Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Summer swim is primarily a social activity (for both kids and parents). I get the summer teams who want to hold practices for both physical exercise for the kids and to improve technique. Those who also want to host rogue summer meets have lost their minds. Kids are in it for socializing....pep rallies, cheers, summer movies, etc. Aside from a small minority on each team, they really aren't in it for the actual meet itself. Anyone who thinks a rogue summer meet is going to be remotely similar to what the kids are used to is borderline delusional.

No has said that the meets will be the same. Some teams in our league are considering one age group at a time, no spectators. Any kids not in it for the meet itself is free to opt out. Why they would sign up for the team this season is unclear if they aren’t interested, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I serve on the Board of my private NoVA pool and we are likely going to remain closed. The membership hasn’t committed to joining with the expected regulations (social distance, etc) and even in Phase 2, there isn’t a likely expected profit.

That said... we are getting requests from the local year round swim and five teams for use of our pool. (I’m sure we’re not the only pool.)
I am very curious about the summer plans for these swim groups (Makos, college dive teams, etc)

I am also on a private NOVA pool board. We plan on opening for lap swim on May 29 (or as soon as possible). About 80% of our permanent bond memberships have paid. Financially that leaves us on edge as we will lose this summer on guest fees, temporary memberships and new bond membership sales. Being closed this first week will reduce our management contract slightly. Being open for lap swim results in a reduction, but less so. It's tough because the state has not been very forthcoming with the rules and the rules we have seem very arbitrary to those imposed on restaurants, beaches and brick and mortar businesses.

We briefly debated not opening under Phase 1, but came to the unanimous consensus that we will. Everything is in place to do so and when weighing the option of offering something vs. nothing we went with something. Either way the pools are cleaned and operational and we have bills to pay. There are other nearby pools that are not opening until at least Phase 2 or have decided to not open at all. In the last day we have had some inquiries and new members join from those clubs, particularly those with swimmers looking for lap swim.

We have seen the requests by club teams to rent lanes. We are considering that, but for various reasons and concerns have not jumped at it. We are exploring that option.

Wow, I wish we could chat. I am the PP on the Board whose pool hasn’t yet decided to open in Phase 2. We consider our long term financial solvency also, but it’s all the opening status rules regs that are holding back the Board right now. I do wonder about offering up the lanes to swim teams, etc but that still requires the Board and lifeguards to perform so many new tasks. I feel for the teen lifeguards who have to manage potentially fussy adults.
I wish you good luck next week as you open and I hope you will report back a successful opening.
I have an idealist and I wish I could go to the pool like normal with my family, but I also know that our membership is a little demanding and spoiled, thinking that our private pool is a country club. I just don’t know how trustworthy they would be about social distancing, respecting staff, cleaning up their own trash, etc.

Our swim team is one of the ones renting. Coaches are required to get life guard certification so local pool does not need to supply. Also, one Coach is cleaning etc between groups.

[Anonymous]

How are you dealing with the logistics of just six kids at a time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are you dealing with the logistics of just six kids at a time?

25 minutes at a time.

To address above, it’s time to get back to normal. If we can’t have kids outside on the same pool deck then we have no chance of school happening again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I serve on the Board of my private NoVA pool and we are likely going to remain closed. The membership hasn’t committed to joining with the expected regulations (social distance, etc) and even in Phase 2, there isn’t a likely expected profit.

That said... we are getting requests from the local year round swim and five teams for use of our pool. (I’m sure we’re not the only pool.)
I am very curious about the summer plans for these swim groups (Makos, college dive teams, etc)

I am also on a private NOVA pool board. We plan on opening for lap swim on May 29 (or as soon as possible). About 80% of our permanent bond memberships have paid. Financially that leaves us on edge as we will lose this summer on guest fees, temporary memberships and new bond membership sales. Being closed this first week will reduce our management contract slightly. Being open for lap swim results in a reduction, but less so. It's tough because the state has not been very forthcoming with the rules and the rules we have seem very arbitrary to those imposed on restaurants, beaches and brick and mortar businesses.

We briefly debated not opening under Phase 1, but came to the unanimous consensus that we will. Everything is in place to do so and when weighing the option of offering something vs. nothing we went with something. Either way the pools are cleaned and operational and we have bills to pay. There are other nearby pools that are not opening until at least Phase 2 or have decided to not open at all. In the last day we have had some inquiries and new members join from those clubs, particularly those with swimmers looking for lap swim.

