3.7% pay cut for DCPS teachers for SY 19-20

Anonymous
I cannot believe that adults fail to grasp this simple concept.

Also -- what's up with all of the people claiming that "teachers are paid by the school year." Do they think that teachers report their federal taxes and AGI on a different schedule than other people?

Teachers -- the income that you report on your 2020 taxes will be exactly the same as what you reported on your 2019 taxes. It will be paid to you in 27 installments instead of 26.

I really hope that none of you guys teaches math.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe that adults fail to grasp this simple concept.

Also -- what's up with all of the people claiming that "teachers are paid by the school year." Do they think that teachers report their federal taxes and AGI on a different schedule than other people?

Teachers -- the income that you report on your 2020 taxes will be exactly the same as what you reported on your 2019 taxes. It will be paid to you in 27 installments instead of 26.

I really hope that none of you guys teaches math.


I hope you do not do people’s taxes as you are the idiot. It actually will not be the same because the paycheck amounts will be different. Also, some years there are 27 bi-weekly pay periods. It happened to much of the federal government last year.

Teachers are paid for the work they do doing the school year. This work takes place over roughly 10 months, mid-August to mid-June. In DCPS they spread that pay over the school year in biweekly paychecks ( it all school systems do this). Usually, DCPS has a 9 week summer, this summer the break is 10 weeks. There are 27 biweekly pay periods in the 2019/2020 school calendar year. I guess they could have designated a pay period as not belonging to either 2019-2020 or 2018-2019 and just not issued a teacher paycheck that week. However, that is not what they chose. They chose to spread the total salary for the school calendar year over 27 pay periods.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe that adults fail to grasp this simple concept.

Also -- what's up with all of the people claiming that "teachers are paid by the school year." Do they think that teachers report their federal taxes and AGI on a different schedule than other people?

Teachers -- the income that you report on your 2020 taxes will be exactly the same as what you reported on your 2019 taxes. It will be paid to you in 27 installments instead of 26.

I really hope that none of you guys teaches math.


I hope you do not do people’s taxes as you are the idiot. It actually will not be the same because the paycheck amounts will be different. Also, some years there are 27 bi-weekly pay periods. It happened to much of the federal government last year.

Teachers are paid for the work they do doing the school year. This work takes place over roughly 10 months, mid-August to mid-June. In DCPS they spread that pay over the school year in biweekly paychecks ( it all school systems do this). Usually, DCPS has a 9 week summer, this summer the break is 10 weeks. There are 27 biweekly pay periods in the 2019/2020 school calendar year. I guess they could have designated a pay period as not belonging to either 2019-2020 or 2018-2019 and just not issued a teacher paycheck that week. However, that is not what they chose. They chose to spread the total salary for the school calendar year over 27 pay periods.


BWAHAHA (ugh) hamwahaha (choke)...stop tickling my feet because this joke is old. I mean, you're just playing around, right? Right? I mean, if your taxes don't change, stop being deranged.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe that adults fail to grasp this simple concept.

Also -- what's up with all of the people claiming that "teachers are paid by the school year." Do they think that teachers report their federal taxes and AGI on a different schedule than other people?

Teachers -- the income that you report on your 2020 taxes will be exactly the same as what you reported on your 2019 taxes. It will be paid to you in 27 installments instead of 26.

I really hope that none of you guys teaches math.


I hope you do not do people’s taxes as you are the idiot. It actually will not be the same because the paycheck amounts will be different. Also, some years there are 27 bi-weekly pay periods. It happened to much of the federal government last year.

Teachers are paid for the work they do doing the school year. This work takes place over roughly 10 months, mid-August to mid-June. In DCPS they spread that pay over the school year in biweekly paychecks ( it all school systems do this). Usually, DCPS has a 9 week summer, this summer the break is 10 weeks. There are 27 biweekly pay periods in the 2019/2020 school calendar year. I guess they could have designated a pay period as not belonging to either 2019-2020 or 2018-2019 and just not issued a teacher paycheck that week. However, that is not what they chose. They chose to spread the total salary for the school calendar year over 27 pay periods.


BWAHAHA (ugh) hamwahaha (choke)...stop tickling my feet because this joke is old. I mean, you're just playing around, right? Right? I mean, if your taxes don't change, stop being deranged.


Oh my Lord. The taxes do change! Assuming no raises or bonuses or whatever — assuming that the earnings for the last school year and the next school year are the same — the earned income for 2019 will be smaller than either 2018 or 2020 becase of how the school years are spread across the calendar year.

If you are not an accountant or finance professional, just stop commenting because you don’t know what you are talking about!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe that adults fail to grasp this simple concept.

