13 y.o. girl sexually assaulted in Rock Creek Park trail in Kensington earlier this evening (March9)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of when there was a spate of rapes in Israel in the 1970s and politicians recommended women have a curfew to keep them safe.

And Golda Meir, the PM said: "Men are committing the rapes. Let them be put under curfew.”

Very wise.

Did they actually do it?

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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. It's dark at 6:45pm. Trails are unsafe.

+1.

Did the trail attack her? MEN are unsafe.

Yeah? Which men? All men? Some men? Most men? A few men?

Which men? Be specific. Generalization is for the soft-minded. Are you soft-minded?

What does that changed when you are followed by a man on a trail? Are we supposed to guess if he's one of good ones or bad ones? This violence is perpetrated exclusively by MEN. The "not all men" shit is irrelevant, it is very much a male issue. Women don't go around attacking and raping male joggers.

You sound like you may have some irrational hatred of “ALL” men. Do you have a therapist?

I don't hate men. I live with one and am the mother to one. But I've been insulted, attacked, groped, followed, objectified and discriminated against by men many times in my life starting in childhood, like a lot of women out there (most women probably). I have feared for my safety countless times and learned from young age that men are a potential danger to us. That is not what I want for generations to come. It's time we stop treating gender-based violence as some type of fatality. The fact that you think what I am saying is irrational just shows that you have no clue.

You know that most children don’t seem to understand the word “no”? Why is that?
They’ve learned from home that they don’t need to obey the word “no”, and they don’t have to respect (obey) their parents. Where do you think that leads to?
Hint: They won’t respect you or your body either.

Definitely. We have to let our kids experience frustration and learn from it. But they also learn from what they see at home. The stereotype at play in many families is often : daddy puts his needs first (relaxes after work, enjoys a drink and some me time) while mommy puts everyone's needs before her own and eats the burnt pancake while mentally reviewing the list of chores that need to be done. I am exaggerating of course. But that notion of men getting what they want and women being "givers" also contributes to the feeling of entitlement some men have towards women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of these posters are so gross. The poor girl wasn’t even in the park. The posting clearly states she was on the park access route in the K-P neighborhood. There are baseball diamonds right there on the edge of the park, so she may have been coming home from sports practice. So even if this teen was doing everything right—simply walking home in her own neighborhood at dusk (not wandering around in a park at night) she still was attacked.

I’m going to amplify this post. I live very close. The girl was not in the park. She was on the access path which is basically in the neighborhood. It was just getting dark. It was a beautiful day. My kids were actually still out playing at the time in happened. My camera caught the suspect walking down the road maybe 10 minutes before the attack which suggests he got to the access point and waited for an opportunity. I hope the family doesn’t read some of the posts above.

Glad your camera got an image of the guy. Why won’t the police show it to the public? My daughter goes to school in Kensington and about a week before this horrible incident, she and a few friends were walking along a neighborhood street near Safeway and a young man exposed himself to the girls and said some vulgar things. Wonder if it is the same guy.

I glad the young woman in this incident is okay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. It's dark at 6:45pm. Trails are unsafe.

+1.

Did the trail attack her? MEN are unsafe.

Yeah? Which men? All men? Some men? Most men? A few men?

Which men? Be specific. Generalization is for the soft-minded. Are you soft-minded?

What does that changed when you are followed by a man on a trail? Are we supposed to guess if he's one of good ones or bad ones? This violence is perpetrated exclusively by MEN. The "not all men" shit is irrelevant, it is very much a male issue. Women don't go around attacking and raping male joggers.

You sound like you may have some irrational hatred of “ALL” men. Do you have a therapist?

I don't hate men. I live with one and am the mother to one. But I've been insulted, attacked, groped, followed, objectified and discriminated against by men many times in my life starting in childhood, like a lot of women out there (most women probably). I have feared for my safety countless times and learned from young age that men are a potential danger to us. That is not what I want for generations to come. It's time we stop treating gender-based violence as some type of fatality. The fact that you think what I am saying is irrational just shows that you have no clue.

Well, there were those two Hart WOMEN who murdered their six adopted kids by driving off a cliff in California. That happens more than you would think. Should we ban all women from having/adopting kids?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/entertainment/horrifying-true-story-hart-family-100000604.html

What a f'd up kind of argument. I'm talking about a problem that affects all women. Your unwillingness to acknowledge reality makes you part of the problem.

The reality is that not ALL men are attackers. THAT is a ridiculous argument.

The problem is actually that we are not cracking down on the men who do commit these crimes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of these posters are so gross. The poor girl wasn’t even in the park. The posting clearly states she was on the park access route in the K-P neighborhood. There are baseball diamonds right there on the edge of the park, so she may have been coming home from sports practice. So even if this teen was doing everything right—simply walking home in her own neighborhood at dusk (not wandering around in a park at night) she still was attacked.

