Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many many years ago, we were at a gathering where one child bit the other. The parents of the child who got bit asked for urgent care reimbursement from the parents of the kid who did the biting. So very tacky!

What?! Those parents were fully responsible and it’s tacky that they had to be asked to do the right thing.

This is so much worse than a phone. The parents of the biter are jerks for not stepping up immediately. Wow. People have no decency.

That's nuts.

[Anonymous]

A parent should be closely supervising a toddler at a pool. If the parent had supervised, they would have redirected the toddler away for the parent with the phone to something more appropriate. Its fine to have your phone to take a picture of your kid but you should keep it in a waterproof case. Parents need to supervise their kids better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look, if the owner of the phone is responsible for putting her phone in a safe place, the parent of the child is responsible for making sure that a two-year-old doesn't just pick up the phone and toss it.


While it may seem negligent on the phone owner's part, this was not an accident.

2 year olds are not responsible enough for their actions to hold them accountable.

This is why parents are the proxy and sometimes we parents have to deal with the actions of our kids esp if we are not watching them.

If a child is not old enough to know better to not throw a phone support, that child is not old enough to be unsupervised in the pool area

Exactly! I don’t know why this is so hard for people to understand. And if I was the mom whose phone got thrown into a pool, I have insurance on my phone, and of course I would refuse the other mom’s offer to replace my phone. This is how it works.

Yes - but even if a parent was 12 inches away this could still happen.

For those that disagree with this logic, would you just tell the mom whose phone your child threw in the pool, oh, sorry, I guess you should take better care of your phone next time? Would you apologize? I’m not trying to be an asshole, I’m asking seriously how you would handle it if you don’t think your child or you are responsible for what happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be mortified and offer to pay. I don't agree that setting your phone down next to a baby pool is asking to have it thrown in the pool. And even if it is, the parent of the child should still offer to pay. What do you people do if your child breaks something in a store, say, "Oh well they shouldn't have put jars down that low, not my problem" and flounce out, leaving a mess on the floor?

Actually, a bunch of you probably would.

Yes, but this is not a store - it is a kiddie pool where kids are supposed to be playing! Kids are not supposed to be playing in a store.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look, if the owner of the phone is responsible for putting her phone in a safe place, the parent of the child is responsible for making sure that a two-year-old doesn't just pick up the phone and toss it.


While it may seem negligent on the phone owner's part, this was not an accident.

2 year olds are not responsible enough for their actions to hold them accountable.

This is why parents are the proxy and sometimes we parents have to deal with the actions of our kids esp if we are not watching them.

If a child is not old enough to know better to not throw a phone support, that child is not old enough to be unsupervised in the pool area

Exactly! I don’t know why this is so hard for people to understand. And if I was the mom whose phone got thrown into a pool, I have insurance on my phone, and of course I would refuse the other mom’s offer to replace my phone. This is how it works.

Yes - but even if a parent was 12 inches away this could still happen.

For those that disagree with this logic, would you just tell the mom whose phone your child threw in the pool, oh, sorry, I guess you should take better care of your phone next time? Would you apologize? I’m not trying to be an asshole, I’m asking seriously how you would handle it if you don’t think your child or you are responsible for what happened.

Most of us don't pay for insurance on our phones. A year of insurance you can get a new phone. All kids need to be supervised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parent of phone thrower should offer to pay. Parent who put the phone down near the baby pool should refuse the offer.

Exactly this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.

Which party to the interaction? It’s heated enough without adding politics!
Curious all those that say they would pay if their kids damage it. Do you have a monetary limit? What if it’s a $15,000 handbag? Still in? The cost of an iPhone could be a substantial amount to many parents.

Then I guess it would be a painful lesson for why you need to watch your kids. If your kid damages someone else’s property, you as the parent are responsible. There’s no way around it. Those justifying that parents of the phone thrower don’t need to pay are raising some entitled brats. Good luck in the future. It’s going to be expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.

Which party to the interaction? It’s heated enough without adding politics!
Curious all those that say they would pay if their kids damage it. Do you have a monetary limit? What if it’s a $15,000 handbag? Still in? The cost of an iPhone could be a substantial amount to many parents.

Then I guess it would be a painful lesson for why you need to watch your kids. If your kid damages someone else’s property, you as the parent are responsible. There’s no way around it. Those justifying that parents of the phone thrower don’t need to pay are raising some entitled brats. Good luck in the future. It’s going to be expensive.

This is so lacking in self-awareness it’s funny.

The adult expecting other people to pay for her phone is the entitled brat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

Well this explains why I’ve seen so many children close to drowning in the kiddie pool. Didn’t realize it was acceptable to just let your child wander around a kiddie pool. I mean it’s just water right?

Oh cmon. You don’t know the difference between supervising and hovering? You don’t need to be on top of your child to supervise them at the pool.

It’s like leaving your sunglasses on the floor and being mad when someone steps on them. Take care of your property.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.

Which party to the interaction? It’s heated enough without adding politics!
Curious all those that say they would pay if their kids damage it. Do you have a monetary limit? What if it’s a $15,000 handbag? Still in? The cost of an iPhone could be a substantial amount to many parents.

Then I guess it would be a painful lesson for why you need to watch your kids. If your kid damages someone else’s property, you as the parent are responsible. There’s no way around it. Those justifying that parents of the phone thrower don’t need to pay are raising some entitled brats. Good luck in the future. It’s going to be expensive.

This is so lacking in self-awareness it’s funny.

The adult expecting other people to pay for her phone is the entitled brat.

+1

[Anonymous]

OP, is the thrower your kid? People have asked what you meant by “edge of the pool,” but you haven’t replied.

[Anonymous]

Split the cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, to me, is very similar to the concept of attractive nuisance in law. The adult is in the baby area and should be aware to put the phone away. Those of you saying the parents need to supervise are unreasonable. It could happen so fast if it was just on the edge of the pool. Do you really expect the parents to be hovering over their child in the baby/shallow area? You go in that area so your toddler can have some freedom to run in a safe and shallow and usually fenced area. The adult who left the phone out is responsible.

It would be kind of the parent to offer to pay, but that’s a lot of money to cough up for an adult’s carelessness.

OP, I’m curious which party you are? Update us.

I'm not the OP, but I am a liberal Democrat and I think the parent of the toddler should pay. I think the adult who left her phone by the pool was an idiot, but if my kid breaks someone's property, I offer to repair or replace it.

Which party to the interaction? It’s heated enough without adding politics!
Curious all those that say they would pay if their kids damage it. Do you have a monetary limit? What if it’s a $15,000 handbag? Still in? The cost of an iPhone could be a substantial amount to many parents.

Then I guess it would be a painful lesson for why you need to watch your kids. If your kid damages someone else’s property, you as the parent are responsible. There’s no way around it. Those justifying that parents of the phone thrower don’t need to pay are raising some entitled brats. Good luck in the future. It’s going to be expensive.

This is so lacking in self-awareness it’s funny.

The adult expecting other people to pay for her phone is the entitled brat.

+1

You break it, you buy it.

[Anonymous]

A child under 7 should have the caretakers undivided attention and be in arms reach at all time. Constant active supervision is required at all times. Are there not signs posted all around the pool area stating such? That the phone got broken, indicates that Mom failed to follow pool policy. Often on the pool signage it will indicated they may be suspended from or refused entry into the facility for failure to comply with policy.