Is "Public Ivy" really a thing?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Binghamton and it was referred to as the "Ivy of the SUNY system", but it was said as a joke. People waited to get off of the Cornell waitlist for years!

Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca. Which is kinda true.

Because Ithaca is known for it's academics???

SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY New Paltz
SUNY Ithaca
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Ithaca isn't a SUNY school. It's private. Are you saying that because Cornell is in Ithaca? If so, it doesn't really work. I've never heard it referred to as that, I think you made it up. I am the PP about Binghamton, and if people referred to Cornell as SUNY Ithaca, I would know.

I don't understand the confusion with Ithaca College. I wrote "Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca". I've definitely heard it myself and even think it's kinda true.

SUNY does:
https://www.suny.edu/attend/visit-us/complete-campus-list/

Can you point out where on that list there is a reference to "SUNY Ithaca"? Thanks.

He meant it as a pejorative.

I do think the people who said it (maybe at a hockey game?) did mean it as a pejorative.

BUT it is kinda true.

If you think it's pejorative that Cornell has a world class state supported ag school, then go for it.

I haven’t used it as a pejorative. Nothing wrong with state-supported schools.

How do I put this... lesssee....

Bullshit.

LOL. I really don't say "SUNY Ithaca" myself as an insult - I was just pointing out that I have heard the term before. Specifically, I've heard it at hockey games when there is a lot of trash talk ("safety school" is another one thrown out). I truly have no issue with any of the state-supported schools at Cornell. And the reason why it's a funny expression is that it's kinda true.

Don't be so thin-skinned.

Ok, I won't be so thin skinned, if you won't be such an asshole. Deal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's possible to acknowledge that from an ROI perspective, there are many great schools on par with ivies that cost a lot less. This is especially true for undergraduate education, which is the whole ball of wax.

But it's always amusing to read the responses from people shelling out the price of a house for their snowflake's education and then sniff that say, "sure, they're perfectly fine but Hahvahd is bettah." At the margins, maybe it is, but a decade down the road, it's very possible the Public Ivy grad is out-earning the snowflake and, as a bonus, probably living a more full life.

1. Yes it's possible that the PI grad is earning more but which have more opportunities/easier time respectively? Also PI grads in engineering etc are always going to out earn those in other careers. I know coders that earn more than any supreme court justice. "Full Life", well I don't know how you measure that. I have an "off the grid" family member who feels his life is full.

2. Many people feel ROI is a stupid way to value education. A CC accounting degree has the best ROI, so just get that, right?

3. Your use of the term "snowflake" shows that you are an ass and no one should take any of your points seriously.

Correct on all points but especially the bolded.

ROI is not a stupid way to value education when you are comparing, for example, two colleges in the top 25. No one is using ROI to compare Harvard to a community college. That would be stupid. ROI would be a valid consideration for UVA or UCLA in state versus Harvard or Yale.

OK so it's stupid when you think it is and not stupid when you don't think it is. Got it. Makes sense.

That's how life works. Many things make sense in some contexts and not in others A component of RIO is cost. If your kid got a full ride to Duke and also got into Harvard with no financial assistance, wouldn't you at least consider the difference in cost, even if you ultimately decide to go with Harvard? I an not one to use the phrase public Ivy because my kid either gets into an Ivy or not. However, I do think that ROI is a valid measure when comparing colleges within a certain range of each other when costs (including housing) can be $320,000 for four years of unndergrad. Of course there are other factors/intangibles that go into the decision making process like prestige and geographical mobility, to name a couple.

What your talking about now is cost and value, not ROI. They are not the same thing. Do you understand that? No on says don't consider cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As has been stated, the Ivy League does not provide anything superior in the humanities. Parents who send their kids to Ivys looking for excellence in the humanities should be laughed at

So where is excellence in the humanities then?

(ps - you are a distasteful person, laughing at others.)

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Binghamton and it was referred to as the "Ivy of the SUNY system", but it was said as a joke. People waited to get off of the Cornell waitlist for years!

Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca. Which is kinda true.

Because Ithaca is known for it's academics???

SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY New Paltz
SUNY Ithaca
Etc

Ithaca isn't a SUNY school. It's private. Are you saying that because Cornell is in Ithaca? If so, it doesn't really work. I've never heard it referred to as that, I think you made it up. I am the PP about Binghamton, and if people referred to Cornell as SUNY Ithaca, I would know.

I don't understand the confusion with Ithaca College. I wrote "Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca". I've definitely heard it myself and even think it's kinda true.

SUNY does:
https://www.suny.edu/attend/visit-us/complete-campus-list/

Can you point out where on that list there is a reference to "SUNY Ithaca"? Thanks.

He meant it as a pejorative.

I do think the people who said it (maybe at a hockey game?) did mean it as a pejorative.

BUT it is kinda true.

