3.7% pay cut for DCPS teachers for SY 19-20

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The people who keep bashing the teachers’ math skills are showing their own idiocy.

It is not a pay cut, but it is not a simple redistribution either. The teachers have one less week of paid work in 2019.

It’s like if a restaurant closed one weekend, so none of the waiters got to the opportunity to make money that weekend. But at least management paid out a bit of money based on future earnings.

It’s not a huge deal — again, it is not a permanent pay cut — but it is a small impact on upcoming pay.

No, they are being paid the exact same amount for actually 1 less day of work than in the previous year. It is not the same as changing the schedule for an hourly (with or without tips) worker, if they do not work those hours for that weekend, they do not earn the money and they do not receive pay for the work they missed. DCPS teachers are required to work a certain number of days (it is listed upthread, 195 days in the 2019-20 school year, 1 day less than in 2018-19). They are paid for these days usually over 26 pay periods. Those periods do not align with the 2019-2020 calendar without missing a pay period. DCPS, I suspect in order to avoid having teachers miss receiving pay in a pay period, decided to spread the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF PAY FOR THE EXACT SAME NUMBER OF DAYS OF WORK over 27 pay periods instead of 26. In some school districts teachers are not paid in the summer at all, they are paid during the school year only.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who keep bashing the teachers’ math skills are showing their own idiocy.

It is not a pay cut, but it is not a simple redistribution either. The teachers have one less week of paid work in 2019.

It’s like if a restaurant closed one weekend, so none of the waiters got to the opportunity to make money that weekend. But at least management paid out a bit of money based on future earnings.

It’s not a huge deal — again, it is not a permanent pay cut — but it is a small impact on upcoming pay.

No, they are being paid the exact same amount for actually 1 less day of work than in the previous year. It is not the same as changing the schedule for an hourly (with or without tips) worker, if they do not work those hours for that weekend, they do not earn the money and they do not receive pay for the work they missed. DCPS teachers are required to work a certain number of days (it is listed upthread, 195 days in the 2019-20 school year, 1 day less than in 2018-19). They are paid for these days usually over 26 pay periods. Those periods do not align with the 2019-2020 calendar without missing a pay period. DCPS, I suspect in order to avoid having teachers miss receiving pay in a pay period, decided to spread the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF PAY FOR THE EXACT SAME NUMBER OF DAYS OF WORK over 27 pay periods instead of 26. In some school districts teachers are not paid in the summer at all, they are paid during the school year only.

Incorrect. The school years are the same length (+/- 1 day), but the 2019-2020 school year starts a week later in 2019 than the 2018-2019 school year stared in 2018. Calendar year 2019 will have fewer working/earning days than calendar year 2018 or calendar year 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who keep bashing the teachers’ math skills are showing their own idiocy.

It is not a pay cut, but it is not a simple redistribution either. The teachers have one less week of paid work in 2019.

It’s like if a restaurant closed one weekend, so none of the waiters got to the opportunity to make money that weekend. But at least management paid out a bit of money based on future earnings.

It’s not a huge deal — again, it is not a permanent pay cut — but it is a small impact on upcoming pay.

No, they are being paid the exact same amount for actually 1 less day of work than in the previous year. It is not the same as changing the schedule for an hourly (with or without tips) worker, if they do not work those hours for that weekend, they do not earn the money and they do not receive pay for the work they missed. DCPS teachers are required to work a certain number of days (it is listed upthread, 195 days in the 2019-20 school year, 1 day less than in 2018-19). They are paid for these days usually over 26 pay periods. Those periods do not align with the 2019-2020 calendar without missing a pay period. DCPS, I suspect in order to avoid having teachers miss receiving pay in a pay period, decided to spread the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF PAY FOR THE EXACT SAME NUMBER OF DAYS OF WORK over 27 pay periods instead of 26. In some school districts teachers are not paid in the summer at all, they are paid during the school year only.

Incorrect. The school years are the same length (+/- 1 day), but the 2019-2020 school year starts a week later in 2019 than the 2018-2019 school year stared in 2018. Calendar year 2019 will have fewer working/earning days than calendar year 2018 or calendar year 2020.

