3.7% pay cut for DCPS teachers for SY 19-20

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If teachers are paid an annual salary, there should be no gap weeks. A salary is a salary. A year is a year.

But when does the year begin? It begins at the start of the school year. So go 26 pay periods from the start of the 2018-2019 school year and stop. Then start school a week later for 2019-2020, and account for two-week pay periods. You get a missing week. If they just go year to year they end up over paying by a week.

It is a pay cut!!! Look up dcps pay period schedule. It starts in January and ends in December. It doesn’t matter when we start and when we end. BUTTT if it did, we are not starting a week later. Look at the past years- we start the same week every year on the day that begins on the Monday. Compare start and end date 2011-2012 & 2012-2013 school year with this years and next years. It is a pay cut- they are doing it to teachers because they think we are dumb and would realize it...and skimming through these responses are kind of scary. When you talk to HR, they lie and try to confuse you. One person called and the person told them that we are hourly employees (WE OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT) I spoke to someone- he tried to tell me that dcps used to give teachers 2 weeks of Admin pay and they are not doing it this year- that’s why this years salary is split into 27 pay periods. So I questioned the guy “If dcps paid us an extra pay period of admin pay, we should’ve received our salary plus an extra two week pay?” ITS A PAY CUT AND TEACHERS NEED TO STOP BELIEVEINF DCPS!! When was the last time they made a good choice for teachers?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are paid an annual salary, there should be no gap weeks. A salary is a salary. A year is a year.

But when does the year begin? It begins at the start of the school year. So go 26 pay periods from the start of the 2018-2019 school year and stop. Then start school a week later for 2019-2020, and account for two-week pay periods. You get a missing week. If they just go year to year they end up over paying by a week.

It is a pay cut!!! Look up dcps pay period schedule. It starts in January and ends in December. It doesn’t matter when we start and when we end. BUTTT if it did, we are not starting a week later. Look at the past years- we start the same week every year on the day that begins on the Monday. Compare start and end date 2011-2012 & 2012-2013 school year with this years and next years. It is a pay cut- they are doing it to teachers because they think we are dumb and would realize it...and skimming through these responses are kind of scary. When you talk to HR, they lie and try to confuse you. One person called and the person told them that we are hourly employees (WE OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT) I spoke to someone- he tried to tell me that dcps used to give teachers 2 weeks of Admin pay and they are not doing it this year- that’s why this years salary is split into 27 pay periods. So I questioned the guy “If dcps paid us an extra pay period of admin pay, we should’ve received our salary plus an extra two week pay?” ITS A PAY CUT AND TEACHERS NEED TO STOP BELIEVEINF DCPS!! When was the last time they made a good choice for teachers?!?!

Are you under the impression that exclamation points and all caps make your point more valid? I bet you talk louder when you travel to other countries and non-English speakers don't understand your English.

[Anonymous]

STOP! BEING! A! JERK!

[Anonymous]

IT’S! A! PAY! CUT!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IT’S! A! PAY! CUT!

Idiot Quit teaching NOW

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IT’S! A! PAY! CUT!

Tbh I don’t think these comments are from a teacher. It’s summer. Most aren’t checking dcum. & the WTU candidate who was labeling this as a pay cut lost the election. The sad thing is he is & was likely better than liz Davis. What a mess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Given the 13 pages of this thread, over something which should be quite simple, my takeaway is: teachers do not trust, even slightly, their employer to NOT sneak in an illegal pay cut, even WITH their union protections. THAT is nuts to me. I mean if it were just suspicion of ordinary DC government incompetence, maybe, but you also have a watchdog fighting for every contract detail. So, you not only don't trust DC but you don't even trust WTU, who you pay to watch this kind of thing for you.

I posted this way back on page 2 or 3. When you want to be a victim, you’ll find ways to be a victim. Some teachers are perpetual victims of DCPS and will always be. They are welcome to choose an employer who isn’t “cutting” 3.7% of their pay, but they would rather argue it out here. As far as I know, no one has quit or field a formal grievance and I haven’t heard anything from WTU about the issue.

And as for trusting WTU, they never respond to my messages, so not sure I trust them when I need them.

Waiting for the resolution. I have faith it will come. BTW, refusing to let an employer arbitrarily reduce your compensation is not evidence of being a victim. It is the opposite.

Refusing to see all the crystal clear evidence that you are NOT in fact getting paid a cent less certainly seems to me like you are refusing to be anything other than a victim of DCPS. I’m also a DCPS teacher.

I wish Jeff could look back and tell us if it’s just one person refusing to understand. Everyone I have talked to in person about this has zero problem getting it.

Did you talk to your building rep?

Probably not a DCPS teacher.

[Anonymous]

Refusing to see all the crystal clear evidence that you are NOT in fact getting paid a cent less certainly seems to me like you are refusing to be anything other than a victim of DCPS. I’m also a DCPS teacher.


Check PeopleSoft. Payroll is classifying the last week of school as "Non Pay Hours".

[Anonymous]

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Refusing to see all the crystal clear evidence that you are NOT in fact getting paid a cent less certainly seems to me like you are refusing to be anything other than a victim of DCPS. I’m also a DCPS teacher.

Check PeopleSoft. Payroll is classifying the last week of school as "Non Pay Hours".

I did. My pay this Friday will be $300 higher than normal!!!

[Anonymous]

Why are they using our Summer pay account to pay for the last week of school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Refusing to see all the crystal clear evidence that you are NOT in fact getting paid a cent less certainly seems to me like you are refusing to be anything other than a victim of DCPS. I’m also a DCPS teacher.

Check PeopleSoft. Payroll is classifying the last week of school as "Non Pay Hours".

I did. My pay this Friday will be $300 higher than normal!!!

This is highly suspect
1. using Summer Payoff to pay for a week that we were working
2. paying for one additional day (the last of day of school, which came the following Monday)

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't deduct that extra $300 you are so excited about from a future paycheck

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Refusing to see all the crystal clear evidence that you are NOT in fact getting paid a cent less certainly seems to me like you are refusing to be anything other than a victim of DCPS. I’m also a DCPS teacher.

Check PeopleSoft. Payroll is classifying the last week of school as "Non Pay Hours".

I did. My pay this Friday will be $300 higher than normal!!!

This is highly suspect
1. using Summer Payoff to pay for a week that we were working
2. paying for one additional day (the last of day of school, which came the following Monday)

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't deduct that extra $300 you are so excited about from a future paycheck


What did they say when you called Payroll?

[Anonymous]

It’s on the paystub

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s on the paystub

I know, but since it suspect I assume the poster who thinks it’s wrong called HR to find out what’s going on. Because your 3.7% (not a) “cut” will also be on your paystub, but people refuse to believe that works out ok.

[Anonymous]

It's not a pay cut. It's a furlough. And this is what's behind it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/the-districts-public-school-system-faces-23-million-deficit-drawing-criticism/2019/07/14/a3df040c-a252-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html?utm_term=.85362c5ddf93