Also -- what's up with all of the people claiming that "teachers are paid by the school year." Do they think that teachers report their federal taxes and AGI on a different schedule than other people?

Teachers -- the income that you report on your 2020 taxes will be exactly the same as what you reported on your 2019 taxes. It will be paid to you in 27 installments instead of 26.

I really hope that none of you guys teaches math.


I hope you do not do people’s taxes as you are the idiot. It actually will not be the same because the paycheck amounts will be different. Also, some years there are 27 bi-weekly pay periods. It happened to much of the federal government last year.

Teachers are paid for the work they do doing the school year. This work takes place over roughly 10 months, mid-August to mid-June. In DCPS they spread that pay over the school year in biweekly paychecks ( it all school systems do this). Usually, DCPS has a 9 week summer, this summer the break is 10 weeks. There are 27 biweekly pay periods in the 2019/2020 school calendar year. I guess they could have designated a pay period as not belonging to either 2019-2020 or 2018-2019 and just not issued a teacher paycheck that week. However, that is not what they chose. They chose to spread the total salary for the school calendar year over 27 pay periods.


Sounds like you got a Trump Tax Cut, yo.

BWAHAHA (ugh) hamwahaha (choke)...stop tickling my feet because this joke is old. I mean, you're just playing around, right? Right? I mean, if your taxes don't change, stop being deranged.


Oh my Lord. The taxes do change! Assuming no raises or bonuses or whatever — assuming that the earnings for the last school year and the next school year are the same — the earned income for 2019 will be smaller than either 2018 or 2020 becase of how the school years are spread across the calendar year.

If you are not an accountant or finance professional, just stop commenting because you don’t know what you are talking about!
Anonymous
Can someone explain how you can have 27 checks in a biweekly pay system in one year? I can’t get past that part.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how you can have 27 checks in a biweekly pay system in one year? I can’t get past that part.

It’s in the original post. To avoid missing a pay period, they had to add a pay check before the school year actually starts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how you can have 27 checks in a biweekly pay system in one year? I can’t get past that part.


Because you haven't drunk the Kool-aid. But you're right. There is no 27th paycheck.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how you can have 27 checks in a biweekly pay system in one year? I can’t get past that part.


Because you haven't drunk the Kool-aid. But you're right. There is no 27th paycheck.

Go away, troll.
Anonymous
Ms. Teachalot’s 10-month, Step 8 Annual Salary is $69400
69400 / 26 pay periods = $2669 (each paycheck)

In 2019, with the adjustment, Ms. Teachalot will earn $68503

Pay periods 1-17 (17 pay periods)
17 (2669) = $45373

Pay periods 18-26 (9 pay periods)
2669 - 2669 (3.7) = $2570
9 (2570) = $23130
45373 + 23130 = $68503

In 2020, with the adjustment, Ms. Teachalot will earn $67711

Pay periods 1-17
17 (2570) = $43690
Pay periods 18-26
9 ($2669) = $24021

43690 + 24021 = $67711

Over two years, Ms. Teachalot’s income will be 136,214.
Before the adjustment, it would have been 138,800
Over two years, her income will be reduced by $2586
an average of $1293 each year

How is this not a cut?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ms. Teachalot’s 10-month, Step 8 Annual Salary is $69400
69400 / 26 pay periods = $2669 (each paycheck)

In 2019, with the adjustment, Ms. Teachalot will earn $68503

Pay periods 1-17 (17 pay periods)
17 (2669) = $45373

Pay periods 18-26 (9 pay periods)
2669 - 2669 (3.7) = $2570
9 (2570) = $23130
45373 + 23130 = $68503

In 2020, with the adjustment, Ms. Teachalot will earn $67711

Pay periods 1-17
17 (2570) = $43690
Pay periods 18-26
9 ($2669) = $24021

43690 + 24021 = $67711

Over two years, Ms. Teachalot’s income will be 136,214.
Before the adjustment, it would have been 138,800
Over two years, her income will be reduced by $2586
an average of $1293 each year

How is this not a cut?


This is a fluctuation year to year because of how they spread the payments out. Teachers are not paid an annual salary, they are paid a salary for the 10-month school year that is spread over a designated number of pay periods. The salary for working the school year is the same, correct?

I am a federal employee. Last year I received 27 paychecks and my W-2 salary was higher than my annual salary. Did I get a raise? No I did not. I had something happen that happens once every several decades in that that is how the paychecks fell.

