brings you pleasure though. Maybe if your looking for work you can give my toilets a swirl.

I also won't take advice on running a household from a man who has 5 different baby mammas.

We all work full time. Chores aren’t pleasurable, but doing things for yourself and being competent at running your household should give you a sense of pride or contentment. My parents worked full time and I wasn’t raised to think of household chores as this horrible bane of my existence ruining my life even though my mother was a physician and could have outsourced whatever she wanted to. But she didn’t because she was organized and not accumulating junk constantly and chores did not make her miserable.

Why "should" this give me a sense of pride and contentment? Your virtue signal is strong. I don't find this virtuous. It's tedious and a waste of my time. Of course I can do all this stuff. It's not rocket science. I can also change the oil in my car. I won't ever do that. It does not spark joy or contentment as you say. I mush prefer spending time with my family, reading a book, or simply watching a movie on a random Wednesday night.

Virtue signaling? Ok, you do you. Very few people can afford to outsource everything, and honestly, taking care of your home is not that hard if you have a decent routine. It honestly seems so wasteful. But keep dreaming of the day you can just lay about and do nothing all day. It sounds like you’re having a blast.

I'm confused now, you're changing it up. Will cleaning toilets and doing laundry bring me pride and contentment instead of hanging with my family? Or is it now wasteful to have someone else do that? What exactly am I wasting and which virtue is more noble?

What are you talking about? No one is “virtue signaling,” I don’t even think you are using that phrase correctly. You just seem aggressive for no reaso. I have family abroad who have hired help for every minute detail of their lives, and it’s really not something I would want. My parents grew up with that too- and they did not want it in the US.

If you want to be miserable living your life like a normal person, go right ahead. Rest assured that OP and “I don’t wash my vegetables” lady are not happy, content people. Would you really create a post like this if you were a happy person? Would you really brag about something like that if you were genuinely happy about it? It’s like my husband says about the couples who post too much lovey-dovey stuff on Facebook- something is not right there.

I'm not the OP keep up.

You seem very emotionally involved in my housekeeper. It's kind of odd, but people like you are why I keep coming back to this site. I'm hoping you are just drunk.

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Anonymous wrote:Twice weekly housekeeper?

How's this dramatic? We have someone who comes 5hrs a day 5 days a week. She runs errands, grocery shops, cleans (we have weekly deep cleaners), meal preps, and organizes. I spends exactly zero time doing things I don't like doing. Well worth thr money.

Omg please how did you find her and how much do you pay.We are dying for something like this.

We pay a flat $500/wk-52 weeks a year, but also pay her and our side of FICA.

She's not working this week because we are on vacation, but she is doing a grocery shopping tomorrow and picking up our Easter catering so we come home to a full fridge of food.

We take 4-5 such weeks off a year.

I found her from a neighbor. She was their amazing nanny who was a household manager practically and the kids grew out of needing a nanny. She splits her time between us and another family. We have her from 12-5 M-F

It's incredible. I don't grocery shop, my fruits and veggies and cleaned and chopped and stored, i don't do laundry and, my closets are organized, my home is clutter free, and she now knows exactly what I need for meal prep. I post a weekly menu and she does all the chopping a cleaning, marinating and measuring. I just assemble stuff.

She also picks us prescriptions, gets oil changes, runs to thr post office, and will take the pets to the groomer.

Even Eddie Murphy goes to dry cleaners and run errands, he once said if I outsource everything what the f@ck do I do all day and I don’t want cold Starbucks. I like errands. I don’t consider them work.

Yes, I wonder if you outsource literally everything, what exactly are you doing with your time? Not like scrubbing toilets or folding laundry is fun but I consider some of these activities to be the business of living, so to speak. They give me a chance to think or move around or I play music or talk to DH while I do them.

I can think plenty in the absence of scrubbing toilets and folding laundry. Both DH and I work FT and don't find cleaning and shopping enhances our family time. I'm glad this brings you pleasure though. Maybe if your looking for work you can give my toilets a swirl.

I also won't take advice on running a household from a man who has 5 different baby mammas.

We all work full time. Chores aren’t pleasurable, but doing things for yourself and being competent at running your household should give you a sense of pride or contentment. My parents worked full time and I wasn’t raised to think of household chores as this horrible bane of my existence ruining my life even though my mother was a physician and could have outsourced whatever she wanted to. But she didn’t because she was organized and not accumulating junk constantly and chores did not make her miserable.

