ICC Futures

[Anonymous]

Can we talk about PDA's opening kickoff? It looked like an NFL kickoff. What the hell is that? That's taking ceding possession to a whole new level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about PDA's opening kickoff? It looked like an NFL kickoff. What the hell is that? That's taking ceding possession to a whole new level.

Yes, and Barca scored within the first two minutes based off of that. SMH

But we can't talk about htat because that would be Pro Barca propaganda even though PDA kicked off that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about PDA's opening kickoff? It looked like an NFL kickoff. What the hell is that? That's taking ceding possession to a whole new level.

Yeah, well some will try to argue PDA was "breaking the lines" .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about PDA's opening kickoff? It looked like an NFL kickoff. What the hell is that? That's taking ceding possession to a whole new level.

Yeah, well some will try to argue PDA was "breaking the lines" .

LOL, with such surgical precision too. LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone else stated earlier, another veiled Barca Academy advertisement thread. They are becoming so obvious it’s pathetic.

Nailed it early on page 2—impressive!!

Yes. It’s amazing how fanatical and machine like the advertising wing is here. I guess things must be looking down over there and they need new business. I know a number of good families who have left due to dissatisfaction with the environment and favoritism there.

Again, only you bringing it up.

DP. Who cares? It seems a lot more valuable feedback on the local option then you and your partners feedback that people should enroll because of a Spanish teams success in one game against PDA.

And it is obvious what you are doing. In this discussion and beyond. You aren’t as clever as you think you are.

No matter how much you want to make this about a small local soccer club the real discussion is about how effective will American style soccer be moving forward as nations like Spain developing kids every bit as athletic as ours?

The PDA game was certainly just one data point but it should not be ignored or dismissed either. PDA did not have a athletic advantage over Barca, so moving forward, assuming European nations will draw more athletic girls into the sport how will we adapt?

Why not stick to that as a topic and stop worrying about some bogeyman at Evergreen.

It’s like most of the girls selected for the “top” in the DMV can not play soccer that way. First touch, passing with one or two touches, building and probing while maintaining possession that is not the travel game. Long balls to fast forward that’s the present and future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone else stated earlier, another veiled Barca Academy advertisement thread. They are becoming so obvious it’s pathetic.

Nailed it early on page 2—impressive!!

Yes. It’s amazing how fanatical and machine like the advertising wing is here. I guess things must be looking down over there and they need new business. I know a number of good families who have left due to dissatisfaction with the environment and favoritism there.

Again, only you bringing it up.

DP. Who cares? It seems a lot more valuable feedback on the local option then you and your partners feedback that people should enroll because of a Spanish teams success in one game against PDA.

And it is obvious what you are doing. In this discussion and beyond. You aren’t as clever as you think you are.

No matter how much you want to make this about a small local soccer club the real discussion is about how effective will American style soccer be moving forward as nations like Spain developing kids every bit as athletic as ours?

The PDA game was certainly just one data point but it should not be ignored or dismissed either. PDA did not have a athletic advantage over Barca, so moving forward, assuming European nations will draw more athletic girls into the sport how will we adapt?

Why not stick to that as a topic and stop worrying about some bogeyman at Evergreen.

It’s like most of the girls selected for the “top” in the DMV can not play soccer that way. First touch, passing with one or two touches, building and probing while maintaining possession that is not the travel game. Long balls to fast forward that’s the present and future.

To claim that it can't be taught is both stubborn and condescending.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone else stated earlier, another veiled Barca Academy advertisement thread. They are becoming so obvious it’s pathetic.

Nailed it early on page 2—impressive!!

Yes. It’s amazing how fanatical and machine like the advertising wing is here. I guess things must be looking down over there and they need new business. I know a number of good families who have left due to dissatisfaction with the environment and favoritism there.

Again, only you bringing it up.

DP. Who cares? It seems a lot more valuable feedback on the local option then you and your partners feedback that people should enroll because of a Spanish teams success in one game against PDA.

And it is obvious what you are doing. In this discussion and beyond. You aren’t as clever as you think you are.

