Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

[Anonymous]

The parents of the boy who threw it in the pool should pay. Tacky not to offer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.

Which party to the interaction? It’s heated enough without adding politics!
Curious all those that say they would pay if their kids damage it. Do you have a monetary limit? What if it’s a $15,000 handbag? Still in? The cost of an iPhone could be a substantial amount to many parents.

Then I guess it would be a painful lesson for why you need to watch your kids. If your kid damages someone else’s property, you as the parent are responsible. There’s no way around it. Those justifying that parents of the phone thrower don’t need to pay are raising some entitled brats. Good luck in the future. It’s going to be expensive.

This is so lacking in self-awareness it’s funny.

The adult expecting other people to pay for her phone is the entitled brat.

So the adult who is mixing their own business with their items near them is the brat?

Not the toddler running freely by a pool with no adult actively watching them? Not the child that walks up to someone else’s belongings, picks up the phone and throws it in the pool?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't iPhone pretty water resistant now? I realize submerging it may not be great, but I thought they had that whole commercial of the guy riding his bike in the pouring rain?

You're assuming that everyone has the latest iPhone. Probably not a good assumption.

Except that if it's an old iPhone it's not worth much anyhow (and thus isn't $800 to replace, but more like $100). The only way this is a huge deal is if it's the newest one on the market.

No? I have a 7 Plus, far from the newest on the market, and $100 would not even come close to replacing it or any model near it really. Bad information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

You are super defensive and crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A child under 7 should have the caretakers undivided attention and be in arms reach at all time. Constant active supervision is required at all times. Are there not signs posted all around the pool area stating such? That the phone got broken, indicates that Mom failed to follow pool policy. Often on the pool signage it will indicated they may be suspended from or refused entry into the facility for failure to comply with policy.

What the heck?
We have seven year olds competing on swim team. You want them within arms reach?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child under 7 should have the caretakers undivided attention and be in arms reach at all time. Constant active supervision is required at all times. Are there not signs posted all around the pool area stating such? That the phone got broken, indicates that Mom failed to follow pool policy. Often on the pool signage it will indicated they may be suspended from or refused entry into the facility for failure to comply with policy.

What the heck?
We have seven year olds competing on swim team. You want them within arms reach?

+1. My 5 year old was on the swim team winning races. He definitely did not need to be in arms reach. Do you even have children who are older than toddlers? Maybe invest in some swim lessons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

You are super defensive and crazy.

Says the person who doesn’t believe it’s important to watch their child at a pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

You are super defensive and crazy.

Says the person who doesn’t believe it’s important to watch their child at a pool.

You made quite the jump to kids drowning and lots of accusations. So, yeah, crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

So the other day I was sitting with my toddler eating lunch WITHIN ARMS REACH. I know she likes to dump her food out and she still managed to dump it out with me sitting right next to her. That doesn’t mean she’s unsupervised and she’s going to choke.
Toddlers are fast and unpredictable. Just like a child at the pool being able to grab a toy does not mean they are unsupervised and going to drown. And I find it hard to believe you have witnessed multiple parents just “standing right next to their child while their child is drowning”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child under 7 should have the caretakers undivided attention and be in arms reach at all time. Constant active supervision is required at all times. Are there not signs posted all around the pool area stating such? That the phone got broken, indicates that Mom failed to follow pool policy. Often on the pool signage it will indicated they may be suspended from or refused entry into the facility for failure to comply with policy.

What the heck?
We have seven year olds competing on swim team. You want them within arms reach?

They can drown too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

So the other day I was sitting with my toddler eating lunch WITHIN ARMS REACH. I know she likes to dump her food out and she still managed to dump it out with me sitting right next to her. That doesn’t mean she’s unsupervised and she’s going to choke.
Toddlers are fast and unpredictable. Just like a child at the pool being able to grab a toy does not mean they are unsupervised and going to drown. And I find it hard to believe you have witnessed multiple parents just “standing right next to their child while their child is drowning”.

It means you change you parenting and give one piece of food at a time until they can stop dumping it all out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child under 7 should have the caretakers undivided attention and be in arms reach at all time. Constant active supervision is required at all times. Are there not signs posted all around the pool area stating such? That the phone got broken, indicates that Mom failed to follow pool policy. Often on the pool signage it will indicated they may be suspended from or refused entry into the facility for failure to comply with policy.

What the heck?
We have seven year olds competing on swim team. You want them within arms reach?

+1. My 5 year old was on the swim team winning races. He definitely did not need to be in arms reach. Do you even have children who are older than toddlers? Maybe invest in some swim lessons?

If its summer team in a lower division, not hard to win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

So the other day I was sitting with my toddler eating lunch WITHIN ARMS REACH. I know she likes to dump her food out and she still managed to dump it out with me sitting right next to her. That doesn’t mean she’s unsupervised and she’s going to choke.
Toddlers are fast and unpredictable. Just like a child at the pool being able to grab a toy does not mean they are unsupervised and going to drown. And I find it hard to believe you have witnessed multiple parents just “standing right next to their child while their child is drowning”.

NP. Tough call on the phone. Both parties are in the wrong I guess.

And in drowning prevention awareness once we did have to “rescue” DD in between DH and me. She was sitting with him on the steps and I was talking to him a foot away and she apparently decided she wanted to come to me and slipped under. It was so quiet. No thrashing like you imagine. She was fine. I noticed after like 1 second but it was still scary how quiet it was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.

Lol
It's funny that you are stating your political affiliation, but I'll play.

I am a conservative Republican and I think the phone owner is a jerk if she accepts money. I stated in a previous post that if it was my kid, I'd offer to pay just to keep up neighborly relations, but I'd think a lot less of the phone owner if she accepted my money.

I agree, it's funny PP asked. And I am with you 10000% that I would offer to pay because it's the right thing to do but if the person took money from me, I'd think less of her.

(in case you missed it)

Party | Definition of Party by Merriam-Webster
(Entry 1 of 2) 1 : a person or group taking one side of a question, dispute, or contest The parties in the lawsuit reached an agreement. 2 : a group of persons organized for the purpose of directing the policies of a government political parties with opposing agendas.

The question asked was which side of the dispute is the OP on? Can’t believe it’s that hard to understand.

Sorry- it was an honest mistake.

So funny! I get it, sometimes I read too quickly or post without thinking. But it was funny that you proclaimed your political affiliation as a non-sequitur.

Dying laughing!

Ok this exchange is actually hilarious.