White Folks Guide to Protesting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a white person who will be playing a support role in a march later today. Honestly people who write these lists have to keep it super simple and direct because white people will want to argue, negotiate, and "but what if" their way into positions of authority at every turn. In the training for the march I'll be part of the practical suggestions were-if you see a Black youth doing something you think will be dangerous to them or others, you alert organizers by text that you need a Black elder to step in and have that conversation. If you think the march should be going this way but not that or people should be shouting this but not that, too bad, you did not organize this and your role is to support. If you feel like things are totally off the rails, then back away and go home. My role is to support leadership and provide a buffer from police, if I don't feel comfortable with that then on one is making me be at the protest.

You lost me at your second sentence.

Really, you see no problem with committed black organizers planning a protest, setting out the routes/rules/goals and then having a random white woman start arguing with them that her "All Lives Matter" poster is perfectly appropriate, that they are losing the mainstream by using chants with curses in them, that it would be way better to go and shut down the highway rather than just march to the statehouse. These are all examples that I know of personally and are why these lists exist.

That's not what I said, but you do you. The solution is quite simple to this mass problem you've personally observed: thank the person for their interest in your cause and tell them you've got it covered. Just like you would anyone who gives you unsolicited advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a white person who will be playing a support role in a march later today. Honestly people who write these lists have to keep it super simple and direct because white people will want to argue, negotiate, and "but what if" their way into positions of authority at every turn. In the training for the march I'll be part of the practical suggestions were-if you see a Black youth doing something you think will be dangerous to them or others, you alert organizers by text that you need a Black elder to step in and have that conversation. If you think the march should be going this way but not that or people should be shouting this but not that, too bad, you did not organize this and your role is to support. If you feel like things are totally off the rails, then back away and go home. My role is to support leadership and provide a buffer from police, if I don't feel comfortable with that then on one is making me be at the protest.

You lost me at your second sentence.

Really, you see no problem with committed black organizers planning a protest, setting out the routes/rules/goals and then having a random white woman start arguing with them that her "All Lives Matter" poster is perfectly appropriate, that they are losing the mainstream by using chants with curses in them, that it would be way better to go and shut down the highway rather than just march to the statehouse. These are all examples that I know of personally and are why these lists exist.

That's not what I said, but you do you. The solution is quite simple to this mass problem you've personally observed: thank the person for their interest in your cause and tell them you've got it covered. Just like you would anyone who gives you unsolicited advice.

Fair enough, do you want to elaborate what you meant by losing me at the 2nd sentence because I don't understand why you find that sentence unacceptable or incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Found it.
http://www.skeletonrep.org/blm-resources.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine posted this today. Has anyone else seen it. I am a liberal white woman but this list does not sit well with me and I am afraid to make a comment on her post.

White Folks Guide to Protesting

If you are a white person considering joining a protest this week, here is a list of rules put together for you. Friends of color, if they have forgotten anything, please add.

1, FOLLOW CALLS ONLY. Do not initiate or lead calls. Your job is to follow and add your voice when it is called for.
2. DO NOT TAKE SELFIES. Ask to take pictures or videos of individuals. You are there to witness only. Film the police as much as possible. Your goal is documentation to ensure that the true narrative is told.
3. BE HELPFUL. Hand out water and snacks. Make sure protest leaders are hydrated and fed. This is exhausting work, help keep their energy up.
4. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. If a black person tells you to do something, you do it immediately without question. You respect the authority and the decisions of the black protesters at all times.
5. STAY IN THE BACK UNTIL YOU ARE CALLED FORWARD. If you hear “White people to the front” or “Allies to the front” step forward and link arms with other white people to form a human shield.
6. WHEN YOU ARE AT THE FRONT, YOU ARE SILENT. Your job is to be a body. You are there to support only. The only voices on the police line should be black voices.
7. REMAIN CALM AT ALL TIMES. This is difficult. You will be emotional and your system will be flooded with adrenaline. Remember this is life and death for the protesters. Save your emotions for home. DO NOT AGITATE.
This is not a game. Joining a protest is a serious decision. Make sure you are there for the right reason. Support the safety of black protesters at all times.
Copied/pasted.

No thank you to everything in bold. I'm a human being capable of my own thoughts, decisions and actions. If you don't like it, I'm out.

+1. People are losing their minds over this sh!t.

I disagree. Except for 4, which is so extreme it is ridiculous, replace "black" with "women" and "white" with "men". If you are a man at a women's march, it's painfully ridiculous if you start showcasing yourself as a leader. You aren't. There are already leaders. Listen to them.

Also, if you are on social media at all you can see that some white people use the march as a background for selfies to show how deep and woke they are. I'm sure it can be helpful to have white people create a barrier. But how annoying to suddenly have white people rushing to the front at unnecessary times in a show of self importance. Also not helpful to have white people go to the front and yell threatening things at the cops, even if they are asked to be there.

Just follow directions. Or stay home and support the movement in other ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine posted this today. Has anyone else seen it. I am a liberal white woman but this list does not sit well with me and I am afraid to make a comment on her post.

