White Folks Guide to Protesting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a white person who will be playing a support role in a march later today. Honestly people who write these lists have to keep it super simple and direct because white people will want to argue, negotiate, and "but what if" their way into positions of authority at every turn. In the training for the march I'll be part of the practical suggestions were-if you see a Black youth doing something you think will be dangerous to them or others, you alert organizers by text that you need a Black elder to step in and have that conversation. If you think the march should be going this way but not that or people should be shouting this but not that, too bad, you did not organize this and your role is to support. If you feel like things are totally off the rails, then back away and go home. My role is to support leadership and provide a buffer from police, if I don't feel comfortable with that then on one is making me be at the protest.

You lost me at your second sentence.

Really, you see no problem with committed black organizers planning a protest, setting out the routes/rules/goals and then having a random white woman start arguing with them that her "All Lives Matter" poster is perfectly appropriate, that they are losing the mainstream by using chants with curses in them, that it would be way better to go and shut down the highway rather than just march to the statehouse. These are all examples that I know of personally and are why these lists exist.

That's not what I said, but you do you. The solution is quite simple to this mass problem you've personally observed: thank the person for their interest in your cause and tell them you've got it covered. Just like you would anyone who gives you unsolicited advice.

Fair enough, do you want to elaborate what you meant by losing me at the 2nd sentence because I don't understand why you find that sentence unacceptable or incorrect.

Sure, as soon as you painted all white people with one brush you demonstrated that you're no better than those you're protesting against.

To be fair, there’s no evidence the author of the list kneeled on anyone’s neck for 9 minutes, so...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That list is ridiculous. Sure, let's fight racism with race-based procedures. We've been telling black people to sit in the back patiently and wait until their chance to talk. Eradicate that thinking and stop turning the tables for the sake of the cause. Racism is racism no matter what direction it goes and it's flat our WRONG.

I'm pretty much with you on this one. I'm white and my family is multi-racial and has been protesting. I want to be sensitive, but at the same time I'm not going to go along with directives that seem more divisive than helpful. It took me a while, but I spoke up against a social media meme yesterday that seemed to say all white people should feel guilty because a white person killed Martin Luther King.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a white person who will be playing a support role in a march later today. Honestly people who write these lists have to keep it super simple and direct because white people will want to argue, negotiate, and "but what if" their way into positions of authority at every turn. In the training for the march I'll be part of the practical suggestions were-if you see a Black youth doing something you think will be dangerous to them or others, you alert organizers by text that you need a Black elder to step in and have that conversation. If you think the march should be going this way but not that or people should be shouting this but not that, too bad, you did not organize this and your role is to support. If you feel like things are totally off the rails, then back away and go home. My role is to support leadership and provide a buffer from police, if I don't feel comfortable with that then on one is making me be at the protest.

You lost me at your second sentence.

Really, you see no problem with committed black organizers planning a protest, setting out the routes/rules/goals and then having a random white woman start arguing with them that her "All Lives Matter" poster is perfectly appropriate, that they are losing the mainstream by using chants with curses in them, that it would be way better to go and shut down the highway rather than just march to the statehouse. These are all examples that I know of personally and are why these lists exist.

That's not what I said, but you do you. The solution is quite simple to this mass problem you've personally observed: thank the person for their interest in your cause and tell them you've got it covered. Just like you would anyone who gives you unsolicited advice.

Fair enough, do you want to elaborate what you meant by losing me at the 2nd sentence because I don't understand why you find that sentence unacceptable or incorrect.

Sure, as soon as you painted all white people with one brush you demonstrated that you're no better than those you're protesting against.

To be fair, there’s no evidence the author of the list kneeled on anyone’s neck for 9 minutes, so...

You do appreciate that's a complete non sequitor, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Man, there is SOOOOOO much white privilege being offended in this thread, lolz!!!!

Translation: white people are making good points that don’t align with your SJW narrative. Stop being dismissive! If no one is allowed to talk or express an opinion because they are white, then there are not going to be a whole lot of white allies.

Stay home, Susan. We got this.

I will. You go and expose thousands of people to a deadly virus. What a hero!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That list is ridiculous. Sure, let's fight racism with race-based procedures. We've been telling black people to sit in the back patiently and wait until their chance to talk. Eradicate that thinking and stop turning the tables for the sake of the cause. Racism is racism no matter what direction it goes and it's flat our WRONG.

I'm pretty much with you on this one. I'm white and my family is multi-racial and has been protesting. I want to be sensitive, but at the same time I'm not going to go along with directives that seem more divisive than helpful. It took me a while, but I spoke up against a social media meme yesterday that seemed to say all white people should feel guilty because a white person killed Martin Luther King.

I am also white with a multi-racial family. I think that the list is fake and designed to get this reaction. That may sound conspiracy-theory ish but look at the “looters are coming to raid your exurban cup-de-sac messsages that spread like wildfire. Or maybe it’s written by a 19 year old with more passion than common sense. At any-rate use common sense, be respectful, and ignore social media nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White fragility response. Nailed it.

