Most Overrated High School Cluster

[Anonymous]

Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The county released SAT averages by HS and demographic cohort a few years ago. By using race as a proxy for SES differences you could get a more nuanced sense of how these schools stack up. For example, the SAT average for the largest cohort common to these schools was,

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173

It’s so eye-opening to realize things aren't always as they seem. The info is on page 8 at this link.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

I've seen you post this repeatedly on various threads over the years. Why should we be so interested in how the white students scored seven years ago?

Income impacts performance on standardized test scores. By using race as a proxy for SES we can get a better sense of how these schools stack up using an apples to apples comparison of students with similar SES. This report created by the county shows exactly that and it's clear that Blair with its 35% FARMS does as well as many of these wealthy schools with <5% FARMS when you factor for these demographic differences. Proving the same student can do as well (or better) at non-W schools.

I'm a DCC parent, and your final point may well be true. But relying on this increasingly obsolete data is strange. A lot has changed in the county and in MCPS between 2017 and 2024. Including Blair's FARMS rate which is now 42.7%. And WJ's is now 18.2%, Wootton's is 12.9%, Churchill's is 10.5%, and Wheaton's is 52.9%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

Of course boundaries are artificial. Unless each school is situated on its own island, the boundaries will remain artificial regardless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The county released SAT averages by HS and demographic cohort a few years ago. By using race as a proxy for SES differences you could get a more nuanced sense of how these schools stack up. For example, the SAT average for the largest cohort common to these schools was,

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173

It’s so eye-opening to realize things aren't always as they seem. The info is on page 8 at this link.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

I've seen you post this repeatedly on various threads over the years. Why should we be so interested in how the white students scored seven years ago?

Income impacts performance on standardized test scores. By using race as a proxy for SES we can get a better sense of how these schools stack up using an apples to apples comparison of students with similar SES. This report created by the county shows exactly that and it's clear that Blair with its 35% FARMS does as well as many of these wealthy schools with <5% FARMS when you factor for these demographic differences. Proving the same student can do as well (or better) at non-W schools.

I'm a DCC parent, and your final point may well be true. But relying on this increasingly obsolete data is strange. A lot has changed in the county and in MCPS between 2017 and 2024. Including Blair's FARMS rate which is now 42.7%. And WJ's is now 18.2%, Wootton's is 12.9%, Churchill's is 10.5%, and Wheaton's is 52.9%.

Not the PP but don't believe you're a DCC parent for a second and the data is only a couple of years old and is without a doubt still true. Those FARMS rates have only varied within a few points.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

Of course boundaries are artificial. Unless each school is situated on its own island, the boundaries will remain artificial regardless.

Yes, they were gerrymandered 50 years ago. Segregation was still a thing back then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

Of course boundaries are artificial. Unless each school is situated on its own island, the boundaries will remain artificial regardless.

Yes, they were gerrymandered 50 years ago. Segregation was still a thing back then.

Which specific areas of Bethesda and/or Potomac were gerrymandered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The county released SAT averages by HS and demographic cohort a few years ago. By using race as a proxy for SES differences you could get a more nuanced sense of how these schools stack up. For example, the SAT average for the largest cohort common to these schools was,

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173

It’s so eye-opening to realize things aren't always as they seem. The info is on page 8 at this link.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

I've seen you post this repeatedly on various threads over the years. Why should we be so interested in how the white students scored seven years ago?

Income impacts performance on standardized test scores. By using race as a proxy for SES we can get a better sense of how these schools stack up using an apples to apples comparison of students with similar SES. This report created by the county shows exactly that and it's clear that Blair with its 35% FARMS does as well as many of these wealthy schools with <5% FARMS when you factor for these demographic differences. Proving the same student can do as well (or better) at non-W schools.

I'm a DCC parent, and your final point may well be true. But relying on this increasingly obsolete data is strange. A lot has changed in the county and in MCPS between 2017 and 2024. Including Blair's FARMS rate which is now 42.7%. And WJ's is now 18.2%, Wootton's is 12.9%, Churchill's is 10.5%, and Wheaton's is 52.9%.

Not the PP but don't believe you're a DCC parent for a second and the data is only a couple of years old and is without a doubt still true. Those FARMS rates have only varied within a few points.

I don't believe you know the meanings of "a couple" and "a few."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The county released SAT averages by HS and demographic cohort a few years ago. By using race as a proxy for SES differences you could get a more nuanced sense of how these schools stack up. For example, the SAT average for the largest cohort common to these schools was,

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173

It’s so eye-opening to realize things aren't always as they seem. The info is on page 8 at this link.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

I've seen you post this repeatedly on various threads over the years. Why should we be so interested in how the white students scored seven years ago?

Income impacts performance on standardized test scores. By using race as a proxy for SES we can get a better sense of how these schools stack up using an apples to apples comparison of students with similar SES. This report created by the county shows exactly that and it's clear that Blair with its 35% FARMS does as well as many of these wealthy schools with <5% FARMS when you factor for these demographic differences. Proving the same student can do as well (or better) at non-W schools.

