Is "Public Ivy" really a thing?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I found this humorous but was chatting with another parent and after I revealed my daughter is going to Cornell she said "that's wonderful, my son is going to an ivy too!". I said "that's great, which one?" and she said "UNC, chapel Hill". I said "I'm sorry that's not ivy league"and she retorted "yes it is, it's a public ivy".

I'm sorry but isn't there only one ivy league? My child worked incredibly hard to get into an ivy I frankly think it's rude to misrepresent and say that UNC is ivy league - even though it is a great school.


I find it humorous that your offended. It’s actually making me laugh. I’m sure your child worked so very very hard!
Anonymous
I’m sorry but the Ivy League is largely just a brand today. Leftism, critical race theory, anodother PC nonsense dominate the Ivy League. Kids used to be required to have a reading knowledge of Greek, Latin, AND a modern language JUST TO GET INTO AN IVY. Standards today are a joke. What does one get from attending an Ivy other than professional benefits? Studying with nuts like Peter Singer?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found this humorous but was chatting with another parent and after I revealed my daughter is going to Cornell she said "that's wonderful, my son is going to an ivy too!". I said "that's great, which one?" and she said "UNC, chapel Hill". I said "I'm sorry that's not ivy league"and she retorted "yes it is, it's a public ivy".

I'm sorry but isn't there only one ivy league? My child worked incredibly hard to get into an ivy I frankly think it's rude to misrepresent and say that UNC is ivy league - even though it is a great school.


I find it humorous that your offended. It’s actually making me laugh. I’m sure your child worked so very very hard!


OP, I'd be offended too. Clearly she doesn't realize what a fool she is making of herself. My relatives all attend/attended Purdue. They all tell me that Purdue is equivalent or better than ivy league schools. I just nod. My DC attends an ivy league school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I found this humorous but was chatting with another parent and after I revealed my daughter is going to Cornell she said "that's wonderful, my son is going to an ivy too!". I said "that's great, which one?" and she said "UNC, chapel Hill". I said "I'm sorry that's not ivy league"and she retorted "yes it is, it's a public ivy".

I'm sorry but isn't there only one ivy league? My child worked incredibly hard to get into an ivy I frankly think it's rude to misrepresent and say that UNC is ivy league - even though it is a great school.

Alex, I'll take things that never happened for $500, please.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s not really a thing. But at the same time, and I say this as a proud Cornell grad, Ivy is a football league.

Cornell is a good school, and it’s great your dd got in, but you should be proud she got into Cornell, not that she got into an Ivy. They’re not interchangeable, and there are plenty of schools that are not in the Ivy League that are quite arguably better than Cornell.


+1

It’s not a real thing. “Ivy League” is just a sports conference. “Public Ivy” is a term manufactured by parents to make themselves feel better about their choices.

Anonymous
I’m sorry but the Ivy League is largely just a brand today. Leftism, critical race theory, anodother PC nonsense dominate the Ivy League. Kids used to be required to have a reading knowledge of Greek, Latin, AND a modern language JUST TO GET INTO AN IVY. Standards today are a joke.


Yes, it IS a brand, one known for excellence all over the world. If the standards were a "joke" as you say, would most of the schools still have an admit rate of single digits?


"What does one get from attending an Ivy other than professional benefits?


Now THAT is funny.

Anonymous wrote:
It’s not a real thing. “Ivy League” is just a sports conference.


Aaaaannnndddd... it was only a matter of time before this idiot showed up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not really a thing. But at the same time, and I say this as a proud Cornell grad, Ivy is a football league.

Cornell is a good school, and it’s great your dd got in, but you should be proud she got into Cornell, not that she got into an Ivy. They’re not interchangeable, and there are plenty of schools that are not in the Ivy League that are quite arguably better than Cornell.


+1

It’s not a real thing. “Ivy League” is just a sports conference. “Public Ivy” is a term manufactured by parents to make themselves feel better about their choices.