Yeah, I’m sure they will remember all of your little mean and silencing insults next time you ask them for sh!t.

[Anonymous]

I just don’t understand what kind of masochist wants to be involved with people who have this worldview. You don’t want my voice or my perspective, just my snacks and my cell phone footage?

That isn’t inspiring to me. You’re saying I’m a second class citizen in your movement. If you don’t want my voice, I’ll keep my voice, my phone, and my bottles of water at home.

There was a protest in WV that was boycotted by POC until the WW who had *done the work* of organizing handed the “title” of organizer over to a WOC who hadn’t done it. Wtf??

[Anonymous]

POC anti-racism advocates: White people, do the work!

White people: *does the work*

POC anti-racism advocates: SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP

take for example the women’s march, which was organized by white women who had their organization commandeered by opportunists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine posted this today. Has anyone else seen it. I am a liberal white woman but this list does not sit well with me and I am afraid to make a comment on her post.

White Folks Guide to Protesting

If you are a white person considering joining a protest this week, here is a list of rules put together for you. Friends of color, if they have forgotten anything, please add.

1, FOLLOW CALLS ONLY. Do not initiate or lead calls. Your job is to follow and add your voice when it is called for.
2. DO NOT TAKE SELFIES. Ask to take pictures or videos of individuals. You are there to witness only. Film the police as much as possible. Your goal is documentation to ensure that the true narrative is told.
3. BE HELPFUL. Hand out water and snacks. Make sure protest leaders are hydrated and fed. This is exhausting work, help keep their energy up.
4. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. If a black person tells you to do something, you do it immediately without question. You respect the authority and the decisions of the black protesters at all times.
5. STAY IN THE BACK UNTIL YOU ARE CALLED FORWARD. If you hear “White people to the front” or “Allies to the front” step forward and link arms with other white people to form a human shield.
6. WHEN YOU ARE AT THE FRONT, YOU ARE SILENT. Your job is to be a body. You are there to support only. The only voices on the police line should be black voices.
7. REMAIN CALM AT ALL TIMES. This is difficult. You will be emotional and your system will be flooded with adrenaline. Remember this is life and death for the protesters. Save your emotions for home. DO NOT AGITATE.
This is not a game. Joining a protest is a serious decision. Make sure you are there for the right reason. Support the safety of black protesters at all times.
Copied/pasted.

This is likely a greater problem than the list itself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:White fragility response. Nailed it.

Yeah, I’m sure they will remember all of your little mean and silencing insults next time you ask them for sh!t.

“They”? Really. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:POC anti-racism advocates: White people, do the work!

White people: *does the work*

POC anti-racism advocates: SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP

take for example the women’s march, which was organized by white women who had their organization commandeered by opportunists.

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine posted this today. Has anyone else seen it. I am a liberal white woman but this list does not sit well with me and I am afraid to make a comment on her post.

White Folks Guide to Protesting

If you are a white person considering joining a protest this week, here is a list of rules put together for you. Friends of color, if they have forgotten anything, please add.

1, FOLLOW CALLS ONLY. Do not initiate or lead calls. Your job is to follow and add your voice when it is called for.
2. DO NOT TAKE SELFIES. Ask to take pictures or videos of individuals. You are there to witness only. Film the police as much as possible. Your goal is documentation to ensure that the true narrative is told.
3. BE HELPFUL. Hand out water and snacks. Make sure protest leaders are hydrated and fed. This is exhausting work, help keep their energy up.
4. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. If a black person tells you to do something, you do it immediately without question. You respect the authority and the decisions of the black protesters at all times.
5. STAY IN THE BACK UNTIL YOU ARE CALLED FORWARD. If you hear “White people to the front” or “Allies to the front” step forward and link arms with other white people to form a human shield.
6. WHEN YOU ARE AT THE FRONT, YOU ARE SILENT. Your job is to be a body. You are there to support only. The only voices on the police line should be black voices.
7. REMAIN CALM AT ALL TIMES. This is difficult. You will be emotional and your system will be flooded with adrenaline. Remember this is life and death for the protesters. Save your emotions for home. DO NOT AGITATE.
This is not a game. Joining a protest is a serious decision. Make sure you are there for the right reason. Support the safety of black protesters at all times.
Copied/pasted.

This is likely a greater problem than the list itself.

+1000. If it gets to the point where white people who are genuinely appalled by the racism in this country are being attacked with the new epithet "white fragility" or "privilege" any time they open their mouths, they will stop doing so. It seems that a white person can't say anything right anymore.

[Anonymous]

Makes sense to me, within reason. If a black person tells me to do something absurd or more dangerous than I feel comfortable with, I can say no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But can I bring a little pillow for when I kneel for forgiveness for my race?

You are so self-centered if you think this about forgiveness for your race. It isn't about your race.

[Anonymous]

Why can't they take a selfie? That seems counterproductive.