No matter how much you want to make this about a small local soccer club the real discussion is about how effective will American style soccer be moving forward as nations like Spain developing kids every bit as athletic as ours?

The PDA game was certainly just one data point but it should not be ignored or dismissed either. PDA did not have a athletic advantage over Barca, so moving forward, assuming European nations will draw more athletic girls into the sport how will we adapt?

Why not stick to that as a topic and stop worrying about some bogeyman at Evergreen.

It’s like most of the girls selected for the “top” in the DMV can not play soccer that way. First touch, passing with one or two touches, building and probing while maintaining possession that is not the travel game. Long balls to fast forward that’s the present and future.

To claim that it can't be taught is both stubborn and condescending.

DP. I don't think it can't be taught. I just think that it isn't taught. That's not the type of soccer that is played in the US. Of course, any player could learn it if our system of soccer valued it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone else stated earlier, another veiled Barca Academy advertisement thread. They are becoming so obvious it’s pathetic.

Nailed it early on page 2—impressive!!

Yes. It’s amazing how fanatical and machine like the advertising wing is here. I guess things must be looking down over there and they need new business. I know a number of good families who have left due to dissatisfaction with the environment and favoritism there.

Again, only you bringing it up.

DP. Who cares? It seems a lot more valuable feedback on the local option then you and your partners feedback that people should enroll because of a Spanish teams success in one game against PDA.

And it is obvious what you are doing. In this discussion and beyond. You aren’t as clever as you think you are.

No matter how much you want to make this about a small local soccer club the real discussion is about how effective will American style soccer be moving forward as nations like Spain developing kids every bit as athletic as ours?

The PDA game was certainly just one data point but it should not be ignored or dismissed either. PDA did not have a athletic advantage over Barca, so moving forward, assuming European nations will draw more athletic girls into the sport how will we adapt?

Why not stick to that as a topic and stop worrying about some bogeyman at Evergreen.

It’s like most of the girls selected for the “top” in the DMV can not play soccer that way. First touch, passing with one or two touches, building and probing while maintaining possession that is not the travel game. Long balls to fast forward that’s the present and future.

To claim that it can't be taught is both stubborn and condescending.

DP. I don't think it can't be taught. I just think that it isn't taught. That's not the type of soccer that is played in the US. Of course, any player could learn it if our system of soccer valued it.

Then, the next obvious question is, should it be the type of soccer that we should be teaching?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone else stated earlier, another veiled Barca Academy advertisement thread. They are becoming so obvious it’s pathetic.

Nailed it early on page 2—impressive!!

Yes. It’s amazing how fanatical and machine like the advertising wing is here. I guess things must be looking down over there and they need new business. I know a number of good families who have left due to dissatisfaction with the environment and favoritism there.

Again, only you bringing it up.

DP. Who cares? It seems a lot more valuable feedback on the local option then you and your partners feedback that people should enroll because of a Spanish teams success in one game against PDA.

And it is obvious what you are doing. In this discussion and beyond. You aren’t as clever as you think you are.

No matter how much you want to make this about a small local soccer club the real discussion is about how effective will American style soccer be moving forward as nations like Spain developing kids every bit as athletic as ours?

The PDA game was certainly just one data point but it should not be ignored or dismissed either. PDA did not have a athletic advantage over Barca, so moving forward, assuming European nations will draw more athletic girls into the sport how will we adapt?

Why not stick to that as a topic and stop worrying about some bogeyman at Evergreen.

It’s like most of the girls selected for the “top” in the DMV can not play soccer that way. First touch, passing with one or two touches, building and probing while maintaining possession that is not the travel game. Long balls to fast forward that’s the present and future.

To claim that it can't be taught is both stubborn and condescending.

DP. I don't think it can't be taught. I just think that it isn't taught. That's not the type of soccer that is played in the US. Of course, any player could learn it if our system of soccer valued it.

Then, the next obvious question is, should it be the type of soccer that we should be teaching?

Since it is the type played all over Europe, I would say so. They don't all do it as a tiki take. But watch the Premier League, the Bundesliga, etc. So yeah, I think that's why the US lags behind so many other countries.