Yes, or rather their reduced choices. The only universities or colleges in the US that I'd consider equivalent or better than an Ivy would be MIT and then on the next rung down, places like Berkeley and UCLA, William & Mary, so on and so forth
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not really a thing. But at the same time, and I say this as a proud Cornell grad, Ivy is a football league.

Cornell is a good school, and it’s great your dd got in, but you should be proud she got into Cornell, not that she got into an Ivy. They’re not interchangeable, and there are plenty of schools that are not in the Ivy League that are quite arguably better than Cornell.


+1

It’s not a real thing. “Ivy League” is just a sports conference. “Public Ivy” is a term manufactured by parents to make themselves feel better about their choices.



Yes, or rather their reduced choices. The only universities or colleges in the US that I'd consider equivalent or better than an Ivy would be MIT and then on the next rung down, places like Berkeley and UCLA, William & Mary, so on and so forth


Stanford is up there. So is Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, etc. TONS of great schools that are all in different sports conferences.
Anonymous
The difference in cost is fairly substantial. That’s the point the 1988 author was trying to make.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I’m sorry but the Ivy League is largely just a brand today. Leftism, critical race theory, anodother PC nonsense dominate the Ivy League. Kids used to be required to have a reading knowledge of Greek, Latin, AND a modern language JUST TO GET INTO AN IVY. Standards today are a joke.


Yes, it IS a brand, one known for excellence all over the world. If the standards were a "joke" as you say, would most of the schools still have an admit rate of single digits?


"What does one get from attending an Ivy other than professional benefits?


Now THAT is funny.

Anonymous wrote:
It’s not a real thing. “Ivy League” is just a sports conference.


Aaaaannnndddd... it was only a matter of time before this idiot showed up.


We’ve gone through this before and always come back to....in reality, it’s just a sports conference. People may perceive that it’s more than that but that perception is just based on manufactured hype. Not reality.
Anonymous
Wahoo here. We roll our eyes at people who say it. We are fine with being a public school. People who have to say “public ivy” obviously think there something wrong with just being a good public school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I’m sorry but the Ivy League is largely just a brand today. Leftism, critical race theory, anodother PC nonsense dominate the Ivy League. Kids used to be required to have a reading knowledge of Greek, Latin, AND a modern language JUST TO GET INTO AN IVY. Standards today are a joke.


Yes, it IS a brand, one known for excellence all over the world. If the standards were a "joke" as you say, would most of the schools still have an admit rate of single digits?


"What does one get from attending an Ivy other than professional benefits?


Now THAT is funny.

Anonymous wrote:
It’s not a real thing. “Ivy League” is just a sports conference.


Aaaaannnndddd... it was only a matter of time before this idiot showed up.
I am talking about academic standards.( specifically in the humanities) Low admit rate doesn’t mean a damn thing. They have low admit rates because
1. Thousands upon thousands of students apply
2. People still see the Ivy League as providing an excellent education( albeit wrongly) and of course the professional benefits/connections are excellent so the smartest students( by today’s standards anyway) apply.

Look up what Harvey Manssfield ( a long time Harvard professor) has to say about its academic standards. The Ivy’s used to produce great witers, orators, and statesmen(Frost, Calhoun, Adams) What do they produ now? Idiots like Bush, Hillary, Obama, Trump, Cruz etc
Anonymous
Of course "Ivy League" is a brand, just like Ashley Madison.com.
Anonymous
Look up what Harvey Manssfield ( a long time Harvard professor) has to say about its academic standards. The Ivy’s used to produce great witers, orators, and statesmen(Frost, Calhoun, Adams) What do they produ now? Idiots like Bush, Hillary, Obama, Trump, Cruz etc


LOL. Old turdy losers are funny.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Look up what Harvey Manssfield ( a long time Harvard professor) has to say about its academic standards. The Ivy’s used to produce great witers, orators, and statesmen(Frost, Calhoun, Adams) What do they produ now? Idiots like Bush, Hillary, Obama, Trump, Cruz etc


LOL. Old turdy losers are funny.

Right. No answer to a cogent point, just “LOL”
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