Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

[Anonymous]

Haven’t read the whole thread but aren’t iPhone 7’s or later waterproof or at least water resistant?

[Anonymous]

Don't leave your phone I the edge of a baby pool if you don't want it to get wet or end up I three pool? Just a thought. I'd feel like a complete idiot if my phone got thrown into the pool in this situation.

[Anonymous]

Parents of phone thrower should pay and also learn to watch their kid better. It doesn’t matter if it’s a phone or a pair of sunglasses or a book. You teach them young not to grab other people’s things. I’m sorry parenting is so very hard for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any person who brings their phone within throwing distance of a body of water AND puts it down somewhere where she cannot grab it before a 2 year old, is responsible for doing so. When I am at the pool with my children, my phone goes into a bag when it is not in my hand. If I leave it out, even on a lounger where a running 2 year old could get to it, I am responsible for leaving it out.

Sorry, but you do something stupid you bear the risk.

That said, if my child did this, I would offer to pay or split the cost just as a courtesy, but I am not under any obligation to do so.

I completely agree with this. Though I would be offering to pay since my child threw it, I would be thinking what an idiot this parent was placing the phone down at the edge of the pool.

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Anonymous wrote:A child under 7 should have the caretakers undivided attention and be in arms reach at all time. Constant active supervision is required at all times. Are there not signs posted all around the pool area stating such? That the phone got broken, indicates that Mom failed to follow pool policy. Often on the pool signage it will indicated they may be suspended from or refused entry into the facility for failure to comply with policy.

What the heck?
We have seven year olds competing on swim team. You want them within arms reach?

They can drown too.

Anyone can drown. Adults too. What is your point? Keeeping then “within arms reach” isn’t the answer. Teaching them how to swim and water safety is.

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Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

You are super defensive and crazy.

Says the person who doesn’t believe it’s important to watch their child at a pool.

You made quite the jump to kids drowning and lots of accusations. So, yeah, crazy.

I love ppl like you. Everyone is crazy so that your narrative can win.

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Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

So the other day I was sitting with my toddler eating lunch WITHIN ARMS REACH. I know she likes to dump her food out and she still managed to dump it out with me sitting right next to her. That doesn’t mean she’s unsupervised and she’s going to choke.
Toddlers are fast and unpredictable. Just like a child at the pool being able to grab a toy does not mean they are unsupervised and going to drown. And I find it hard to believe you have witnessed multiple parents just “standing right next to their child while their child is drowning”.

Actually that’s exactly what it means. Kids can choke quickly. Kids love to shove food in their mouths and if you aren’t watching it happens quickly and quietly. If your child is able to grab a phone and toss it then you aren’t watching your child. You can spin it anyway you want but clearly you aren’t watching your child. If you’ve never seen a child almost drown then you will never get it but children drowning is very real. It happens very quick and very quietly. It’s very much like choking. You don’t hear it and it takes a split second. So you continue to think you are doing something by just standing there. I will continue to actually watch my children.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents of phone thrower should pay and also learn to watch their kid better. It doesn’t matter if it’s a phone or a pair of sunglasses or a book. You teach them young not to grab other people’s things. I’m sorry parenting is so very hard for you.

+1

I want to say I’m amazed about all the parents shifting blame and responsibility away from their child and themselves but I’m not. I’ve worked in public schools and with kids. It’s always someone else’s fault.

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Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

So the other day I was sitting with my toddler eating lunch WITHIN ARMS REACH. I know she likes to dump her food out and she still managed to dump it out with me sitting right next to her. That doesn’t mean she’s unsupervised and she’s going to choke.
Toddlers are fast and unpredictable. Just like a child at the pool being able to grab a toy does not mean they are unsupervised and going to drown. And I find it hard to believe you have witnessed multiple parents just “standing right next to their child while their child is drowning”.

Actually that’s exactly what it means. Kids can choke quickly. Kids love to shove food in their mouths and if you aren’t watching it happens quickly and quietly. If your child is able to grab a phone and toss it then you aren’t watching your child. You can spin it anyway you want but clearly you aren’t watching your child. If you’ve never seen a child almost drown then you will never get it but children drowning is very real. It happens very quick and very quietly. It’s very much like choking. You don’t hear it and it takes a split second. So you continue to think you are doing something by just standing there. I will continue to actually watch my children.

You should get help for your anxiety. Seriously. It isn't healthy to go from dumping food to shoving it in your mouth to choking and always be worried about the worst possible outcome.

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Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.

Which party to the interaction? It’s heated enough without adding politics!
Curious all those that say they would pay if their kids damage it. Do you have a monetary limit? What if it’s a $15,000 handbag? Still in? The cost of an iPhone could be a substantial amount to many parents.