We have seen the requests by club teams to rent lanes. We are considering that, but for various reasons and concerns have not jumped at it. We are exploring that option.

Wow, I wish we could chat. I am the PP on the Board whose pool hasn’t yet decided to open in Phase 2. We consider our long term financial solvency also, but it’s all the opening status rules regs that are holding back the Board right now. I do wonder about offering up the lanes to swim teams, etc but that still requires the Board and lifeguards to perform so many new tasks. I feel for the teen lifeguards who have to manage potentially fussy adults.
I wish you good luck next week as you open and I hope you will report back a successful opening.
I have an idealist and I wish I could go to the pool like normal with my family, but I also know that our membership is a little demanding and spoiled, thinking that our private pool is a country club. I just don’t know how trustworthy they would be about social distancing, respecting staff, cleaning up their own trash, etc.

PP other board member here. I can check in fairly frequently and “chat”. Our child actually manages our pool this summer. Our membership is actually not very demanding at all.

another pool board member, whose pool is most likely opening. We were going to have to charge pool members so much to 'not' open (we have a large mortgage) that it makes more sense to open. Either way we are going to end up badly hurting our reserves/ needing to raise dues in the future. It is super frustrating. If you are not part of the NVSL Pool President's group I strongly recommend joining it.

10:17 here. We decided to open for lap swim because it will be something we can offer our members. More members would probably complain if we didn't open vs those who might complain that we are. Nearby clubs are opening for lap swim, so what would our members say if we remained closed and the others were open?

Our pool has been clean and operational since late April. Being ready to open for lap swim allows us to work through this process for a week or two before moving into Phase 2. We are already paying for water, electricity, chemicals, pool manager,upgrades over the past few years and staying closed for a week or two of Phase 1 does not save us that much off of our contract. Staying closed probably wasn't going to entice any more permanent members to pay. Opening for lap swim did gain us three new memberships, two of which are coming from nearby clubs that are not opening for Phase 1.

Approximately 80% of our bond membership has paid, but associate memberships are way down (we currently have 5). That combination currently leaves us ~$30k or so short budget wise for membership. We also won't have income from guest fees. We have told membership we will refund dues depending on income vs expenses, but if 20% of the bond dues remain unpaid there won't be money to refund.

We are active in the NOVA Pools group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I serve on the Board of my private NoVA pool and we are likely going to remain closed. The membership hasn’t committed to joining with the expected regulations (social distance, etc) and even in Phase 2, there isn’t a likely expected profit.

That said... we are getting requests from the local year round swim and five teams for use of our pool. (I’m sure we’re not the only pool.)
I am very curious about the summer plans for these swim groups (Makos, college dive teams, etc)

I am also on a private NOVA pool board. We plan on opening for lap swim on May 29 (or as soon as possible). About 80% of our permanent bond memberships have paid. Financially that leaves us on edge as we will lose this summer on guest fees, temporary memberships and new bond membership sales. Being closed this first week will reduce our management contract slightly. Being open for lap swim results in a reduction, but less so. It's tough because the state has not been very forthcoming with the rules and the rules we have seem very arbitrary to those imposed on restaurants, beaches and brick and mortar businesses.

We briefly debated not opening under Phase 1, but came to the unanimous consensus that we will. Everything is in place to do so and when weighing the option of offering something vs. nothing we went with something. Either way the pools are cleaned and operational and we have bills to pay. There are other nearby pools that are not opening until at least Phase 2 or have decided to not open at all. In the last day we have had some inquiries and new members join from those clubs, particularly those with swimmers looking for lap swim.

We have seen the requests by club teams to rent lanes. We are considering that, but for various reasons and concerns have not jumped at it. We are exploring that option.

Wow, I wish we could chat. I am the PP on the Board whose pool hasn’t yet decided to open in Phase 2. We consider our long term financial solvency also, but it’s all the opening status rules regs that are holding back the Board right now. I do wonder about offering up the lanes to swim teams, etc but that still requires the Board and lifeguards to perform so many new tasks. I feel for the teen lifeguards who have to manage potentially fussy adults.
I wish you good luck next week as you open and I hope you will report back a successful opening.
I have an idealist and I wish I could go to the pool like normal with my family, but I also know that our membership is a little demanding and spoiled, thinking that our private pool is a country club. I just don’t know how trustworthy they would be about social distancing, respecting staff, cleaning up their own trash, etc.

