Breonna Taylor: Grand Jury

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I am confused. Did the boyfriend shot first or not?
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Good.

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused. Did the boyfriend shot first or not?


Yes. He shot a police officer. He admitted to shooting first.
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Anonymous wrote:I am confused. Did the boyfriend shot first or not?


Yes. He shot a police officer. He admitted to shooting first.


I think the question is did the police properly announce who they were before trying to break down the door. Most people would probably shoot at someone they didn't know that was breaking into their home.
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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty amazing how many people seem to think it is ok for the police to break into someone's house in the middle of the night. It's no surprise that this ended in a gunfight. The surprise is how many people are ok with it.


What.

So your saying the police like to break into people’s homes in the middle of the night to kill them?


How about having a warrant for arrest for drug charges. That’s a pretty good reason to “break” into a home to arrest a potential criminal.

And yeah, if you shoot at a cop, expect to get shot in return.


You make it sound like cops are breaking into home all over the place for fun.


She did not shoot at the officer. Check your facts before you spout off.


As I said before, if you shoot at the cops, expect to get shot at in return. (Referencing her boyfriend shooting the cops). His shooting at the cops caused them to shoot back. Unfortunately she got caught in the crossfire. Still his fault for shooting first.


How did he know they were cops and not intruders? What ever happened to 2nd amendment rights and the right to defend your home from intruders? If armed men burst into your home in the middle of the night, wouldn't you defend yourself?


Can you imagine the NRA frenzy if this had happened to a white family? The boyfriend would have been a hero, his beautiful blonde EMT girlfriend a martyr. The laws would've been changed with a quickness, charges filed right away, the President would've tried to give the boyfriend a medal.


You are truly ignorant in more than one way, and should stop talking now. At least these cops were actually put before a grand jury. Contrary to your little fantasy that the police are only targeting blacks, that is hardly the case. Your little scenario played out earlier this year and the 22 year old kid isn't going to get ANY of the media coverage Breonna got. Know why? White kid... that white privilege feels so good when no one will eve talk about you being murdered in your house by power mad cops who think they are Nazi secret police.

Go look up Duncan Lemp, and stop talking so much, I'm embarassed for you.


NP. I hadn't heard anything of Duncan Lemp before. That is a crazy story and even more crazy that it didn't get any media attention. I suppose a white guy being shot by the police for no reason doesn't fit the narrative the media wants to portray. Interestingly, there was a white man killed by police officers in Dallas a few years ago in the same manner as George Floyd, all caught on camera. and it received no media coverage either. How many more stories are there like this? I ask because obviously it is a police problem that goes beyond just black victims. We need to be talking about it.
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Anonymous wrote:They knocked and identified themselves
Nobody came to the door,
They were legally allowed to enter
Her boyfriend had a gun
He shot the returned fire
These are all facts. Sad? yes, that a person who was turning her life around was with a person who was not a very good person.

Just because you don't like the outcome you have to accept it that based on the evidence her killing was not intentional.

Her family settled a wrongful death claim. They most likely knew this was coming and they settled less than a week ago.



Why doesn't the media report this? All they do is inflame the situation.


it’s all been reported but unlike you I’m not a racist and don’t think no-knock warrants are ok.


I don't think no-knock warrants are okay either but it was legal in this case and both the boyfriend and the police officers fired in self defense. It was a horrible tragedy that resulted in an innocent woman's death. The officers made a mistake that resulted in this tragedy but it's hard to see how they can be criminalized for what came down to an error.


My take as well. It’s so sad but this doesn’t seem the right scenario for BLM.


It never is. It's never the right time to have a conversation about how we value black lives. Because we don't. And we don't want to talk about it. So because no human is perfect, there will always be a reason why they deserved whatever they got.
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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty amazing how many people seem to think it is ok for the police to break into someone's house in the middle of the night. It's no surprise that this ended in a gunfight. The surprise is how many people are ok with it.


What.

So your saying the police like to break into people’s homes in the middle of the night to kill them?