Why "should" this give me a sense of pride and contentment? Your virtue signal is strong. I don't find this virtuous. It's tedious and a waste of my time. Of course I can do all this stuff. It's not rocket science. I can also change the oil in my car. I won't ever do that. It does not spark joy or contentment as you say. I mush prefer spending time with my family, reading a book, or simply watching a movie on a random Wednesday night.

Virtue signaling? Ok, you do you. Very few people can afford to outsource everything, and honestly, taking care of your home is not that hard if you have a decent routine. It honestly seems so wasteful. But keep dreaming of the day you can just lay about and do nothing all day. It sounds like you’re having a blast.

I'm confused now, you're changing it up. Will cleaning toilets and doing laundry bring me pride and contentment instead of hanging with my family? Or is it now wasteful to have someone else do that? What exactly am I wasting and which virtue is more noble?

What are you talking about? No one is “virtue signaling,” I don’t even think you are using that phrase correctly. You just seem aggressive for no reaso. I have family abroad who have hired help for every minute detail of their lives, and it’s really not something I would want. My parents grew up with that too- and they did not want it in the US.

If you want to be miserable living your life like a normal person, go right ahead. Rest assured that OP and “I don’t wash my vegetables” lady are not happy, content people. Would you really create a post like this if you were a happy person? Would you really brag about something like that if you were genuinely happy about it? It’s like my husband says about the couples who post too much lovey-dovey stuff on Facebook- something is not right there.

I'm not the OP keep up.

You seem very emotionally involved in my housekeeper. It's kind of odd, but people like you are why I keep coming back to this site. I'm hoping you are just drunk.

I’ve been alive long enough to know that no one happy would write something like this. This is just a bitter, mean person hoping to get some satisfaction out of one-upping someone anonymously on the internet.

Everyone sees you, lady.

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How's this dramatic? We have someone who comes 5hrs a day 5 days a week. She runs errands, grocery shops, cleans (we have weekly deep cleaners), meal preps, and organizes. I spends exactly zero time doing things I don't like doing. Well worth thr money.

Omg please how did you find her and how much do you pay.We are dying for something like this.

We pay a flat $500/wk-52 weeks a year, but also pay her and our side of FICA.

She's not working this week because we are on vacation, but she is doing a grocery shopping tomorrow and picking up our Easter catering so we come home to a full fridge of food.

We take 4-5 such weeks off a year.

I found her from a neighbor. She was their amazing nanny who was a household manager practically and the kids grew out of needing a nanny. She splits her time between us and another family. We have her from 12-5 M-F

It's incredible. I don't grocery shop, my fruits and veggies and cleaned and chopped and stored, i don't do laundry and, my closets are organized, my home is clutter free, and she now knows exactly what I need for meal prep. I post a weekly menu and she does all the chopping a cleaning, marinating and measuring. I just assemble stuff.

She also picks us prescriptions, gets oil changes, runs to thr post office, and will take the pets to the groomer.

Even Eddie Murphy goes to dry cleaners and run errands, he once said if I outsource everything what the f@ck do I do all day and I don’t want cold Starbucks. I like errands. I don’t consider them work.

Yes, I wonder if you outsource literally everything, what exactly are you doing with your time? Not like scrubbing toilets or folding laundry is fun but I consider some of these activities to be the business of living, so to speak. They give me a chance to think or move around or I play music or talk to DH while I do them.

I can think plenty in the absence of scrubbing toilets and folding laundry. Both DH and I work FT and don't find cleaning and shopping enhances our family time. I'm glad this brings you pleasure though. Maybe if your looking for work you can give my toilets a swirl.

I also won't take advice on running a household from a man who has 5 different baby mammas.

We all work full time. Chores aren’t pleasurable, but doing things for yourself and being competent at running your household should give you a sense of pride or contentment. My parents worked full time and I wasn’t raised to think of household chores as this horrible bane of my existence ruining my life even though my mother was a physician and could have outsourced whatever she wanted to. But she didn’t because she was organized and not accumulating junk constantly and chores did not make her miserable.

Why "should" this give me a sense of pride and contentment? Your virtue signal is strong. I don't find this virtuous. It's tedious and a waste of my time. Of course I can do all this stuff. It's not rocket science. I can also change the oil in my car. I won't ever do that. It does not spark joy or contentment as you say. I mush prefer spending time with my family, reading a book, or simply watching a movie on a random Wednesday night.