Our swim team is one of the ones renting. Coaches are required to get life guard certification so local pool does not need to supply. Also, one Coach is cleaning etc between groups.

Can you share how much they are paying? We are considering, but one concern is the time of day they might want to use the pool. We wouldn't be willing to reserve earlier than probably about 7:30 a.m.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I serve on the Board of my private NoVA pool and we are likely going to remain closed. The membership hasn’t committed to joining with the expected regulations (social distance, etc) and even in Phase 2, there isn’t a likely expected profit.

That said... we are getting requests from the local year round swim and five teams for use of our pool. (I’m sure we’re not the only pool.)
I am very curious about the summer plans for these swim groups (Makos, college dive teams, etc)

I am also on a private NOVA pool board. We plan on opening for lap swim on May 29 (or as soon as possible). About 80% of our permanent bond memberships have paid. Financially that leaves us on edge as we will lose this summer on guest fees, temporary memberships and new bond membership sales. Being closed this first week will reduce our management contract slightly. Being open for lap swim results in a reduction, but less so. It's tough because the state has not been very forthcoming with the rules and the rules we have seem very arbitrary to those imposed on restaurants, beaches and brick and mortar businesses.

We briefly debated not opening under Phase 1, but came to the unanimous consensus that we will. Everything is in place to do so and when weighing the option of offering something vs. nothing we went with something. Either way the pools are cleaned and operational and we have bills to pay. There are other nearby pools that are not opening until at least Phase 2 or have decided to not open at all. In the last day we have had some inquiries and new members join from those clubs, particularly those with swimmers looking for lap swim.

We have seen the requests by club teams to rent lanes. We are considering that, but for various reasons and concerns have not jumped at it. We are exploring that option.

Wow, I wish we could chat. I am the PP on the Board whose pool hasn’t yet decided to open in Phase 2. We consider our long term financial solvency also, but it’s all the opening status rules regs that are holding back the Board right now. I do wonder about offering up the lanes to swim teams, etc but that still requires the Board and lifeguards to perform so many new tasks. I feel for the teen lifeguards who have to manage potentially fussy adults.
I wish you good luck next week as you open and I hope you will report back a successful opening.
I have an idealist and I wish I could go to the pool like normal with my family, but I also know that our membership is a little demanding and spoiled, thinking that our private pool is a country club. I just don’t know how trustworthy they would be about social distancing, respecting staff, cleaning up their own trash, etc.

PP other board member here. I can check in fairly frequently and “chat”. Our child actually manages our pool this summer. Our membership is actually not very demanding at all.

another pool board member, whose pool is most likely opening. We were going to have to charge pool members so much to 'not' open (we have a large mortgage) that it makes more sense to open. Either way we are going to end up badly hurting our reserves/ needing to raise dues in the future. It is super frustrating. If you are not part of the NVSL Pool President's group I strongly recommend joining it.

10:17 here. We decided to open for lap swim because it will be something we can offer our members. More members would probably complain if we didn't open vs those who might complain that we are. Nearby clubs are opening for lap swim, so what would our members say if we remained closed and the others were open?

Our pool has been clean and operational since late April. Being ready to open for lap swim allows us to work through this process for a week or two before moving into Phase 2. We are already paying for water, electricity, chemicals, pool manager,upgrades over the past few years and staying closed for a week or two of Phase 1 does not save us that much off of our contract. Staying closed probably wasn't going to entice any more permanent members to pay. Opening for lap swim did gain us three new memberships, two of which are coming from nearby clubs that are not opening for Phase 1.

Approximately 80% of our bond membership has paid, but associate memberships are way down (we currently have 5). That combination currently leaves us ~$30k or so short budget wise for membership. We also won't have income from guest fees. We have told membership we will refund dues depending on income vs expenses, but if 20% of the bond dues remain unpaid there won't be money to refund.

We are active in the NOVA Pools group.

