Montgomery County vs. Frederick County

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Congrats. I've lived in the DMV for 25 years. And I can guarantee you that it was called that, and especially for those of us that lived in the District at the time, that was 100% the perception of MoCo:

- Rich people in Bethesda & Chevy Chase
- Rednecks in Poolesvile/Clarksburg/Damascus

And yes, the perception of Frederick at that time was also of Rednecks. But there was no reason to say that 'rich people' lived there.

That's moving the goal post from what you said earlier.
Everyone knows that there are rednecks in Poolesville, Damascus but that's different from saying MoCo used to be called " the rich and the rednecks", as if those are the only places in MoCo. What about the rest of MoCo (the majority of it)?
I got to wonder what kind of people you frequent who only think of MoCo as Bethesda/Chevy Chase and the whitest areas?
Don't tell me

We were talking about the perception of MoCo in the 90s....when ya know, it was predominately white: https://montgomeryplanning.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/MP_TrendsReport_final.pdf slide 25

No, it was not called "the rich and the rednecks" nor was it the perception in the 90s, even though the county was majority White.

Yes it was Seneca Valley was rednecks

This is a joke, right?

It just cracks me up that since they don't "like" the idea that this was the perception of MoCo in the 90s, they just simply say "its not true"

I know everyone here likes to think of themselves as super education and advanced and the elite county in the entire country. But there was (and still is) a strong redneck presence in the county. And 30 years ago, when the county was predomanitely white, the perception of MoCo was rich people in Bethesda & Chevy Chase, and Rednecks further up.

And yes, we all understood there was a middle class in between. But it was a joke. But it was 100% said. Outloud. By real people

That tells us a lot of the kind of people you were around.
For the majority of people in DC, MoCo was Silver Spring, Rockville, part of Takoma Park, Bethesda, Wheaton, Potomac, Gaithersburg. Most didn't even know if there were such places as Poolesville and Damascus. Up north was Fredneck.

Not one of the previous posters, but I find it funny that PP thinks that folks in the 90s really thought about some of the cities as being in MoCo affiliated. In reality places like Silver Spring was just thought of as their own separate city, right outside of DC. Little thought was given to the fact that it resided in MoCo.

You're wrong. In the 90s, the first place people in DC, PG have in mind when you say MoCo was Silver Spring.

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Even though I don't like how MCPS is heading, I still think MCPS is better than FCPS. As someone says Urbana and Middleburg HS are very good and ranked higher than many of MCPS HS. I know that MCPS HS win a lot more competitions than FCPS.

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Revisiting this. Any new opinions? We’re looking at purchasing a home in either the Urbana and Damascus school systems.

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Frederick isn't the 1 cow town it used to be. I'd move there in a heartbeat if I could.

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Anonymous wrote:Revisiting this. Any new opinions? We’re looking at purchasing a home in either the Urbana and Damascus school systems.

I'd go with Urbana

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Frederick's new superintendent used to be associate superintendent in MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Frederick isn't the 1 cow town it used to be. I'd move there in a heartbeat if I could.

Having minority children, I would only be comfortable sending my kids to Urbana HS. You would be shocked to hear what I've heard from friends who have made the move to other Frederick schools.

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I'd go with Frederick if I were you. Now that Thrive has been passed, there will be low-income housing shoved everywhere in MoCo.

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I'd go with Moco. Schools provide much greater opportunities than what's available elsewhere. Sure, it's a big and diverse county with many who aren't as academically inclined but for those who are it's better than ever right now.

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Anonymous wrote:How would you compare Montgomery County Public Schools to Frederick County Public Schools?

another OLD post from 2019 being resurrected

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Anonymous wrote:Frederick isn't the 1 cow town it used to be. I'd move there in a heartbeat if I could.

Having minority children, I would only be comfortable sending my kids to Urbana HS. You would be shocked to hear what I've heard from friends who have made the move to other Frederick schools.

Having moved from MoCo to FredCo, the lack of diversity is real.

That said, I've encountered more biracial families here than in MoCo, and see more diverse friend groups than in MoCo.

Where we lived in MoCo, it was diverse and segregated at the same time. On paper, the HS looked incredibly diverse. But in practice, each cultural/racial group sort of kept to themselves.

So here, in FredCo, even though the percentages on diversity dont look as good as some MoCo schools, it does seem like kids are more likely to have friends across races

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Anonymous wrote:I'd go with Frederick if I were you. Now that Thrive has been passed, there will be low-income housing shoved everywhere in MoCo.

Low income people are sub-human?

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Anonymous wrote:I'd go with Frederick if I were you. Now that Thrive has been passed, there will be low-income housing shoved everywhere in MoCo.

Low income people are sub-human?

Different pp but if you are wo during why there are violent crimes happening more and more these days I invite you to take a look at where they are occurring. It's not Potomac. Oh, and when you figure out where the crimes are occurring, dig in a little and see if those places have been actively bringing in need families in from other areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Frederick isn't the 1 cow town it used to be. I'd move there in a heartbeat if I could.

Having minority children, I would only be comfortable sending my kids to Urbana HS. You would be shocked to hear what I've heard from friends who have made the move to other Frederick schools.

Having moved from MoCo to FredCo, the lack of diversity is real.

That said, I've encountered more biracial families here than in MoCo, and see more diverse friend groups than in MoCo.

Where we lived in MoCo, it was diverse and segregated at the same time. On paper, the HS looked incredibly diverse. But in practice, each cultural/racial group sort of kept to themselves.

So here, in FredCo, even though the percentages on diversity dont look as good as some MoCo schools, it does seem like kids are more likely to have friends across races

that's because they have no choice.

My nonwhite nieces went to a very majority white school. Guess who they made friends with.. yep, white kids. But they also got some racist taunts thrown at them, too.

They eventually moved to a city that had more people of their own race and were much happier there.

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Anonymous wrote:Frederick isn't the 1 cow town it used to be. I'd move there in a heartbeat if I could.

Having minority children, I would only be comfortable sending my kids to Urbana HS. You would be shocked to hear what I've heard from friends who have made the move to other Frederick schools.

Having moved from MoCo to FredCo, the lack of diversity is real.

That said, I've encountered more biracial families here than in MoCo, and see more diverse friend groups than in MoCo.

Where we lived in MoCo, it was diverse and segregated at the same time. On paper, the HS looked incredibly diverse. But in practice, each cultural/racial group sort of kept to themselves.

So here, in FredCo, even though the percentages on diversity dont look as good as some MoCo schools, it does seem like kids are more likely to have friends across races

that's because they have no choice.

My nonwhite nieces went to a very majority white school. Guess who they made friends with.. yep, white kids. But they also got some racist taunts thrown at them, too.

They eventually moved to a city that had more people of their own race and were much happier there.

Yeah, I wasn't saying it was better or worse tbh.

But I'm not sure going to a diverse but segregated HS is really any better.

(BTW, I'm white, but my children are biracial). I'm glad they get a little bit more exposure even if its really bc they have no other choice