Virtue signaling? Ok, you do you. Very few people can afford to outsource everything, and honestly, taking care of your home is not that hard if you have a decent routine. It honestly seems so wasteful. But keep dreaming of the day you can just lay about and do nothing all day. It sounds like you’re having a blast.

I'm confused now, you're changing it up. Will cleaning toilets and doing laundry bring me pride and contentment instead of hanging with my family? Or is it now wasteful to have someone else do that? What exactly am I wasting and which virtue is more noble?

What are you talking about? No one is “virtue signaling,” I don’t even think you are using that phrase correctly. You just seem aggressive for no reaso. I have family abroad who have hired help for every minute detail of their lives, and it’s really not something I would want. My parents grew up with that too- and they did not want it in the US.

If you want to be miserable living your life like a normal person, go right ahead. Rest assured that OP and “I don’t wash my vegetables” lady are not happy, content people. Would you really create a post like this if you were a happy person? Would you really brag about something like that if you were genuinely happy about it? It’s like my husband says about the couples who post too much lovey-dovey stuff on Facebook- something is not right there.

I'm not the OP keep up.

You seem very emotionally involved in my housekeeper. It's kind of odd, but people like you are why I keep coming back to this site. I'm hoping you are just drunk.

I’ve been alive long enough to know that no one happy would write something like this. This is just a bitter, mean person hoping to get some satisfaction out of one-upping someone anonymously on the internet.

Everyone sees you, lady.

Just a poor here chiming in. I don't know...seems this poster who is attacking someone who has a housekeeper is the one unhappy. She honestly comes across jealous.

I find it fascinating that someone can afford this. If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd hire a housekeeper like this. It would be Devine to throw my limited free time into my kids, spouse, friends and....gasp...have time for self care. I glean no happiness from chores. It's exhausting to work full time and run a household. It's a grind.

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Why "should" this give me a sense of pride and contentment? Your virtue signal is strong. I don't find this virtuous. It's tedious and a waste of my time. Of course I can do all this stuff. It's not rocket science. I can also change the oil in my car. I won't ever do that. It does not spark joy or contentment as you say. I mush prefer spending time with my family, reading a book, or simply watching a movie on a random Wednesday night.

NP. Agree with above. To 20:49, I used to do all of those household chores on my own but have no desire to anymore can afford not to. After a long day of work I’d rather spend my time exercising or playing a board game with my kids. I don’t see anything wrong with that.

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I understand why some have issues with these expenses, but valuing time over material goods is appropriate as you build wealth.

Many don't seem to have an issue with housecleaners, but draw the line at having someone prep meals? What about a driver? Or an actual chef? Which service is acceptable and which is indulgent--- and how much of that is based on your relative income?

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How's this dramatic? We have someone who comes 5hrs a day 5 days a week. She runs errands, grocery shops, cleans (we have weekly deep cleaners), meal preps, and organizes. I spends exactly zero time doing things I don't like doing. Well worth thr money.

Omg please how did you find her and how much do you pay.We are dying for something like this.

We pay a flat $500/wk-52 weeks a year, but also pay her and our side of FICA.

She's not working this week because we are on vacation, but she is doing a grocery shopping tomorrow and picking up our Easter catering so we come home to a full fridge of food.

We take 4-5 such weeks off a year.

I found her from a neighbor. She was their amazing nanny who was a household manager practically and the kids grew out of needing a nanny. She splits her time between us and another family. We have her from 12-5 M-F

It's incredible. I don't grocery shop, my fruits and veggies and cleaned and chopped and stored, i don't do laundry and, my closets are organized, my home is clutter free, and she now knows exactly what I need for meal prep. I post a weekly menu and she does all the chopping a cleaning, marinating and measuring. I just assemble stuff.

She also picks us prescriptions, gets oil changes, runs to thr post office, and will take the pets to the groomer.

$500/week = $100/day divided by 5 hours = $20/hour. That is such a bargain, seriously sounds amazing. I’m surprised she’s not asking for more tbh!

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Anonymous wrote:I understand why some have issues with these expenses, but valuing time over material goods is appropriate as you build wealth.

Many don't seem to have an issue with housecleaners, but draw the line at having someone prep meals? What about a driver? Or an actual chef? Which service is acceptable and which is indulgent--- and how much of that is based on your relative income?

My question is why does anyone have an issue with someone employing a housekeeper? How does that impact them? I can see somewhat having an issue with employing an illegal immigrant or paying under the table. But then again I'm someone who thinks this would be amazing. I'm not gonna hate on that anymore than I'm going to hate on someone who uses Uber eats.

