Breonna Taylor: Grand Jury

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Anonymous wrote:She was a bag lady who paid bail for a guy selling crack and fentanyl that was ruining the lives of others. Associate with criminal trash and you get burned. Most people save their sympathy for innocent victims, not co-conspirators.

This. Her name was also part of the plea bargain offered to her “ex” boyfriend but he went awol. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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Anonymous wrote:She was a bag lady who paid bail for a guy selling crack and fentanyl that was ruining the lives of others. Associate with criminal trash and you get burned. Most people save their sympathy for innocent victims, not co-conspirators.

Are you a pro-life Christian perchance?

Compassion is not for the innocent and the righteous. That's not how it works. Humans are not 1 dimensional. Stop calling people trash.

Even still, there is NO evidence that this woman was a criminal or co-conspirator. She was sleeping in her home. She was shot and killed by agents of our government. Try just a little to look beyond your bigotry and show compassion for your fellow human and American. If you can't do that, you may actually be the trashy one.

No evidence?

It’s a matter of record that she made frequent trips to a drug house; that she paid bail for a drug dealer; that he was taped as having told friends that she was holding almost $15K for him; and that she rented a car in which a dead guy’s body was found before she returned the car to the rental agency; and they her last boyfriend fired shots at police officers because he assumed her violent drug-dealing ex (or co-) boyfriend was breaking in.

I’m sorry she made so many bad life choices, along with some better ones, but she put herself in harm’s way repeatedly. Saving my sympathy for someone who didn’t help criminals get away with selling crack and fentanyl. Fortunately the officials in Kentucky aren’t going to throw cops under a bus just to appease a mob.

You're a sad, sick individual. There's a special place in hell for all of you.

No he’s not. You’re the wacko crying over this degenerate.

You notice that PP doesn’t dispute the facts. They just can’t handle them because someone probably told them that if they screamed Taylor’s name enough times they could intimidate a prosecutor and a grand jury into an indictment. Fortunately, the Kentucky AG has scruples.

Again, no knock warrant late at night. And then the agents of Big Government kill someone for standing their ground.

Whatever happened to liberty and small government?

Sorry, but these cops and their enablers in the DA/AG office are the modern day equivalent of the Red Coats. They are an occupying force who come in from the countryside to collect their paychecks.

Again, they had reason to believe she was harboring the proceeds of crack and fentanyl sales.

Sorry, but she spent way too much time in the company of dealers and criminals not to fall under suspicion.

It seems she wanted a better life for herself but couldn’t quite disengage. Her father was serving life in prison for murdering a man for a crack debt so maybe she had a softer spot for hard-core criminals than she should have.

Wtf are you talking about?

Again, an ex boyfriend does not equate to a death sentence. Maybe Big Government should be able to kill you because you have a crappy ex or a criminally inclined relative?

Again, this is the epitome of state violence. This is what the communist Chinese do to their citizens.

Now you’re just babbling. No one with a brain thinks this was a deliberate hit job. And if this were like communist China she would have been under closer surveillance, arrested the first time she bailed out her drug dealer boyfriend, and monitored closely enough that the cops knew her current (or most recent) boyfriend was in her apartment with her that night.

She made bad decisions and put herself in harm’s way over and over again. The only people I feel sorry for are other Louisville residents who’ll now lose $12 million in much-needed city services.

...which will go to a crackhead of a mom of hers... (DP)
There was an interview on NPR with a journalist who did a very thorough investigation on the case. She gave all the background details, in a sympathetic way, but neither Breonna nor her parents are angels.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty amazing how many people seem to think it is ok for the police to break into someone's house in the middle of the night. It's no surprise that this ended in a gunfight. The surprise is how many people are ok with it.

What.

So your saying the police like to break into people’s homes in the middle of the night to kill them?


How about having a warrant for arrest for drug charges. That’s a pretty good reason to “break” into a home to arrest a potential criminal.

And yeah, if you shoot at a cop, expect to get shot in return.


You make it sound like cops are breaking into home all over the place for fun.

She did not shoot at the officer. Check your facts before you spout off.

As I said before, if you shoot at the cops, expect to get shot at in return. (Referencing her boyfriend shooting the cops). His shooting at the cops caused them to shoot back. Unfortunately she got caught in the crossfire. Still his fault for shooting first.

How did he know they were cops and not intruders? What ever happened to 2nd amendment rights and the right to defend your home from intruders? If armed men burst into your home in the middle of the night, wouldn't you defend yourself?

Can you imagine the NRA frenzy if this had happened to a white family? The boyfriend would have been a hero, his beautiful blonde EMT girlfriend a martyr. The laws would've been changed with a quickness, charges filed right away, the President would've tried to give the boyfriend a medal.