Are they being paid the same amount for the year? They do not get a weekly salary, they get an annual salary, paying over different lengths of time doe snot make it a different amoutn.

Teacher A works 195 days and gets paid $100,000 over 10 months paid monthly
Teacher B works 195 days and gets paid $100,000 over 11 months paid weekly
Teacher C works 195 days and gets paid $100,00 over 54 weeks paid bi-weekly (27 pay periods - pay starting BEFORE working starts)

Which teacher is paid more per day of work? Answer - they ARE ALL PAID THE SAME AMOUNT FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who keep bashing the teachers’ math skills are showing their own idiocy.

It is not a pay cut, but it is not a simple redistribution either. The teachers have one less week of paid work in 2019.

It’s like if a restaurant closed one weekend, so none of the waiters got to the opportunity to make money that weekend. But at least management paid out a bit of money based on future earnings.

It’s not a huge deal — again, it is not a permanent pay cut — but it is a small impact on upcoming pay.

No, they are being paid the exact same amount for actually 1 less day of work than in the previous year. It is not the same as changing the schedule for an hourly (with or without tips) worker, if they do not work those hours for that weekend, they do not earn the money and they do not receive pay for the work they missed. DCPS teachers are required to work a certain number of days (it is listed upthread, 195 days in the 2019-20 school year, 1 day less than in 2018-19). They are paid for these days usually over 26 pay periods. Those periods do not align with the 2019-2020 calendar without missing a pay period. DCPS, I suspect in order to avoid having teachers miss receiving pay in a pay period, decided to spread the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF PAY FOR THE EXACT SAME NUMBER OF DAYS OF WORK over 27 pay periods instead of 26. In some school districts teachers are not paid in the summer at all, they are paid during the school year only.

Incorrect. The school years are the same length (+/- 1 day), but the 2019-2020 school year starts a week later in 2019 than the 2018-2019 school year stared in 2018. Calendar year 2019 will have fewer working/earning days than calendar year 2018 or calendar year 2020.

Calendar year? Why would you even mention calendar year when you are paid by school year? Surely the concept of school start date changing a bit from year to year is not new to you? Also, the whole point of the 27th pay period is to ensure that the late start date protects teachers against the pay gap since apparently they are so bad at budgeting they can’t afford to wait a week or two for their first check of the 19-20 school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The people who keep bashing the teachers’ math skills are showing their own idiocy.

It is not a pay cut, but it is not a simple redistribution either. The teachers have one less week of paid work in 2019.

It’s like if a restaurant closed one weekend, so none of the waiters got to the opportunity to make money that weekend. But at least management paid out a bit of money based on future earnings.

It’s not a huge deal — again, it is not a permanent pay cut — but it is a small impact on upcoming pay.

It's a bit more complicated. Teachers go back to work one week later, but the school year ends one week later in June. Additionally, how do you explain being docked for two weeks? Also, it might not be a big deal for some, but for others, it is a big deal. Finally, none of this is necessary and I doubt that it will stick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who keep bashing the teachers’ math skills are showing their own idiocy.

It is not a pay cut, but it is not a simple redistribution either. The teachers have one less week of paid work in 2019.

It’s like if a restaurant closed one weekend, so none of the waiters got to the opportunity to make money that weekend. But at least management paid out a bit of money based on future earnings.

It’s not a huge deal — again, it is not a permanent pay cut — but it is a small impact on upcoming pay.

It's a bit more complicated. Teachers go back to work one week later, but the school year ends one week later in June. Additionally, how do you explain being docked for two weeks? Also, it might not be a big deal for some, but for others, it is a big deal. Finally, none of this is necessary and I doubt that it will stick.

Please explain how teachers are "being docked for two weeks".

I completely understand that teachers are used to being paid every two weeks for an entire year for work they do during the school year. For this school year that pay timeline will cover 54 week, not 52. Nevertheless, they are being paid the exact same amount for the exact same amount of work. This is a function of how DCPS spreads a fixed amount of pay across an entire year instead of having the teachers being paid during the period they are working and live off savings the remaining two months. It is a function of the teaching calendar not aligning perfectly with a traditional bi-weekly pay schedule (where you are being paid for a specific two weeks of work that just occurred). What it is not is a pay cut.