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Anonymous wrote:What gets me with budgets like this is how exhausting it must all be to do and shop and keep track of this all. Half a dozen boxes on the steps every day. People coming in and out of the house performing services. Dozens of e-mails coming through about orders and reminders of upcoming services.

It's why I can see how the ultra rich have household managers.

I had a similar thought. It’s the same reason I don’t want a huge house and why my family has 1 car (we’re in a walkable area near metro). It’s why my entire 4 seasons of wardrobe fits in my closet and dresser. It’s why my kids have a reasonable amount of toys.

I can understand splurging on some experiences like travel or a hobby (like if you ski a lot or something) or even private school if you believe it would benefit your child. And I’ll admit I’ve spent some money on bougie exercise classes and health foods. But I don’t want my life to be so complicated that managing it is a full time job — or I guess you could outsource all this too! The shopping seems so excessive. There is a mental toll to managing a bunch of possessions that just doesn’t appeal to me nor do I want a lot of material belongings to be something my children aspire to have. Not to mention I hate the thought of things ending up in the landfill for decades to come. Much rather check out my local buy nothing group if there is something I need/would like to borrow.

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How's this dramatic? We have someone who comes 5hrs a day 5 days a week. She runs errands, grocery shops, cleans (we have weekly deep cleaners), meal preps, and organizes. I spends exactly zero time doing things I don't like doing. Well worth thr money.

Omg please how did you find her and how much do you pay.We are dying for something like this.

We pay a flat $500/wk-52 weeks a year, but also pay her and our side of FICA.

She's not working this week because we are on vacation, but she is doing a grocery shopping tomorrow and picking up our Easter catering so we come home to a full fridge of food.

We take 4-5 such weeks off a year.

I found her from a neighbor. She was their amazing nanny who was a household manager practically and the kids grew out of needing a nanny. She splits her time between us and another family. We have her from 12-5 M-F

It's incredible. I don't grocery shop, my fruits and veggies and cleaned and chopped and stored, i don't do laundry and, my closets are organized, my home is clutter free, and she now knows exactly what I need for meal prep. I post a weekly menu and she does all the chopping a cleaning, marinating and measuring. I just assemble stuff.

She also picks us prescriptions, gets oil changes, runs to thr post office, and will take the pets to the groomer.

Even Eddie Murphy goes to dry cleaners and run errands, he once said if I outsource everything what the f@ck do I do all day and I don’t want cold Starbucks. I like errands. I don’t consider them work.

Yes, I wonder if you outsource literally everything, what exactly are you doing with your time? Not like scrubbing toilets or folding laundry is fun but I consider some of these activities to be the business of living, so to speak. They give me a chance to think or move around or I play music or talk to DH while I do them.

I can think plenty in the absence of scrubbing toilets and folding laundry. Both DH and I work FT and don't find cleaning and shopping enhances our family time. I'm glad this brings you pleasure though. Maybe if your looking for work you can give my toilets a swirl.

I also won't take advice on running a household from a man who has 5 different baby mammas.

We all work full time. Chores aren’t pleasurable, but doing things for yourself and being competent at running your household should give you a sense of pride or contentment. My parents worked full time and I wasn’t raised to think of household chores as this horrible bane of my existence ruining my life even though my mother was a physician and could have outsourced whatever she wanted to. But she didn’t because she was organized and not accumulating junk constantly and chores did not make her miserable.

Why "should" this give me a sense of pride and contentment? Your virtue signal is strong. I don't find this virtuous. It's tedious and a waste of my time. Of course I can do all this stuff. It's not rocket science. I can also change the oil in my car. I won't ever do that. It does not spark joy or contentment as you say. I mush prefer spending time with my family, reading a book, or simply watching a movie on a random Wednesday night.

Virtue signaling? Ok, you do you. Very few people can afford to outsource everything, and honestly, taking care of your home is not that hard if you have a decent routine. It honestly seems so wasteful. But keep dreaming of the day you can just lay about and do nothing all day. It sounds like you’re having a blast.

I'm confused now, you're changing it up. Will cleaning toilets and doing laundry bring me pride and contentment instead of hanging with my family? Or is it now wasteful to have someone else do that? What exactly am I wasting and which virtue is more noble?