I’m going to amplify this post. I live very close. The girl was not in the park. She was on the access path which is basically in the neighborhood. It was just getting dark. It was a beautiful day. My kids were actually still out playing at the time in happened. My camera caught the suspect walking down the road maybe 10 minutes before the attack which suggests he got to the access point and waited for an opportunity. I hope the family doesn’t read some of the posts above.

Glad your camera got an image of the guy. Why won’t the police show it to the public? My daughter goes to school in Kensington and about a week before this horrible incident, she and a few friends were walking along a neighborhood street near Safeway and a young man exposed himself to the girls and said some vulgar things. Wonder if it is the same guy.

I glad the young woman in this incident is okay.

Hope they do make the image public and they catch the guy. Surely he will do it again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. It's dark at 6:45pm. Trails are unsafe.

+1.

Did the trail attack her? MEN are unsafe.

Yeah? Which men? All men? Some men? Most men? A few men?

Which men? Be specific. Generalization is for the soft-minded. Are you soft-minded?

What does that changed when you are followed by a man on a trail? Are we supposed to guess if he's one of good ones or bad ones? This violence is perpetrated exclusively by MEN. The "not all men" shit is irrelevant, it is very much a male issue. Women don't go around attacking and raping male joggers.

You sound like you may have some irrational hatred of “ALL” men. Do you have a therapist?

I don't hate men. I live with one and am the mother to one. But I've been insulted, attacked, groped, followed, objectified and discriminated against by men many times in my life starting in childhood, like a lot of women out there (most women probably). I have feared for my safety countless times and learned from young age that men are a potential danger to us. That is not what I want for generations to come. It's time we stop treating gender-based violence as some type of fatality. The fact that you think what I am saying is irrational just shows that you have no clue.

You know that most children don’t seem to understand the word “no”? Why is that?
They’ve learned from home that they don’t need to obey the word “no”, and they don’t have to respect (obey) their parents. Where do you think that leads to?
Hint: They won’t respect you or your body either.

Definitely. We have to let our kids experience frustration and learn from it. But they also learn from what they see at home. The stereotype at play in many families is often : daddy puts his needs first (relaxes after work, enjoys a drink and some me time) while mommy puts everyone's needs before her own and eats the burnt pancake while mentally reviewing the list of chores that need to be done. I am exaggerating of course. But that notion of men getting what they want and women being "givers" also contributes to the feeling of entitlement some men have towards women.

Well said.
I’d like to see adults teaching children to hold the door open for elders. The lack of manners is an issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of these posters are so gross. The poor girl wasn’t even in the park. The posting clearly states she was on the park access route in the K-P neighborhood. There are baseball diamonds right there on the edge of the park, so she may have been coming home from sports practice. So even if this teen was doing everything right—simply walking home in her own neighborhood at dusk (not wandering around in a park at night) she still was attacked.

I’m going to amplify this post. I live very close. The girl was not in the park. She was on the access path which is basically in the neighborhood. It was just getting dark. It was a beautiful day. My kids were actually still out playing at the time in happened. My camera caught the suspect walking down the road maybe 10 minutes before the attack which suggests he got to the access point and waited for an opportunity. I hope the family doesn’t read some of the posts above.

Glad your camera got an image of the guy. Why won’t the police show it to the public? My daughter goes to school in Kensington and about a week before this horrible incident, she and a few friends were walking along a neighborhood street near Safeway and a young man exposed himself to the girls and said some vulgar things. Wonder if it is the same guy.

I glad the young woman in this incident is okay.

Hope they do make the image public and they catch the guy. Surely he will do it again.

Local residents needs to DEMAND his picture is made public. Immediately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. It's dark at 6:45pm. Trails are unsafe.

+1.

Did the trail attack her? MEN are unsafe.

Yeah? Which men? All men? Some men? Most men? A few men?

Which men? Be specific. Generalization is for the soft-minded. Are you soft-minded?

What does that changed when you are followed by a man on a trail? Are we supposed to guess if he's one of good ones or bad ones? This violence is perpetrated exclusively by MEN. The "not all men" shit is irrelevant, it is very much a male issue. Women don't go around attacking and raping male joggers.

You sound like you may have some irrational hatred of “ALL” men. Do you have a therapist?

I don't hate men. I live with one and am the mother to one. But I've been insulted, attacked, groped, followed, objectified and discriminated against by men many times in my life starting in childhood, like a lot of women out there (most women probably). I have feared for my safety countless times and learned from young age that men are a potential danger to us. That is not what I want for generations to come. It's time we stop treating gender-based violence as some type of fatality. The fact that you think what I am saying is irrational just shows that you have no clue.