PP here. If anyone is so inclined, you may want to email your VA delegate your thoughts about swim clubs and how they can be well managed, safe places to be in the summer. IMO they are similar to restaurants in that they can reduce capacity through a reservation system. Through a reservation system spaces on the deck and within the pool can be reserved to preserve social distancing. Unlike a beach, which has people arriving from who knows where, a pool is restricted to members only and again, that capacity can be controlled. In a meeting I was in on Wednesday, there were local delegates who seemed to be very interested in what we had to say. I am afraid some who set the rules for Phase 1 and are working now on them for Phase 2 picture pools as places where 100s of people are gathering on top of each other and I submit that's not the case and won't have a chance to be with mitigation we put into place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pools that are opening in Phase 1:
Can you share how you are handling the sign-up slots for swimmers?
Pls give details. As in, when and how many spots are members given?

We have a reservation grid built into our membership system/website. It was developed for us back in early March just in case this might be needed. Each swimmer can sign up for one slot per day. The slots run for an hour starting at the top of the hour, but the actual swim time will amount to about 45 minutes to give time for them to clear and let the next group in. So if 3 in a family want to swim laps, each person in that family can sign up for one block of lap swim.

Our grid also allows us to set it up so memberships can reserve tables and sections of the pool. We have it basically ready so if [i]we are allowed that in Phase 2 we can pivot fairly quickly. Lap swim also gets membership better used to the idea of having to reserve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be irate if our hoa pool was open to year round swim teams but closed for the neighborhood. Or if the year round swim teams were using more than one person per lane if the neighborhood people could not. Etc etc. It would be a headache for a pool board to deal with.

Board member here that previously posted. We open for lap swim tomorrow. We only are considering if the club team can practice outside of our regular operating hours. As others mention they still have to adhere to the one person per lane rule.

We opened up our lane reservation system this evening and most (not all) of the available lanes filled up quite quickly for Friday. Saturday and Sunday I'll have to look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pools that are opening in Phase 1:
Can you share how you are handling the sign-up slots for swimmers?
Pls give details. As in, when and how many spots are members given?

We have a reservation grid built into our membership system/website. It was developed for us back in early March just in case this might be needed. Each swimmer can sign up for one slot per day. The slots run for an hour starting at the top of the hour, but the actual swim time will amount to about 45 minutes to give time for them to clear and let the next group in. So if 3 in a family want to swim laps, each person in that family can sign up for one block of lap swim.

Our grid also allows us to set it up so memberships can reserve tables and sections of the pool. We have it basically ready so if [i]we are allowed that in Phase 2 we can pivot fairly quickly. Lap swim also gets membership better used to the idea of having to reserve.

PP
We use this: https://pooldues.com/how-the-coronavirus-may-affect-your-swim-and-tennis-club/

[Anonymous]

Our pool just announced that is opening next Saturday for lap swimming only for now. All building access is closed. The cafe will offer select menu in the coming weeks. Isn't

Also, no use of bathrooms while at the pool. WTF?!

Isn't this a health issue in and of itself? Everyone will be peeing in the pool. Everyone. Absolutely disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Our pool board apparently voted not to open unless they can operate normally or close to normally, which means phase 3. So, at this rate it won’t be opening at all. They haven’t yet addressed refunds or partial refunds.

I wish they would open for lap swim, at least. It’s annoying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our pool just announced that is opening next Saturday for lap swimming only for now. All building access is closed. The cafe will offer select menu in the coming weeks. Isn't

Also, no use of bathrooms while at the pool. WTF?!

Isn't this a health issue in and of itself? Everyone will be peeing in the pool. Everyone. Absolutely disgusting.

We are allowing bathroom use for “emergencies”. Only one per time but we have only one per lane anyhow so not an issue. We opened today and everything has been going super smoothly. Quite a relief actually. Everyone seems super appreciative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our pool just announced that is opening next Saturday for lap swimming only for now. All building access is closed. The cafe will offer select menu in the coming weeks. Isn't

Also, no use of bathrooms while at the pool. WTF?!

Isn't this a health issue in and of itself? Everyone will be peeing in the pool. Everyone. Absolutely disgusting.

Really? You can’t go 45 minutes without peeing? I think you need to see a specialist about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our pool just announced that is opening next Saturday for lap swimming only for now. All building access is closed. The cafe will offer select menu in the coming weeks. Isn't

Also, no use of bathrooms while at the pool. WTF?!

Isn't this a health issue in and of itself? Everyone will be peeing in the pool. Everyone. Absolutely disgusting.

Seriously? If you can’t hold it for an hour of lap swimming you shouldn’t be at the pool.