White Folks Guide to Protesting

If you are a white person considering joining a protest this week, here is a list of rules put together for you. Friends of color, if they have forgotten anything, please add.

1, FOLLOW CALLS ONLY. Do not initiate or lead calls. Your job is to follow and add your voice when it is called for.
2. DO NOT TAKE SELFIES. Ask to take pictures or videos of individuals. You are there to witness only. Film the police as much as possible. Your goal is documentation to ensure that the true narrative is told.
3. BE HELPFUL. Hand out water and snacks. Make sure protest leaders are hydrated and fed. This is exhausting work, help keep their energy up.
4. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. If a black person tells you to do something, you do it immediately without question. You respect the authority and the decisions of the black protesters at all times.
5. STAY IN THE BACK UNTIL YOU ARE CALLED FORWARD. If you hear “White people to the front” or “Allies to the front” step forward and link arms with other white people to form a human shield.
6. WHEN YOU ARE AT THE FRONT, YOU ARE SILENT. Your job is to be a body. You are there to support only. The only voices on the police line should be black voices.
7. REMAIN CALM AT ALL TIMES. This is difficult. You will be emotional and your system will be flooded with adrenaline. Remember this is life and death for the protesters. Save your emotions for home. DO NOT AGITATE.
This is not a game. Joining a protest is a serious decision. Make sure you are there for the right reason. Support the safety of black protesters at all times.
Copied/pasted.

No thank you to everything in bold. I'm a human being capable of my own thoughts, decisions and actions. If you don't like it, I'm out.

+1. People are losing their minds over this sh!t.

I disagree. Except for 4, which is so extreme it is ridiculous, replace "black" with "women" and "white" with "men". If you are a man at a women's march, it's painfully ridiculous if you start showcasing yourself as a leader. You aren't. There are already leaders. Listen to them.

Also, if you are on social media at all you can see that some white people use the march as a background for selfies to show how deep and woke they are. I'm sure it can be helpful to have white people create a barrier. But how annoying to suddenly have white people rushing to the front at unnecessary times in a show of self importance. Also not helpful to have white people go to the front and yell threatening things at the cops, even if they are asked to be there.

Just follow directions. Or stay home and support the movement in other ways.

Oh, and as for 4 you can just inject a little common sense into that one. Follow directions from black people if those directions seem reasonable. If not following all directions seems to cause a problem, go home. Done.

[Anonymous]

^exactly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Protesting is a colossal waste of time and attractive to narcissistic personalities.

Also, nice littering! Waded through your water bottles, trash and posters on my way to work today.

+100. Destroying the earth for the cause. What trash-the people, not the actual trash

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protesting is a colossal waste of time and attractive to narcissistic personalities.

Also, nice littering! Waded through your water bottles, trash and posters on my way to work today.

+100. Destroying the earth for the cause. What trash-the people, not the actual trash

And likely infecting millions with COVID and killing thousands, including many black people. It is amazing how reactive, short sighted, and illogical Americans are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine posted this today. Has anyone else seen it. I am a liberal white woman but this list does not sit well with me and I am afraid to make a comment on her post.

White Folks Guide to Protesting

If you are a white person considering joining a protest this week, here is a list of rules put together for you. Friends of color, if they have forgotten anything, please add.

1, FOLLOW CALLS ONLY. Do not initiate or lead calls. Your job is to follow and add your voice when it is called for.
2. DO NOT TAKE SELFIES. Ask to take pictures or videos of individuals. You are there to witness only. Film the police as much as possible. Your goal is documentation to ensure that the true narrative is told.
3. BE HELPFUL. Hand out water and snacks. Make sure protest leaders are hydrated and fed. This is exhausting work, help keep their energy up.
4. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. If a black person tells you to do something, you do it immediately without question. You respect the authority and the decisions of the black protesters at all times.
5. STAY IN THE BACK UNTIL YOU ARE CALLED FORWARD. If you hear “White people to the front” or “Allies to the front” step forward and link arms with other white people to form a human shield.
6. WHEN YOU ARE AT THE FRONT, YOU ARE SILENT. Your job is to be a body. You are there to support only. The only voices on the police line should be black voices.
7. REMAIN CALM AT ALL TIMES. This is difficult. You will be emotional and your system will be flooded with adrenaline. Remember this is life and death for the protesters. Save your emotions for home. DO NOT AGITATE.
This is not a game. Joining a protest is a serious decision. Make sure you are there for the right reason. Support the safety of black protesters at all times.
Copied/pasted.

No thank you to everything in bold. I'm a human being capable of my own thoughts, decisions and actions. If you don't like it, I'm out.

+1. People are losing their minds over this sh!t.

I disagree. Except for 4, which is so extreme it is ridiculous, replace "black" with "women" and "white" with "men". If you are a man at a women's march, it's painfully ridiculous if you start showcasing yourself as a leader. You aren't. There are already leaders. Listen to them.

Also, if you are on social media at all you can see that some white people use the march as a background for selfies to show how deep and woke they are. I'm sure it can be helpful to have white people create a barrier. But how annoying to suddenly have white people rushing to the front at unnecessary times in a show of self importance. Also not helpful to have white people go to the front and yell threatening things at the cops, even if they are asked to be there.