[Anonymous]

Let's take a step back from the abyss.

First, Barca looked good through the ICC Futures and the PDA game was by far the best performance. Barca outplayed PDA in the first half.

Second, PDA is the best team in the country at U15. Give them credit for playing much better in the 2nd half. I would argue that they won the 2nd half although they did not convert any of the dozen opportunities they created. PDA played really good soccer but Barca played better soccer.

Third, Europe is not the birthplace of the best players in soccer. Argentina and Brazil are home to the best players. Neymar, Messi, Viniciuis, Di Maria, G. Jesus, Aguero, Dybala, Coutinho, etc., dominate European soccer. Barca, PSG, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Byren Munich, ManCity, etc. are all heavily influenced by players from Argentina and Brazil. The best clubs take players that have developed enough in their home countries to star in Europe. The European teams just put them in the system and let them go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's take a step back from the abyss.

First, Barca looked good through the ICC Futures and the PDA game was by far the best performance. Barca outplayed PDA in the first half.

Second, PDA is the best team in the country at U15. Give them credit for playing much better in the 2nd half. I would argue that they won the 2nd half although they did not convert any of the dozen opportunities they created. PDA played really good soccer but Barca played better soccer.

Third, Europe is not the birthplace of the best players in soccer. Argentina and Brazil are home to the best players. Neymar, Messi, Viniciuis, Di Maria, G. Jesus, Aguero, Dybala, Coutinho, etc., dominate European soccer. Barca, PSG, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Byren Munich, ManCity, etc. are all heavily influenced by players from Argentina and Brazil. The best clubs take players that have developed enough in their home countries to star in Europe. The European teams just put them in the system and let them go.

European soccer has dominated the World Cup the last decade on the men’s side. They are doing something right with the big picture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's take a step back from the abyss.

First, Barca looked good through the ICC Futures and the PDA game was by far the best performance. Barca outplayed PDA in the first half.

Second, PDA is the best team in the country at U15. Give them credit for playing much better in the 2nd half. I would argue that they won the 2nd half although they did not convert any of the dozen opportunities they created. PDA played really good soccer but Barca played better soccer.

Third, Europe is not the birthplace of the best players in soccer. Argentina and Brazil are home to the best players. Neymar, Messi, Viniciuis, Di Maria, G. Jesus, Aguero, Dybala, Coutinho, etc., dominate European soccer. Barca, PSG, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Byren Munich, ManCity, etc. are all heavily influenced by players from Argentina and Brazil. The best clubs take players that have developed enough in their home countries to star in Europe. The European teams just put them in the system and let them go.

European soccer has dominated the World Cup the last decade on the men’s side. They are doing something right with the big picture.

DP. I don't disagree that there are countries beyond Europe that do things right, such as Brazil, the home of Futsal. But when I mentioned Europe a couple of posts back, it was in the context of Spain being part of Europe. I don't feel the need to list every single country that has a better soccer culture. The list is too long.

However, where Europe overall stands out ahead of Latin America overall would be the steps they have taken in the women's game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone else stated earlier, another veiled Barca Academy advertisement thread. They are becoming so obvious it’s pathetic.

Nailed it early on page 2—impressive!!

Yes. It’s amazing how fanatical and machine like the advertising wing is here. I guess things must be looking down over there and they need new business. I know a number of good families who have left due to dissatisfaction with the environment and favoritism there.

Again, only you bringing it up.

DP. Who cares? It seems a lot more valuable feedback on the local option then you and your partners feedback that people should enroll because of a Spanish teams success in one game against PDA.

And it is obvious what you are doing. In this discussion and beyond. You aren’t as clever as you think you are.

No matter how much you want to make this about a small local soccer club the real discussion is about how effective will American style soccer be moving forward as nations like Spain developing kids every bit as athletic as ours?

The PDA game was certainly just one data point but it should not be ignored or dismissed either. PDA did not have a athletic advantage over Barca, so moving forward, assuming European nations will draw more athletic girls into the sport how will we adapt?