What are you talking about? No one is “virtue signaling,” I don’t even think you are using that phrase correctly. You just seem aggressive for no reaso. I have family abroad who have hired help for every minute detail of their lives, and it’s really not something I would want. My parents grew up with that too- and they did not want it in the US.

If you want to be miserable living your life like a normal person, go right ahead. Rest assured that OP and “I don’t wash my vegetables” lady are not happy, content people. Would you really create a post like this if you were a happy person? Would you really brag about something like that if you were genuinely happy about it? It’s like my husband says about the couples who post too much lovey-dovey stuff on Facebook- something is not right there.

I'm not the OP keep up.

You seem very emotionally involved in my housekeeper. It's kind of odd, but people like you are why I keep coming back to this site. I'm hoping you are just drunk.

I’ve been alive long enough to know that no one happy would write something like this. This is just a bitter, mean person hoping to get some satisfaction out of one-upping someone anonymously on the internet.

Everyone sees you, lady.

Just a poor here chiming in. I don't know...seems this poster who is attacking someone who has a housekeeper is the one unhappy. She honestly comes across jealous.

I find it fascinating that someone can afford this. If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd hire a housekeeper like this. It would be Devine to throw my limited free time into my kids, spouse, friends and....gasp...have time for self care. I glean no happiness from chores. It's exhausting to work full time and run a household. It's a grind.

Totally agree! Time is invaluable. I also can’t afford this sort of thing, but as I earn more it’s absolutely something I’ll invest in. Also, for what they get, $500/week seems incredibly cheap....it seems like a no-brainer to spend that.

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Anonymous wrote:What gets me with budgets like this is how exhausting it must all be to do and shop and keep track of this all. Half a dozen boxes on the steps every day. People coming in and out of the house performing services. Dozens of e-mails coming through about orders and reminders of upcoming services.

It's why I can see how the ultra rich have household managers.

I had a similar thought. It’s the same reason I don’t want a huge house and why my family has 1 car (we’re in a walkable area near metro). It’s why my entire 4 seasons of wardrobe fits in my closet and dresser. It’s why my kids have a reasonable amount of toys.

I can understand splurging on some experiences like travel or a hobby (like if you ski a lot or something) or even private school if you believe it would benefit your child. And I’ll admit I’ve spent some money on bougie exercise classes and health foods. But I don’t want my life to be so complicated that managing it is a full time job — or I guess you could outsource all this too! The shopping seems so excessive. There is a mental toll to managing a bunch of possessions that just doesn’t appeal to me nor do I want a lot of material belongings to be something my children aspire to have. Not to mention I hate the thought of things ending up in the landfill for decades to come. Much rather check out my local buy nothing group if there is something I need/would like to borrow.

Same. And it seems like a lot of this is wrapped up in an image you are presenting to the world- your appearance, your house, your stuff, your kids. Should presenting an image to everyone else become basically your occupation?

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Anonymous wrote:Twice weekly housekeeper?

How's this dramatic? We have someone who comes 5hrs a day 5 days a week. She runs errands, grocery shops, cleans (we have weekly deep cleaners), meal preps, and organizes. I spends exactly zero time doing things I don't like doing. Well worth thr money.

Omg please how did you find her and how much do you pay.We are dying for something like this.

We pay a flat $500/wk-52 weeks a year, but also pay her and our side of FICA.

She's not working this week because we are on vacation, but she is doing a grocery shopping tomorrow and picking up our Easter catering so we come home to a full fridge of food.

We take 4-5 such weeks off a year.

I found her from a neighbor. She was their amazing nanny who was a household manager practically and the kids grew out of needing a nanny. She splits her time between us and another family. We have her from 12-5 M-F

It's incredible. I don't grocery shop, my fruits and veggies and cleaned and chopped and stored, i don't do laundry and, my closets are organized, my home is clutter free, and she now knows exactly what I need for meal prep. I post a weekly menu and she does all the chopping a cleaning, marinating and measuring. I just assemble stuff.

She also picks us prescriptions, gets oil changes, runs to thr post office, and will take the pets to the groomer.

$500/week = $100/day divided by 5 hours = $20/hour. That is such a bargain, seriously sounds amazing. I’m surprised she’s not asking for more tbh!

Yes...her rate is lower than standard. However there are other perks...we gave her a car, paid a high medical deductible when she had surgery last year, and give her a nice Christmas bonus. We also let her use our miles to fly to her home country each summer. We also have a pool she is welcome to use anytime and had her family there a lot this summer due to the pandemic. She even taught her nice and nephew how to swim this summer.