Then I guess it would be a painful lesson for why you need to watch your kids. If your kid damages someone else’s property, you as the parent are responsible. There’s no way around it. Those justifying that parents of the phone thrower don’t need to pay are raising some entitled brats. Good luck in the future. It’s going to be expensive.

This is so lacking in self-awareness it’s funny.

The adult expecting other people to pay for her phone is the entitled brat.

So the adult who is mixing their own business with their items near them is the brat?

Not the toddler running freely by a pool with no adult actively watching them? Not the child that walks up to someone else’s belongings, picks up the phone and throws it in the pool?

Yes, if you put your phone in the middle of a bunch of water toys in the baby pool, there is a good chance a kid will throw it in the water.

And yes, your attitude makes you an entitled brat.

Stay away from the baby pool if you can’t handle being around babies. How is this hard to understand?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, is the thrower your kid? People have asked what you meant by “edge of the pool,” but you haven’t replied.

Yes, I've asked twice already. Thanks for reminding OP

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Anonymous wrote:Parents of phone thrower should pay and also learn to watch their kid better. It doesn’t matter if it’s a phone or a pair of sunglasses or a book. You teach them young not to grab other people’s things. I’m sorry parenting is so very hard for you.

+1

I want to say I’m amazed about all the parents shifting blame and responsibility away from their child and themselves but I’m not. I’ve worked in public schools and with kids. It’s always someone else’s fault.

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This explains a lot. There is no way I would try to shift the blame to someone else if my kid picked up someone's personal property and threw it. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.

Lol
It's funny that you are stating your political affiliation, but I'll play.

I am a conservative Republican and I think the phone owner is a jerk if she accepts money. I stated in a previous post that if it was my kid, I'd offer to pay just to keep up neighborly relations, but I'd think a lot less of the phone owner if she accepted my money.

I agree, it's funny PP asked. And I am with you 10000% that I would offer to pay because it's the right thing to do but if the person took money from me, I'd think less of her.

(in case you missed it)

It doesn’t mean political party. Use context!

literally LOLed that the liberal democrat and conservative republican both didnt understand the question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you leave your phone on the counter in the mall, it will get stolen. Your fault for leaving it there.

If you leave your phone on the floor in the garage and a kid rides their bike over it and breaks it, your fault again - because it is your responsibility to keep track of.

If you have your phone stored in your purse at the mall, and someone sneaks in your purse and steals it - their fault.

If you have your phone in your purse, and someone takes it and puts it outside and damages it intentionally, their fault.

The mom who placed it by the side of the pool is 100% to blame and deserves $0 compensation. If it was waterproof enough to sit in the puddles and wetness next to a BABY POOL, which is intrinsically wet for many feet outside of the pool - then it would not be damaged by a brief submersion either.

This.

also, OP, is the thrower your kid? People have asked what you meant by “edge of the pool,” but you haven’t replied. Come back, or are you too ashamed?

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Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

Well let’s see, a child can drown in the tub with water that comes to their ankles. Do you just stand back, walk back and forth to other rooms or do you actively watch your child? It takes a split second for an accident to happen at a pool and no time for a child to drown. I’ve seen parents like you, who are “supervising” but really just standing right next to their child while their child is drowning in the water. Luckily, the parents who are actually watching their children have jumped in while that mother looked like an idiot. But hey, you’re there so you’re supervising right? It’s just water. If your child slips, it’s the pools fault for making the water so wet. If your child throws a phone in the pool it’s someone else’s fault. If your child hits another child it’s the other child fault for being so hittable. If your child swings their door open and hits another car it’s the others car fault for parking next to you.

So the other day I was sitting with my toddler eating lunch WITHIN ARMS REACH. I know she likes to dump her food out and she still managed to dump it out with me sitting right next to her. That doesn’t mean she’s unsupervised and she’s going to choke.
Toddlers are fast and unpredictable. Just like a child at the pool being able to grab a toy does not mean they are unsupervised and going to drown. And I find it hard to believe you have witnessed multiple parents just “standing right next to their child while their child is drowning”.

Actually that’s exactly what it means. Kids can choke quickly. Kids love to shove food in their mouths and if you aren’t watching it happens quickly and quietly. If your child is able to grab a phone and toss it then you aren’t watching your child. You can spin it anyway you want but clearly you aren’t watching your child. If you’ve never seen a child almost drown then you will never get it but children drowning is very real. It happens very quick and very quietly. It’s very much like choking. You don’t hear it and it takes a split second. So you continue to think you are doing something by just standing there. I will continue to actually watch my children.

You should get help for your anxiety. Seriously. It isn't healthy to go from dumping food to shoving it in your mouth to choking and always be worried about the worst possible outcome.

Yeah ok.

Parenting is a skill and not everyone has it. As shown by ppl who are so nonchalant about toddlers in general. And parents who honestly believe everyone else is at fault when their child misbehaves. I’ll continue to parent my child while you end up in situations like OP described, or worse.