This will stick, the other choices are an uncontracted for raise (not going to happen) or a two week gap in pay in 2020. Do you want the pay gap in 2020?

[Anonymous]

NOBODY IS BEING DOCKED ANY PAY! Why is this so hard for people to grasp??? Seriously I find this alarming as DC taxpayer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NOBODY IS BEING DOCKED ANY PAY! Why is this so hard for people to grasp??? Seriously I find this alarming as DC taxpayer.

I also find this very alarming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NOBODY IS BEING DOCKED ANY PAY! Why is this so hard for people to grasp??? Seriously I find this alarming as DC taxpayer.

I also find this very alarming.

You can call it anything you want, but it doesn't change the fact that teachers will not receive a regular two-week paycheck for one of the scheduled pay periods. This will result in a 3.7% reduction of their annual salary. No amount of redistributing of the next 26 pay checks will make up the difference.

[Anonymous]

Kind of Devils advocate here.. All of this last minute freaking out and misunderstanding could be avoided if DCPS would put their calendar out in advance.. Planing dates for 1-2-3 school years a head of time. No reason give they have access now to all of the dates, and holidays etc.. They can have the 20-21 calendar out as well. Then they can plan pay checks and give folks more notice for changes.
Though apparently no one thought to complain or raise heck about this when the calendar came out in April. So Idk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NOBODY IS BEING DOCKED ANY PAY! Why is this so hard for people to grasp??? Seriously I find this alarming as DC taxpayer.

I also find this very alarming.

You can call it anything you want, but it doesn't change the fact that teachers will not receive a regular two-week paycheck for one of the scheduled pay periods. This will result in a 3.7% reduction of their annual salary. No amount of redistributing of the next 26 pay checks will make up the difference.

Wait... what? Where are you getting that information? The original post stated that DCPS sent a note that the compensation would be spread over 27 checks.

“School Year 2019-2020 begins one pay period later than the school year started for School Year 2018-2019. This results in 27 pay periods between the start of School Year 2018-2019 and start of School Year 2019-2020, rather than the typical 26 pay periods. As a result of this schedule, there would be a one pay period gap in all 10-month teachers' pay if no action is taken.

To ensure there is no gap in pay, we will start 10-month educators’ compensation for School Year 2019-2020 one pay period before you actually return to work on August 19 (the pay period from August 4-17), and your compensation for School Year 2019-2020 will be spread evenly across 27 paychecks through August 15, 2020. ”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NOBODY IS BEING DOCKED ANY PAY! Why is this so hard for people to grasp??? Seriously I find this alarming as DC taxpayer.

I also find this very alarming.

You can call it anything you want, but it doesn't change the fact that teachers will not receive a regular two-week paycheck for one of the scheduled pay periods. This will result in a 3.7% reduction of their annual salary. No amount of redistributing of the next 26 pay checks will make up the difference.

It's the opposite! There is no gap in pay. But because there are 27 instead of 26 pay periods, each paycheck is reduced. But you get an extra paycheck. IS OUR CHILDREN LEARNING MATH????????!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NOBODY IS BEING DOCKED ANY PAY! Why is this so hard for people to grasp??? Seriously I find this alarming as DC taxpayer.

I also find this very alarming.

You can call it anything you want, but it doesn't change the fact that teachers will not receive a regular two-week paycheck for one of the scheduled pay periods. This will result in a 3.7% reduction of their annual salary. No amount of redistributing of the next 26 pay checks will make up the difference.

NO IT DOES NOT. Please find a colleague or department head in real life who can explain this to you. You are wrong and you are part of the problem if you continue to spread misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the will help, the teachers are paid by the school year, NOT the calendar year. Because of the one week adjustment in calendars this summer, it will fall across 27 pp, not 26. NO Pay cut, just a different pay schedule that spreads the contracted amount over more weeks because the school year is longer. The longer school year is a calendar issue, it does not require the teachers to work an extra week.

Same work, same pay, different distribution. Even so, it is very likely a significant inconvenience for teachers that have gotten used to biweekly paychecks year round. They will have lower paychecks than they are used to, but even so that is the nature of how teachers are paid.

[Anonymous]

Jeebus. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, after observing DCPS employees over several years, but JEEBUS.