I'm a DCC parent, and your final point may well be true. But relying on this increasingly obsolete data is strange. A lot has changed in the county and in MCPS between 2017 and 2024. Including Blair's FARMS rate which is now 42.7%. And WJ's is now 18.2%, Wootton's is 12.9%, Churchill's is 10.5%, and Wheaton's is 52.9%.

Not the PP but don't believe you're a DCC parent for a second and the data is only a couple of years old and is without a doubt still true. Those FARMS rates have only varied within a few points.

I don't believe you know the meanings of "a couple" and "a few."

It seems like you're mad that the poster is using facts to make a fair point which you'd rather conceal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

Of course boundaries are artificial. Unless each school is situated on its own island, the boundaries will remain artificial regardless.

Yes, they were gerrymandered 50 years ago. Segregation was still a thing back then.

Which specific areas of Bethesda and/or Potomac were gerrymandered?

All of them. Just take a look at Wootton's boundary. Half the people assigned to it live closer to another school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

Of course boundaries are artificial. Unless each school is situated on its own island, the boundaries will remain artificial regardless.

Yes, they were gerrymandered 50 years ago. Segregation was still a thing back then.

Which specific areas of Bethesda and/or Potomac were gerrymandered?

All of them. Just take a look at Wootton's boundary. Half the people assigned to it live closer to another school.

"All of them"? Which areas assigned to Whitman are closer to other schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The county released SAT averages by HS and demographic cohort a few years ago. By using race as a proxy for SES differences you could get a more nuanced sense of how these schools stack up. For example, the SAT average for the largest cohort common to these schools was,

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173

It’s so eye-opening to realize things aren't always as they seem. The info is on page 8 at this link.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

I've seen you post this repeatedly on various threads over the years. Why should we be so interested in how the white students scored seven years ago?

Income impacts performance on standardized test scores. By using race as a proxy for SES we can get a better sense of how these schools stack up using an apples to apples comparison of students with similar SES. This report created by the county shows exactly that and it's clear that Blair with its 35% FARMS does as well as many of these wealthy schools with <5% FARMS when you factor for these demographic differences. Proving the same student can do as well (or better) at non-W schools.

I'm a DCC parent, and your final point may well be true. But relying on this increasingly obsolete data is strange. A lot has changed in the county and in MCPS between 2017 and 2024. Including Blair's FARMS rate which is now 42.7%. And WJ's is now 18.2%, Wootton's is 12.9%, Churchill's is 10.5%, and Wheaton's is 52.9%.

Not the PP but don't believe you're a DCC parent for a second and the data is only a couple of years old and is without a doubt still true. Those FARMS rates have only varied within a few points.

I don't believe you know the meanings of "a couple" and "a few."

It seems like you're mad that the poster is using facts to make a fair point which you'd rather conceal.

Not sure why you'd think that. In fact I agreed with their final point, but said they shouldn't rely on old data to make it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

Of course boundaries are artificial. Unless each school is situated on its own island, the boundaries will remain artificial regardless.

Yes, they were gerrymandered 50 years ago. Segregation was still a thing back then.

Which specific areas of Bethesda and/or Potomac were gerrymandered?

All of them. Just take a look at Wootton's boundary. Half the people assigned to it live closer to another school.

Preach! We should move all of them to the school they're geographically closer to. Oops, now nobody attends Wootton. If only I had the mental capacity to figure out what is going on here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

Of course boundaries are artificial. Unless each school is situated on its own island, the boundaries will remain artificial regardless.

Yes, they were gerrymandered 50 years ago. Segregation was still a thing back then.

Which specific areas of Bethesda and/or Potomac were gerrymandered?

All of them. Just take a look at Wootton's boundary. Half the people assigned to it live closer to another school.

Preach! We should move all of them to the school they're geographically closer to. Oops, now nobody attends Wootton. If only I had the mental capacity to figure out what is going on here.

That's easy. The boundary was gerrymandered to keep out poors when it was created back in the 70s or 80s. Segregation was still a thing back then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

RM and Wootton are less than 5 miles apart (2.7 miles).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a compass and draw about a 5 mile radius around every W school and see who really should go there. Boundaries are currenrly artificial based on political power.

Of course boundaries are artificial. Unless each school is situated on its own island, the boundaries will remain artificial regardless.

Yes, they were gerrymandered 50 years ago. Segregation was still a thing back then.

Which specific areas of Bethesda and/or Potomac were gerrymandered?

All of them. Just take a look at Wootton's boundary. Half the people assigned to it live closer to another school.

Preach! We should move all of them to the school they're geographically closer to. Oops, now nobody attends Wootton. If only I had the mental capacity to figure out what is going on here.

That's easy. The boundary was gerrymandered to keep out poors when it was created back in the 70s or 80s. Segregation was still a thing back then.

What exactly do you mean "that's easy"? What's easy?