What makes “your two males” special? Don’t you worry about them attacking you or someone else?

No, you say?

Why not?

Well guess what? Most other males aren’t attacking women for the same exact reasons yours aren’t.

You don’t have two unicorns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. It's dark at 6:45pm. Trails are unsafe.

+1.

Did the trail attack her? MEN are unsafe.

Yeah? Which men? All men? Some men? Most men? A few men?

Which men? Be specific. Generalization is for the soft-minded. Are you soft-minded?

What does that changed when you are followed by a man on a trail? Are we supposed to guess if he's one of good ones or bad ones? This violence is perpetrated exclusively by MEN. The "not all men" shit is irrelevant, it is very much a male issue. Women don't go around attacking and raping male joggers.

You sound like you may have some irrational hatred of “ALL” men. Do you have a therapist?

I don't hate men. I live with one and am the mother to one. But I've been insulted, attacked, groped, followed, objectified and discriminated against by men many times in my life starting in childhood, like a lot of women out there (most women probably). I have feared for my safety countless times and learned from young age that men are a potential danger to us. That is not what I want for generations to come. It's time we stop treating gender-based violence as some type of fatality. The fact that you think what I am saying is irrational just shows that you have no clue.

What makes “your two males” special? Don’t you worry about them attacking you or someone else?

No, you say?

Why not?

Well guess what? Most other males aren’t attacking women for the same exact reasons yours aren’t.

You don’t have two unicorns.

Look, I never said "all men". But ALL women have been made unsafe by men. And these attacks are ALWAYS perpetrated by men. Do you see a pattern? Do you want to pretend it's just human beings attacking other human beings? it's not. This violence is gender-based in nature and only goes one way. If you can't see that then I can't help you. So what's the solution. Lay the burden on women again? Enough of that.

[Anonymous]

Re: some of the comments on this thread....

I used to believe “not all men” but now I firmly believe “yes all men”.

Every woman I know has been assaulted in some way. Often from men they trusted - family, friends, etc.

Throughout middle, high school, and college it was very common for males to touch females sexually. I had males stick their hands in my swimsuit at the pool and down my pants at parties. When I confronted them, they were SHOCKED that what they did was wrong.

Most of the other males I know blame women in some way. What do you expect dressed like that at a party? All he did was touch your butt, it’s not THAT traumatizing.

And every male I’ve ever known has contributed to sexual exploitation of women by consuming porn or other parts of the sex industry. These reduce women to nothing but objects to be consumed by men. I used to think it was fine since everyone is a consenting adult, but after seeing the way most sex workers are treated, I strongly believe it’s exploitation.

I’ve also seen/heard the sort of comments men I know make about women, and much of it is horrifying.

The unicorns are the men who treat women like human beings. Even rarer are those who call out other men. So yes, it’s all men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: some of the comments on this thread....

I used to believe “not all men” but now I firmly believe “yes all men”.

Every woman I know has been assaulted in some way. Often from men they trusted - family, friends, etc.

Throughout middle, high school, and college it was very common for males to touch females sexually. I had males stick their hands in my swimsuit at the pool and down my pants at parties. When I confronted them, they were SHOCKED that what they did was wrong.

Most of the other males I know blame women in some way. What do you expect dressed like that at a party? All he did was touch your butt, it’s not THAT traumatizing.

And every male I’ve ever known has contributed to sexual exploitation of women by consuming porn or other parts of the sex industry. These reduce women to nothing but objects to be consumed by men. I used to think it was fine since everyone is a consenting adult, but after seeing the way most sex workers are treated, I strongly believe it’s exploitation.

I’ve also seen/heard the sort of comments men I know make about women, and much of it is horrifying.

The unicorns are the men who treat women like human beings. Even rarer are those who call out other men. So yes, it’s all men.

Find a different psychiatrist. Your current one isn’t helping you work through your issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. It's dark at 6:45pm. Trails are unsafe.

+1.

Did the trail attack her? MEN are unsafe.

Yeah? Which men? All men? Some men? Most men? A few men?

Which men? Be specific. Generalization is for the soft-minded. Are you soft-minded?

What does that changed when you are followed by a man on a trail? Are we supposed to guess if he's one of good ones or bad ones? This violence is perpetrated exclusively by MEN. The "not all men" shit is irrelevant, it is very much a male issue. Women don't go around attacking and raping male joggers.

You sound like you may have some irrational hatred of “ALL” men. Do you have a therapist?