How about having a warrant for arrest for drug charges. That’s a pretty good reason to “break” into a home to arrest a potential criminal.

And yeah, if you shoot at a cop, expect to get shot in return.


You make it sound like cops are breaking into home all over the place for fun.


She did not shoot at the officer. Check your facts before you spout off.


As I said before, if you shoot at the cops, expect to get shot at in return. (Referencing her boyfriend shooting the cops). His shooting at the cops caused them to shoot back. Unfortunately she got caught in the crossfire. Still his fault for shooting first.


How did he know they were cops and not intruders? What ever happened to 2nd amendment rights and the right to defend your home from intruders? If armed men burst into your home in the middle of the night, wouldn't you defend yourself?


Can you imagine the NRA frenzy if this had happened to a white family? The boyfriend would have been a hero, his beautiful blonde EMT girlfriend a martyr. The laws would've been changed with a quickness, charges filed right away, the President would've tried to give the boyfriend a medal.


You are truly ignorant in more than one way, and should stop talking now. At least these cops were actually put before a grand jury. Contrary to your little fantasy that the police are only targeting blacks, that is hardly the case. Your little scenario played out earlier this year and the 22 year old kid isn't going to get ANY of the media coverage Breonna got. Know why? White kid... that white privilege feels so good when no one will eve talk about you being murdered in your house by power mad cops who think they are Nazi secret police.

Go look up Duncan Lemp, and stop talking so much, I'm embarassed for you.


NP. I hadn't heard anything of Duncan Lemp before. That is a crazy story and even more crazy that it didn't get any media attention. I suppose a white guy being shot by the police for no reason doesn't fit the narrative the media wants to portray. Interestingly, there was a white man killed by police officers in Dallas a few years ago in the same manner as George Floyd, all caught on camera. and it received no media coverage either. How many more stories are there like this? I ask because obviously it is a police problem that goes beyond just black victims. We need to be talking about it.


We ARE talking about it. It's your ilk that doesn't want to talk about it because the face of the movement has brown skin.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's pretty amazing how many people seem to think it is ok for the police to break into someone's house in the middle of the night. It's no surprise that this ended in a gunfight. The surprise is how many people are ok with it.


What.

So your saying the police like to break into people’s homes in the middle of the night to kill them?


How about having a warrant for arrest for drug charges. That’s a pretty good reason to “break” into a home to arrest a potential criminal.

And yeah, if you shoot at a cop, expect to get shot in return.


You make it sound like cops are breaking into home all over the place for fun.


She did not shoot at the officer. Check your facts before you spout off.


As I said before, if you shoot at the cops, expect to get shot at in return. (Referencing her boyfriend shooting the cops). His shooting at the cops caused them to shoot back. Unfortunately she got caught in the crossfire. Still his fault for shooting first.


How did he know they were cops and not intruders? What ever happened to 2nd amendment rights and the right to defend your home from intruders? If armed men burst into your home in the middle of the night, wouldn't you defend yourself?


Can you imagine the NRA frenzy if this had happened to a white family? The boyfriend would have been a hero, his beautiful blonde EMT girlfriend a martyr. The laws would've been changed with a quickness, charges filed right away, the President would've tried to give the boyfriend a medal.


You are truly ignorant in more than one way, and should stop talking now. At least these cops were actually put before a grand jury. Contrary to your little fantasy that the police are only targeting blacks, that is hardly the case. Your little scenario played out earlier this year and the 22 year old kid isn't going to get ANY of the media coverage Breonna got. Know why? White kid... that white privilege feels so good when no one will eve talk about you being murdered in your house by power mad cops who think they are Nazi secret police.

Go look up Duncan Lemp, and stop talking so much, I'm embarassed for you.


NP. I hadn't heard anything of Duncan Lemp before. That is a crazy story and even more crazy that it didn't get any media attention. I suppose a white guy being shot by the police for no reason doesn't fit the narrative the media wants to portray. Interestingly, there was a white man killed by police officers in Dallas a few years ago in the same manner as George Floyd, all caught on camera. and it received no media coverage either. How many more stories are there like this? I ask because obviously it is a police problem that goes beyond just black victims. We need to be talking about it.