If you think it's pejorative that Cornell has a world class state supported ag school, then go for it.

I haven’t used it as a pejorative. Nothing wrong with state-supported schools.

How do I put this... lesssee....

Bullshit.

LOL. I really don't say "SUNY Ithaca" myself as an insult - I was just pointing out that I have heard the term before. Specifically, I've heard it at hockey games when there is a lot of trash talk ("safety school" is another one thrown out). I truly have no issue with any of the state-supported schools at Cornell. And the reason why it's a funny expression is that it's kinda true.

Don't be so thin-skinned.

Ok, I won't be so thin skinned, if you won't be such an asshole. Deal?

Dude, if you think I'm an asshole, you're going to have a tough life.

Enjoy!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SUNY%20Ithaca
http://www.wikicu.com/Cornell_University

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Binghamton and it was referred to as the "Ivy of the SUNY system", but it was said as a joke. People waited to get off of the Cornell waitlist for years!

Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca. Which is kinda true.

Because Ithaca is known for it's academics???

SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY New Paltz
SUNY Ithaca
Etc

Ithaca isn't a SUNY school. It's private. Are you saying that because Cornell is in Ithaca? If so, it doesn't really work. I've never heard it referred to as that, I think you made it up. I am the PP about Binghamton, and if people referred to Cornell as SUNY Ithaca, I would know.

I don't understand the confusion with Ithaca College. I wrote "Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca". I've definitely heard it myself and even think it's kinda true.

SUNY does:
https://www.suny.edu/attend/visit-us/complete-campus-list/

Can you point out where on that list there is a reference to "SUNY Ithaca"? Thanks.

He meant it as a pejorative.

I do think the people who said it (maybe at a hockey game?) did mean it as a pejorative.

BUT it is kinda true.

If you think it's pejorative that Cornell has a world class state supported ag school, then go for it.

I haven’t used it as a pejorative. Nothing wrong with state-supported schools.

How do I put this... lesssee....

Bullshit.

LOL. I really don't say "SUNY Ithaca" myself as an insult - I was just pointing out that I have heard the term before. Specifically, I've heard it at hockey games when there is a lot of trash talk ("safety school" is another one thrown out). I truly have no issue with any of the state-supported schools at Cornell. And the reason why it's a funny expression is that it's kinda true.

Don't be so thin-skinned.

Ok, I won't be so thin skinned, if you won't be such an asshole. Deal?

Dude, if you think I'm an asshole, you're going to have a tough life.

Enjoy!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SUNY%20Ithaca
http://www.wikicu.com/Cornell_University

There are worse then you? Haven't met many, fortunately.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As has been stated, the Ivy League does not provide anything superior in the humanities. Parents who send their kids to Ivys looking for excellence in the humanities should be laughed at

So where is excellence in the humanities then?

(ps - you are a distasteful person, laughing at others.)

Reed College in Portland and St. John’s College in Annapolis are great examples of schools with real excellence in the humanities. Plus no grade inflation

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Binghamton and it was referred to as the "Ivy of the SUNY system", but it was said as a joke. People waited to get off of the Cornell waitlist for years!

Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca. Which is kinda true.

Because Ithaca is known for it's academics???

SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY New Paltz
SUNY Ithaca
Etc

Ithaca isn't a SUNY school. It's private. Are you saying that because Cornell is in Ithaca? If so, it doesn't really work. I've never heard it referred to as that, I think you made it up. I am the PP about Binghamton, and if people referred to Cornell as SUNY Ithaca, I would know.

I don't understand the confusion with Ithaca College. I wrote "Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca". I've definitely heard it myself and even think it's kinda true.

SUNY does:
https://www.suny.edu/attend/visit-us/complete-campus-list/

Can you point out where on that list there is a reference to "SUNY Ithaca"? Thanks.

He meant it as a pejorative.

I do think the people who said it (maybe at a hockey game?) did mean it as a pejorative.

BUT it is kinda true.

If you think it's pejorative that Cornell has a world class state supported ag school, then go for it.

I haven’t used it as a pejorative. Nothing wrong with state-supported schools.

How do I put this... lesssee....

Bullshit.

LOL. I really don't say "SUNY Ithaca" myself as an insult - I was just pointing out that I have heard the term before. Specifically, I've heard it at hockey games when there is a lot of trash talk ("safety school" is another one thrown out). I truly have no issue with any of the state-supported schools at Cornell. And the reason why it's a funny expression is that it's kinda true.

Don't be so thin-skinned.

Ok, I won't be so thin skinned, if you won't be such an asshole. Deal?

Dude, if you think I'm an asshole, you're going to have a tough life.

Enjoy!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SUNY%20Ithaca
http://www.wikicu.com/Cornell_University

There are worse then you? Haven't met many, fortunately.