I don't hate men. I live with one and am the mother to one. But I've been insulted, attacked, groped, followed, objectified and discriminated against by men many times in my life starting in childhood, like a lot of women out there (most women probably). I have feared for my safety countless times and learned from young age that men are a potential danger to us. That is not what I want for generations to come. It's time we stop treating gender-based violence as some type of fatality. The fact that you think what I am saying is irrational just shows that you have no clue.

What makes “your two males” special? Don’t you worry about them attacking you or someone else?

No, you say?

Why not?

Well guess what? Most other males aren’t attacking women for the same exact reasons yours aren’t.

You don’t have two unicorns.

Look, I never said "all men". But ALL women have been made unsafe by men. And these attacks are ALWAYS perpetrated by men. Do you see a pattern? Do you want to pretend it's just human beings attacking other human beings? it's not. This violence is gender-based in nature and only goes one way. If you can't see that then I can't help you. So what's the solution. Lay the burden on women again? Enough of that.

I agree that the burden should not be on women.

What’s YOUR solution??

My teen son is getting lessons on consent in his middle school health class. That’s probably a good start. And since he was a kid, we have talked about respecting space and not touching another person (boy or girl) without permission.

However, the young man in this case probably wasn’t raised here in the US. He probably comes from a country with a different culture and differing attitudes towards women. Maybe an absent dad? What do you propose we do?

Start training boys in other countries to respect women when they come to the US? Seems like overreach. But I’d like to hear what you think should happen in this case. Or what we should have done differently to prevent this from happening. In THIS particular case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many of these posters are so gross. The poor girl wasn’t even in the park. The posting clearly states she was on the park access route in the K-P neighborhood. There are baseball diamonds right there on the edge of the park, so she may have been coming home from sports practice. So even if this teen was doing everything right—simply walking home in her own neighborhood at dusk (not wandering around in a park at night) she still was attacked.

I’m going to amplify this post. I live very close. The girl was not in the park. She was on the access path which is basically in the neighborhood. It was just getting dark. It was a beautiful day. My kids were actually still out playing at the time in happened. My camera caught the suspect walking down the road maybe 10 minutes before the attack which suggests he got to the access point and waited for an opportunity. I hope the family doesn’t read some of the posts above.

Glad your camera got an image of the guy. Why won’t the police show it to the public? My daughter goes to school in Kensington and about a week before this horrible incident, she and a few friends were walking along a neighborhood street near Safeway and a young man exposed himself to the girls and said some vulgar things. Wonder if it is the same guy.

I glad the young woman in this incident is okay.

Hope they do make the image public and they catch the guy. Surely he will do it again.

Local residents needs to DEMAND his picture is made public. Immediately.

The rights of the man must be protected

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: some of the comments on this thread....

I used to believe “not all men” but now I firmly believe “yes all men”.

Every woman I know has been assaulted in some way. Often from men they trusted - family, friends, etc.

Throughout middle, high school, and college it was very common for males to touch females sexually. I had males stick their hands in my swimsuit at the pool and down my pants at parties. When I confronted them, they were SHOCKED that what they did was wrong.

Most of the other males I know blame women in some way. What do you expect dressed like that at a party? All he did was touch your butt, it’s not THAT traumatizing.

And every male I’ve ever known has contributed to sexual exploitation of women by consuming porn or other parts of the sex industry. These reduce women to nothing but objects to be consumed by men. I used to think it was fine since everyone is a consenting adult, but after seeing the way most sex workers are treated, I strongly believe it’s exploitation.

I’ve also seen/heard the sort of comments men I know make about women, and much of it is horrifying.

The unicorns are the men who treat women like human beings. Even rarer are those who call out other men. So yes, it’s all men.

You hang around some interesting men in your life. I've not had numerous male friends grab my butt or make lewd comments. I suppose they watch porn but so does everyone else in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: some of the comments on this thread....

I used to believe “not all men” but now I firmly believe “yes all men”.

Every woman I know has been assaulted in some way. Often from men they trusted - family, friends, etc.

Throughout middle, high school, and college it was very common for males to touch females sexually. I had males stick their hands in my swimsuit at the pool and down my pants at parties. When I confronted them, they were SHOCKED that what they did was wrong.

Most of the other males I know blame women in some way. What do you expect dressed like that at a party? All he did was touch your butt, it’s not THAT traumatizing.

And every male I’ve ever known has contributed to sexual exploitation of women by consuming porn or other parts of the sex industry. These reduce women to nothing but objects to be consumed by men. I used to think it was fine since everyone is a consenting adult, but after seeing the way most sex workers are treated, I strongly believe it’s exploitation.

I’ve also seen/heard the sort of comments men I know make about women, and much of it is horrifying.

The unicorns are the men who treat women like human beings. Even rarer are those who call out other men. So yes, it’s all men.

Where did you grow up?