We ARE talking about it. It's your ilk that doesn't want to talk about it because the face of the movement has brown skin.


I was addressing why the media isn't covering it.
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Anonymous wrote:I am confused. Did the boyfriend shot first or not?


Yes. He shot a police officer. He admitted to shooting first.


I think the question is did the police properly announce who they were before trying to break down the door. Most people would probably shoot at someone they didn't know that was breaking into their home.


They announced their presence. Some in the area claimed not to have heard it.

The boyfriend shot first because he thought it was Taylor's drug-dealing ex-boyfriend - whom she was still visiting, assisting financially, allegedly keeping the proceeds of drug sales for, and who knows what else - breaking into their house.

Most people would probably hide and call the police rather than assume that an armed drug dealer with an axe to grind was breaking into their girlfriend's apartment. And of course not everyone owns a gun, either.

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Anonymous wrote:Another sad day.
America continues to be broken and soulless.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/us/breonna-taylor-attorney-general-grand-jury-announcement/index.html


Why is sad? You wanted justice, you're getting it. It's just not what the mob wanted.


Did Breonna Taylor get justice?

If this was your child, would you feel this was justice?


Her family quickly settled for $12 million. You have not heard form them because they knew the evidence unlike everyone who thought they knew. Now people don't like what they heard so the system is broken.
Anonymous
When people make better life choices, they don't end up like Miss Breonna Taylor. She got too close to the fire one too many times.
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PP, how do you hide in a tiny apartment? I guarantee you the guy wouldn't shoot at the police if he knew it was the police - what idiot would? As for owning a gun, I mean what IS the legally owned gun for if not protecting yourself? I think most gun rights advocates would agree that the right time to use the gun is when you think someone is breaking into your house in the middle of the night. It's also not really the time when most people are at the top of their rational faculties.
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Anonymous wrote:It is a terrible tragedy and if I were her family I would also want justice. It sounds like it was an accidental shooting in self defense but if I was her family I would want charges.


they got $12 million of them. Her family needs to speak out and respect the decision.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another sad day.
America continues to be broken and soulless.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/us/breonna-taylor-attorney-general-grand-jury-announcement/index.html


Why is sad? You wanted justice, you're getting it. It's just not what the mob wanted.


Did Breonna Taylor get justice?

If this was your child, would you feel this was justice?


Her family quickly settled for $12 million. You have not heard form them because they knew the evidence unlike everyone who thought they knew. Now people don't like what they heard so the system is broken.


Er...if the evidence was so bad, why even offer money? I'm assuming it's a big chunk of the budget to give away if you're truly innocent.
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Anonymous wrote:They knocked and identified themselves
Nobody came to the door,
They were legally allowed to enter
Her boyfriend had a gun
He shot the returned fire
These are all facts. Sad? yes, that a person who was turning her life around was with a person who was not a very good person.

Just because you don't like the outcome you have to accept it that based on the evidence her killing was not intentional.

Her family settled a wrongful death claim. They most likely knew this was coming and they settled less than a week ago.



Why doesn't the media report this? All they do is inflame the situation.


it’s all been reported but unlike you I’m not a racist and don’t think no-knock warrants are ok.


I don't think no-knock warrants are okay either but it was legal in this case and both the boyfriend and the police officers fired in self defense. It was a horrible tragedy that resulted in an innocent woman's death. The officers made a mistake that resulted in this tragedy but it's hard to see how they can be criminalized for what came down to an error.


My take as well. It’s so sad but this doesn’t seem the right scenario for BLM.


Yes, this shouldn't be a racial issue. The issue is are no-knock warrants a good idea. They are legal but it seems like a recipe for civilian-police shootouts.

What makes it racially charged is that so many white people seem to have no problem with no-knock warrants, because they assume that the police would never make a mistake that endangers their lives. Funny, that.
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