Please explain that you are not getting your full salary over the 27 paychecks? Please explain how in the event you quit at the end of the 2019-2020 school year you will not be paid the full amount owed over the course of the summer even though you will have actually quit your job. Would it have been unreasonable for DCPS to have just skipped a paycheck and started up again two weeks later so that you get the same paycheck amount for 26 pay periods?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ms. Teachalot’s 10-month, Step 8 Annual Salary is $69400
69400 / 26 pay periods = $2669 (each paycheck)

In 2019, with the adjustment, Ms. Teachalot will earn $68503

Pay periods 1-17 (17 pay periods)
17 (2669) = $45373

Pay periods 18-26 (9 pay periods)
2669 - 2669 (3.7) = $2570
9 (2570) = $23130
45373 + 23130 = $68503

In 2020, with the adjustment, Ms. Teachalot will earn $67711

Pay periods 1-17
17 (2570) = $43690
Pay periods 18-26
9 ($2669) = $24021

43690 + 24021 = $67711

Over two years, Ms. Teachalot’s income will be 136,214.
Before the adjustment, it would have been 138,800
Over two years, her income will be reduced by $2586
an average of $1293 each year

How is this not a cut?


This is a fluctuation year to year because of how they spread the payments out. Teachers are not paid an annual salary, they are paid a salary for the 10-month school year that is spread over a designated number of pay periods. The salary for working the school year is the same, correct?

I am a federal employee. Last year I received 27 paychecks and my W-2 salary was higher than my annual salary. Did I get a raise? No I did not. I had something happen that happens once every several decades in that that is how the paychecks fell.

Please explain that you are not getting your full salary over the 27 paychecks? Please explain how in the event you quit at the end of the 2019-2020 school year you will not be paid the full amount owed over the course of the summer even though you will have actually quit your job. Would it have been unreasonable for DCPS to have just skipped a paycheck and started up again two weeks later so that you get the same paycheck amount for 26 pay periods?


DCPS teachers are paid an annual salary spread out over 26 payments per calendar year. There has never been a fluctuation. This proposed cut is unprecedented. One year, DCPS attempted to deduct payment for one day at the end of the school year. It was reversed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how you can have 27 checks in a biweekly pay system in one year? I can’t get past that part.


Because if you get paid every other Friday, the number of paychecks you get depend on how many Fridays are in a year, not how many full weeks. Just like no months are 6 weeks long but every year has two months with 3 paychecks because there aren't exactly 28 weeks in every month, because 52 doesn't divide neatly into 365, every so often you will get a year with an extra pay day in it. This is not a tragedy or even something worth remarking on, except it seems someone in the teachers' union has decided to treat it as an attempt to shortchange teachers by paying them ... the same amount of money.
Anonymous
Summer pay is deducted from each paycheck during the school year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ms. Teachalot’s 10-month, Step 8 Annual Salary is $69400
69400 / 26 pay periods = $2669 (each paycheck)

In 2019, with the adjustment, Ms. Teachalot will earn $68503

Pay periods 1-17 (17 pay periods)
17 (2669) = $45373

Pay periods 18-26 (9 pay periods)
2669 - 2669 (3.7) = $2570
9 (2570) = $23130
45373 + 23130 = $68503

In 2020, with the adjustment, Ms. Teachalot will earn $67711

Pay periods 1-17
17 (2570) = $43690
Pay periods 18-26
9 ($2669) = $24021

43690 + 24021 = $67711

Over two years, Ms. Teachalot’s income will be 136,214.
Before the adjustment, it would have been 138,800
Over two years, her income will be reduced by $2586
an average of $1293 each year

How is this not a cut?


This is a fluctuation year to year because of how they spread the payments out. Teachers are not paid an annual salary, they are paid a salary for the 10-month school year that is spread over a designated number of pay periods. The salary for working the school year is the same, correct?

I am a federal employee. Last year I received 27 paychecks and my W-2 salary was higher than my annual salary. Did I get a raise? No I did not. I had something happen that happens once every several decades in that that is how the paychecks fell.

Please explain that you are not getting your full salary over the 27 paychecks? Please explain how in the event you quit at the end of the 2019-2020 school year you will not be paid the full amount owed over the course of the summer even though you will have actually quit your job. Would it have been unreasonable for DCPS to have just skipped a paycheck and started up again two weeks later so that you get the same paycheck amount for 26 pay periods?


DCPS teachers are paid an annual salary spread out over 26 payments per calendar year. There has never been a fluctuation. This proposed cut is unprecedented. One year, DCPS attempted to deduct payment for one day at the end of the school year. It was reversed.


It's not a cut -- it's the SAME annual salary divided by 27 instead of 26, for the same amount of working days. Can you explain how it's a cut? Because it just sounds like you can't do basic math.

The only change here seems to be that there may be an extra week of summer due to the calendar shift -- which means that there would be an extra unpaid week this year. But that seems to be inevitable when you have seasonal work like teaching.

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