You are truly ignorant in more than one way, and should stop talking now. At least these cops were actually put before a grand jury. Contrary to your little fantasy that the police are only targeting blacks, that is hardly the case. Your little scenario played out earlier this year and the 22 year old kid isn't going to get ANY of the media coverage Breonna got. Know why? White kid... that white privilege feels so good when no one will eve talk about you being murdered in your house by power mad cops who think they are Nazi secret police.

Go look up Duncan Lemp, and stop talking so much, I'm embarassed for you.

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Anonymous wrote:If the cops wanted to arrest the boyfriend, they could collar him on the street. But, no, the meathead cops wanted to get their sad jollies by executing a needless, pointless "raid" and, doh!! it went badly wrong.

MAGA brains in action

This is correct. Use logic. If the ex boyfriend had a bunch of dope how could he dispose of it quickly if the police had knocked on the door with a search warrant? If the genius police just use a water key ($9 at any Ace Hardware) to turn off the water at the street, the suspect would get one flush of the toilet. Where was the emergency in entering that home? No knock search warrants are supposed to be for heavily armed suspects where the element of surprise is needed. They should be rare. And the team is absolutely responsible for watching the home to make sure the target is inside the home. They obviously did not do that. They did not consider whether gunshots would go into neighboring apartments. At minimum they should all be charged with manslaughter. I'm hoping the DOJ investigation gets strung along until January. They absolutely violated her rights. These cops should be fired because they can't bring cases before a judge any more. The whole legal community knows they are liars. They are useless as police officers now.

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Anonymous wrote:If the cops wanted to arrest the boyfriend, they could collar him on the street. But, no, the meathead cops wanted to get their sad jollies by executing a needless, pointless "raid" and, doh!! it went badly wrong.

MAGA brains in action

This is correct. Use logic. If the ex boyfriend had a bunch of dope how could he dispose of it quickly if the police had knocked on the door with a search warrant? If the genius police just use a water key ($9 at any Ace Hardware) to turn off the water at the street, the suspect would get one flush of the toilet. Where was the emergency in entering that home? No knock search warrants are supposed to be for heavily armed suspects where the element of surprise is needed. They should be rare. And the team is absolutely responsible for watching the home to make sure the target is inside the home. They obviously did not do that. They did not consider whether gunshots would go into neighboring apartments. At minimum they should all be charged with manslaughter. I'm hoping the DOJ investigation gets strung along until January. They absolutely violated her rights. These cops should be fired because they can't bring cases before a judge any more. The whole legal community knows they are liars. They are useless as police officers now.

No. And you do not represent the "whole legal community."

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty amazing how many people seem to think it is ok for the police to break into someone's house in the middle of the night. It's no surprise that this ended in a gunfight. The surprise is how many people are ok with it.

What.

So your saying the police like to break into people’s homes in the middle of the night to kill them?


How about having a warrant for arrest for drug charges. That’s a pretty good reason to “break” into a home to arrest a potential criminal.

And yeah, if you shoot at a cop, expect to get shot in return.


You make it sound like cops are breaking into home all over the place for fun.

She did not shoot at the officer. Check your facts before you spout off.

As I said before, if you shoot at the cops, expect to get shot at in return. (Referencing her boyfriend shooting the cops). His shooting at the cops caused them to shoot back. Unfortunately she got caught in the crossfire. Still his fault for shooting first.

How did he know they were cops and not intruders? What ever happened to 2nd amendment rights and the right to defend your home from intruders? If armed men burst into your home in the middle of the night, wouldn't you defend yourself?

Can you imagine the NRA frenzy if this had happened to a white family? The boyfriend would have been a hero, his beautiful blonde EMT girlfriend a martyr. The laws would've been changed with a quickness, charges filed right away, the President would've tried to give the boyfriend a medal.

You are truly ignorant in more than one way, and should stop talking now. At least these cops were actually put before a grand jury. Contrary to your little fantasy that the police are only targeting blacks, that is hardly the case. Your little scenario played out earlier this year and the 22 year old kid isn't going to get ANY of the media coverage Breonna got. Know why? White kid... that white privilege feels so good when no one will eve talk about you being murdered in your house by power mad cops who think they are Nazi secret police.

Go look up Duncan Lemp, and stop talking so much, I'm embarassed for you.

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I don't think the previous poster understands there is a double standard here, which is bordering on racism.

Anyway, when you shoot at the police, expect lots of bullets to be heading your way. Sucks that sometimes innocent people get caught in the crossfire, but most bullets don't hit their intended target in a real gun fight.

[Anonymous]

While the death of Ms. Taylor is tragic and there is no way to bring her back, the outcome so far is actually a huge victory for the police reform movement.