Yes, grasshopper, there are actual assholes out there. Look out for them. Hint: they aren't the people who bring up a joke name for a university.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As has been stated, the Ivy League does not provide anything superior in the humanities. Parents who send their kids to Ivys looking for excellence in the humanities should be laughed at

So where is excellence in the humanities then?

(ps - you are a distasteful person, laughing at others.)

Reed College in Portland and St. John’s College in Annapolis are great examples of schools with real excellence in the humanities. Plus no grade inflation

Roger that.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Binghamton and it was referred to as the "Ivy of the SUNY system", but it was said as a joke. People waited to get off of the Cornell waitlist for years!

Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca. Which is kinda true.

Because Ithaca is known for it's academics???

SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY New Paltz
SUNY Ithaca
Etc

Ithaca isn't a SUNY school. It's private. Are you saying that because Cornell is in Ithaca? If so, it doesn't really work. I've never heard it referred to as that, I think you made it up. I am the PP about Binghamton, and if people referred to Cornell as SUNY Ithaca, I would know.

I don't understand the confusion with Ithaca College. I wrote "Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca". I've definitely heard it myself and even think it's kinda true.

SUNY does:
https://www.suny.edu/attend/visit-us/complete-campus-list/

Can you point out where on that list there is a reference to "SUNY Ithaca"? Thanks.

He meant it as a pejorative.

I do think the people who said it (maybe at a hockey game?) did mean it as a pejorative.

BUT it is kinda true.

If you think it's pejorative that Cornell has a world class state supported ag school, then go for it.

I haven’t used it as a pejorative. Nothing wrong with state-supported schools.

How do I put this... lesssee....

Bullshit.

LOL. I really don't say "SUNY Ithaca" myself as an insult - I was just pointing out that I have heard the term before. Specifically, I've heard it at hockey games when there is a lot of trash talk ("safety school" is another one thrown out). I truly have no issue with any of the state-supported schools at Cornell. And the reason why it's a funny expression is that it's kinda true.

Don't be so thin-skinned.

Ok, I won't be so thin skinned, if you won't be such an asshole. Deal?

Dude, if you think I'm an asshole, you're going to have a tough life.

Enjoy!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SUNY%20Ithaca
http://www.wikicu.com/Cornell_University

There are worse then you? Haven't met many, fortunately.

Yes, grasshopper, there are actual assholes out there. Look out for them. Hint: they aren't the people who bring up a joke name for a university.

Actually, sometimes they are, they just aren't aware.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Binghamton and it was referred to as the "Ivy of the SUNY system", but it was said as a joke. People waited to get off of the Cornell waitlist for years!

Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca. Which is kinda true.

Because Ithaca is known for it's academics???

SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY New Paltz
SUNY Ithaca
Etc

Ithaca isn't a SUNY school. It's private. Are you saying that because Cornell is in Ithaca? If so, it doesn't really work. I've never heard it referred to as that, I think you made it up. I am the PP about Binghamton, and if people referred to Cornell as SUNY Ithaca, I would know.

I don't understand the confusion with Ithaca College. I wrote "Cornell is called SUNY Ithaca". I've definitely heard it myself and even think it's kinda true.

SUNY does:
https://www.suny.edu/attend/visit-us/complete-campus-list/

Can you point out where on that list there is a reference to "SUNY Ithaca"? Thanks.

He meant it as a pejorative.

I do think the people who said it (maybe at a hockey game?) did mean it as a pejorative.

BUT it is kinda true.

If you think it's pejorative that Cornell has a world class state supported ag school, then go for it.

I haven’t used it as a pejorative. Nothing wrong with state-supported schools.

How do I put this... lesssee....

Bullshit.

LOL. I really don't say "SUNY Ithaca" myself as an insult - I was just pointing out that I have heard the term before. Specifically, I've heard it at hockey games when there is a lot of trash talk ("safety school" is another one thrown out). I truly have no issue with any of the state-supported schools at Cornell. And the reason why it's a funny expression is that it's kinda true.

Don't be so thin-skinned.

Ok, I won't be so thin skinned, if you won't be such an asshole. Deal?

Dude, if you think I'm an asshole, you're going to have a tough life.

Enjoy!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SUNY%20Ithaca
http://www.wikicu.com/Cornell_University

Lol.....this imbecile is actually citing urban dictionary as a source? Too funny and yet more proof he could never gain admission to Cornell.

[Anonymous]

What “source” do you use for colloquial expressions? What are they teaching at the “public Ivies” these days?

[Anonymous]

OP...mine goes to a "Community College Ivy" ...just kidding. The whole thing of "public ivy" is ridiculous. No such thing.

[Anonymous]

I just had a pretty good sandwich. Definitely a Grilled Cheese Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Miami University still touts itself as a Public Ivy on its web site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Miami University still touts itself as a Public Ivy on its web site.

It is a school that has had a focus on undergraduate education and teaching. Those are rare.