Just follow directions. Or stay home and support the movement in other ways.

Oh, and as for 4 you can just inject a little common sense into that one. Follow directions from black people if those directions seem reasonable. If not following all directions seems to cause a problem, go home. Done.

Then it should have been written that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine posted this today. Has anyone else seen it. I am a liberal white woman but this list does not sit well with me and I am afraid to make a comment on her post.

White Folks Guide to Protesting

If you are a white person considering joining a protest this week, here is a list of rules put together for you. Friends of color, if they have forgotten anything, please add.

1, FOLLOW CALLS ONLY. Do not initiate or lead calls. Your job is to follow and add your voice when it is called for.
2. DO NOT TAKE SELFIES. Ask to take pictures or videos of individuals. You are there to witness only. Film the police as much as possible. Your goal is documentation to ensure that the true narrative is told.
3. BE HELPFUL. Hand out water and snacks. Make sure protest leaders are hydrated and fed. This is exhausting work, help keep their energy up.
4. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. If a black person tells you to do something, you do it immediately without question. You respect the authority and the decisions of the black protesters at all times.
5. STAY IN THE BACK UNTIL YOU ARE CALLED FORWARD. If you hear “White people to the front” or “Allies to the front” step forward and link arms with other white people to form a human shield.
6. WHEN YOU ARE AT THE FRONT, YOU ARE SILENT. Your job is to be a body. You are there to support only. The only voices on the police line should be black voices.
7. REMAIN CALM AT ALL TIMES. This is difficult. You will be emotional and your system will be flooded with adrenaline. Remember this is life and death for the protesters. Save your emotions for home. DO NOT AGITATE.
This is not a game. Joining a protest is a serious decision. Make sure you are there for the right reason. Support the safety of black protesters at all times.
Copied/pasted.

No thank you to everything in bold. I'm a human being capable of my own thoughts, decisions and actions. If you don't like it, I'm out.

+1. People are losing their minds over this sh!t.

I disagree. Except for 4, which is so extreme it is ridiculous, replace "black" with "women" and "white" with "men". If you are a man at a women's march, it's painfully ridiculous if you start showcasing yourself as a leader. You aren't. There are already leaders. Listen to them.

Also, if you are on social media at all you can see that some white people use the march as a background for selfies to show how deep and woke they are. I'm sure it can be helpful to have white people create a barrier. But how annoying to suddenly have white people rushing to the front at unnecessary times in a show of self importance. Also not helpful to have white people go to the front and yell threatening things at the cops, even if they are asked to be there.

Just follow directions. Or stay home and support the movement in other ways.

Oh, and as for 4 you can just inject a little common sense into that one. Follow directions from black people if those directions seem reasonable. If not following all directions seems to cause a problem, go home. Done.

Then it should have been written that way.

It is if you read for comprehension and not reaction.

[Anonymous]

That list is ridiculous. Sure, let's fight racism with race-based procedures. We've been telling black people to sit in the back patiently and wait until their chance to talk. Eradicate that thinking and stop turning the tables for the sake of the cause. Racism is racism no matter what direction it goes and it's flat our WRONG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, there is SOOOOOO much white privilege being offended in this thread, lolz!!!!

Translation: white people are making good points that don’t align with your SJW narrative. Stop being dismissive! If no one is allowed to talk or express an opinion because they are white, then there are not going to be a whole lot of white allies.

Stay home, Susan. We got this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, there is SOOOOOO much white privilege being offended in this thread, lolz!!!!

You mean white fragility.

Go ahead and keep alienating everyone tho. Sure it’ll end well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a white person who will be playing a support role in a march later today. Honestly people who write these lists have to keep it super simple and direct because white people will want to argue, negotiate, and "but what if" their way into positions of authority at every turn. In the training for the march I'll be part of the practical suggestions were-if you see a Black youth doing something you think will be dangerous to them or others, you alert organizers by text that you need a Black elder to step in and have that conversation. If you think the march should be going this way but not that or people should be shouting this but not that, too bad, you did not organize this and your role is to support. If you feel like things are totally off the rails, then back away and go home. My role is to support leadership and provide a buffer from police, if I don't feel comfortable with that then on one is making me be at the protest.

You lost me at your second sentence.

Really, you see no problem with committed black organizers planning a protest, setting out the routes/rules/goals and then having a random white woman start arguing with them that her "All Lives Matter" poster is perfectly appropriate, that they are losing the mainstream by using chants with curses in them, that it would be way better to go and shut down the highway rather than just march to the statehouse. These are all examples that I know of personally and are why these lists exist.

That's not what I said, but you do you. The solution is quite simple to this mass problem you've personally observed: thank the person for their interest in your cause and tell them you've got it covered. Just like you would anyone who gives you unsolicited advice.

Fair enough, do you want to elaborate what you meant by losing me at the 2nd sentence because I don't understand why you find that sentence unacceptable or incorrect.

Sure, as soon as you painted all white people with one brush you demonstrated that you're no better than those you're protesting against.

[Anonymous]

White fragility response. Nailed it.