Why not stick to that as a topic and stop worrying about some bogeyman at Evergreen.

It’s like most of the girls selected for the “top” in the DMV can not play soccer that way. First touch, passing with one or two touches, building and probing while maintaining possession that is not the travel game. Long balls to fast forward that’s the present and future.

These kinds of comments are the ones that people are objecting to. Can't we stick to the discussion of international (amateur and pro) style and tactics and less about the local clubs and what we think we see based on our limited scope?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone else stated earlier, another veiled Barca Academy advertisement thread. They are becoming so obvious it’s pathetic.

Nailed it early on page 2—impressive!!

Yes. It’s amazing how fanatical and machine like the advertising wing is here. I guess things must be looking down over there and they need new business. I know a number of good families who have left due to dissatisfaction with the environment and favoritism there.

Again, only you bringing it up.

DP. Who cares? It seems a lot more valuable feedback on the local option then you and your partners feedback that people should enroll because of a Spanish teams success in one game against PDA.

And it is obvious what you are doing. In this discussion and beyond. You aren’t as clever as you think you are.

No matter how much you want to make this about a small local soccer club the real discussion is about how effective will American style soccer be moving forward as nations like Spain developing kids every bit as athletic as ours?

The PDA game was certainly just one data point but it should not be ignored or dismissed either. PDA did not have a athletic advantage over Barca, so moving forward, assuming European nations will draw more athletic girls into the sport how will we adapt?

Why not stick to that as a topic and stop worrying about some bogeyman at Evergreen.

It’s like most of the girls selected for the “top” in the DMV can not play soccer that way. First touch, passing with one or two touches, building and probing while maintaining possession that is not the travel game. Long balls to fast forward that’s the present and future.

These kinds of comments are the ones that people are objecting to. Can't we stick to the discussion of international (amateur and pro) style and tactics and less about the local clubs and what we think we see based on our limited scope?

How can you have a discussion about style and tactics if you can not discuss what type of players will preform best with those style and tactics? If you select a certain type of player based on style and tactics from u9 - u17, those players selected will most likely not preform well in a game that is played with a different style and tactics. A few will do well but most will not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone else stated earlier, another veiled Barca Academy advertisement thread. They are becoming so obvious it’s pathetic.

Nailed it early on page 2—impressive!!

Yes. It’s amazing how fanatical and machine like the advertising wing is here. I guess things must be looking down over there and they need new business. I know a number of good families who have left due to dissatisfaction with the environment and favoritism there.

Again, only you bringing it up.

DP. Who cares? It seems a lot more valuable feedback on the local option then you and your partners feedback that people should enroll because of a Spanish teams success in one game against PDA.

And it is obvious what you are doing. In this discussion and beyond. You aren’t as clever as you think you are.

No matter how much you want to make this about a small local soccer club the real discussion is about how effective will American style soccer be moving forward as nations like Spain developing kids every bit as athletic as ours?

The PDA game was certainly just one data point but it should not be ignored or dismissed either. PDA did not have a athletic advantage over Barca, so moving forward, assuming European nations will draw more athletic girls into the sport how will we adapt?

Why not stick to that as a topic and stop worrying about some bogeyman at Evergreen.

It’s like most of the girls selected for the “top” in the DMV can not play soccer that way. First touch, passing with one or two touches, building and probing while maintaining possession that is not the travel game. Long balls to fast forward that’s the present and future.

These kinds of comments are the ones that people are objecting to. Can't we stick to the discussion of international (amateur and pro) style and tactics and less about the local clubs and what we think we see based on our limited scope?

How can you have a discussion about style and tactics if you can not discuss what type of players will preform best with those style and tactics? If you select a certain type of player based on style and tactics from u9 - u17, those players selected will most likely not preform well in a game that is played with a different style and tactics. A few will do well but most will not.

You actually don’t have to discuss local players and clubs at all to have the discussion about different styles. Keep it at the international and pro team level. Is that really so hard? I don’t think so, unless you are trying to prove a point, one way or the other, about youth soccer in this country, trashing local clubs and players in the process.