1. An officer was charged with a felony (search The Washington Post database and you will see this is rare).
2. The family received a $12 million settlement.
3. Charges against the boyfriend for shooting the police officer were dropped.
4. There is bipartisan support in the United States Senate for ending no-knock warrants
5. The city of Louisville also is enacting some policing reforms

A grand jury has looked at all the facts and determined that charges are not warranted against the other officers. The system worked about as well as it could.

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Anonymous wrote:They knocked and identified themselves
Nobody came to the door,
They were legally allowed to enter
Her boyfriend had a gun
He shot the returned fire
These are all facts. Sad? yes, that a person who was turning her life around was with a person who was not a very good person.

Just because you don't like the outcome you have to accept it that based on the evidence her killing was not intentional.

Her family settled a wrongful death claim. They most likely knew this was coming and they settled less than a week ago.

Why doesn't the media report this? All they do is inflame the situation.

it’s all been reported but unlike you I’m not a racist and don’t think no-knock warrants are ok.

I don't think no-knock warrants are okay either but it was legal in this case and both the boyfriend and the police officers fired in self defense. It was a horrible tragedy that resulted in an innocent woman's death. The officers made a mistake that resulted in this tragedy but it's hard to see how they can be criminalized for what came down to an error.

My take as well. It’s so sad but this doesn’t seem the right scenario for BLM.

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Anonymous wrote:They knocked and identified themselves
Nobody came to the door,
They were legally allowed to enter
Her boyfriend had a gun
He shot the returned fire
These are all facts. Sad? yes, that a person who was turning her life around was with a person who was not a very good person.

Just because you don't like the outcome you have to accept it that based on the evidence her killing was not intentional.

Her family settled a wrongful death claim. They most likely knew this was coming and they settled less than a week ago.

Exactly! Don't shoot at cops. The boyfriend was bad news..

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Complete logic fail.

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Anonymous wrote:Another sad day.
America continues to be broken and soulless.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/us/breonna-taylor-attorney-general-grand-jury-announcement/index.html

How do republicans “justifiy” her killing?

Officers entering the house were shot at. One officer had his femoral artery severed. I cannot understand why they returned fire.

Should they have been there, I don't know. It appears that it was an authorized and approved warrant. But once that is signed off on, if you fire a weapon, you have to expect to get fire returned. It is tragic that she was shot as she was unarmed, however, she was standing with the person who had just fired the shots. Tragic, but the evidence apparently does not rise to the level of murder.

The person who shot first was STANDING HIS GROUND. Where's the NRA to back him up, he was shooting intruders into his home.

Geesus. Clearly that only works one way, when it's a white person feeling threatened by blacks.

The police knocked. They identified themselves. A witness heard them.
It is a sad situation all around. But, the police were not wrong.

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If I were the parent, I would be upset at the boyfriend for excavating the situation that led to her death. Seems clear that her death is a result of his stupidity.

If the boyfriend was in the wrong and shot first, why wasn’t he charged with anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While the death of Ms. Taylor is tragic and there is no way to bring her back, the outcome so far is actually a huge victory for the police reform movement.

1. An officer was charged with a felony (search The Washington Post database and you will see this is rare).
2. The family received a $12 million settlement.
3. Charges against the boyfriend for shooting the police officer were dropped.
4. There is bipartisan support in the United States Senate for ending no-knock warrants
5. The city of Louisville also is enacting some policing reforms

A grand jury has looked at all the facts and determined that charges are not warranted against the other officers. The system worked about as well as it could.

Most accurate summation of events.

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I wonder if these anarchist wannabes realize that when martial law is imposed and they are crying about “fascism”, they will be the cause of the curtailment of their civil rights?

My guess is no.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/23/breonna-taylor-protests-break-out-in-cities-across-nation/

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Anonymous wrote:Another sad day.
America continues to be broken and soulless.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/us/breonna-taylor-attorney-general-grand-jury-announcement/index.html

How do republicans “justifiy” her killing?

Officers entering the house were shot at. One officer had his femoral artery severed. I cannot understand why they returned fire.

Should they have been there, I don't know. It appears that it was an authorized and approved warrant. But once that is signed off on, if you fire a weapon, you have to expect to get fire returned. It is tragic that she was shot as she was unarmed, however, she was standing with the person who had just fired the shots. Tragic, but the evidence apparently does not rise to the level of murder.

The person who shot first was STANDING HIS GROUND. Where's the NRA to back him up, he was shooting intruders into his home.

Geesus. Clearly that only works one way, when it's a white person feeling threatened by blacks.

The police knocked. They identified themselves. A witness heard them.
It is a sad situation all around. But, the police were not wrong.

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If I were the parent, I would be upset at the boyfriend for excavating the situation that led to her death. Seems clear that her death is a result of his stupidity.

If the boyfriend was in the wrong and shot first, why wasn’t he charged with anything?

He was initially charged, then the charges were dropped.