Michigan over Cornell?

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Anonymous wrote:Not racist. GA state is a hard no for us but Howard, Spellman and Moorehouse were considered. Kids went top 10 to schools scoring high in every survey but teaching. So not racist at all. But GA State a very hard no.

Actually Georgia State is considered one of those punching above it’s weight schools in higher ed policy circles. It has large numbers of racially diverse, first generation, and Pell grant students and it’s graduation rate is markedly higher than solitary colleges. Not everyone gets to choose between an ivy and top 10 flagship and I’m glad there are public colleges like Georgia state out there transforming ppls lives.

*similar not solitary

By the way there are no state schools
In the top 10 of any major survey

How do you define major survey? Because there are state schools in the top 10 of many dept rankings as well as law school, medical school, and business school rankings. Of course, you'll just limit the scope of your definition of "major survey" until it supports your irrational disdain towards state schools.

It is completely idiotic to believe there are 10 schools that are better than the rest, just as it is nonsense to think the #10 on the list is "worse" than the #1 on the list.

Exactly. Also, it's insane to me that people still put stock in these rankings, despite the articles that have come out detailing how schools explicitly engineer things like acceptance rate, endowment, etc. to improve their ranking.

Take UChicago: It was always ranked high, but back when my sister and I applied (she went; I got in but went elsewhere) the acceptance rate was around 30% because the applicant pool was self-selective. My sister was the only person in her graduating class at a top NYC prep school to get into UChicago because they were looking for a very specific type of kid. I had a high school classmate who got into Penn and ended up being a Rhodes Scholar, but was rejected from UChicago.

Then they decided to start taking the Common App. As anyone could have predicted, their acceptance rate plummeted and their USNWR ranking shot up. Now tons of people have suddenly decided "UChicago got better."

It's a ruse; stop falling for the game, people.

Chicago is known for gaming the US News ranking a little bit. It should be ranked somewhere between 7 - 10. But Chicago will always rank higher than Michigan. The same is true for Cornell vs Michigan.

Harvard games it too. All schools do.

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This isn't a real question, it's a message board hypothetical usually floated by alums or parents with a kid headed to the inferior school. Nobody chooses a huge public university over a private Ivy unless they're hopeless simpletons.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't a real question, it's a message board hypothetical usually floated by alums or parents with a kid headed to the inferior school. Nobody chooses a huge public university over a private Ivy unless they're hopeless simpletons.

Except Cornell is half public and also a huge university. Back in my day dozens of kids from my high school went there. Funny story, I was chatting with a classmate at my 20 year high school reunion, and we figured out that we had both gone to Cornell after graduation. I literally never bumped into him over the course of four years there.

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Conan had it right as far as Cornell goes.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't a real question, it's a message board hypothetical usually floated by alums or parents with a kid headed to the inferior school. Nobody chooses a huge public university over a private Ivy unless they're hopeless simpletons.

Except Cornell is half public and also a huge university. Back in my day dozens of kids from my high school went there. Funny story, I was chatting with a classmate at my 20 year high school reunion, and we figured out that we had both gone to Cornell after graduation. I literally never bumped into him over the course of four years there.

Every year 1/3 of TJ grads apply to Cornell. Usually around 10-12% are accepted, which is the overall acceptance rate. It is obviously a very selective college. All colleges were easier to get into "back in your day."

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't a real question, it's a message board hypothetical usually floated by alums or parents with a kid headed to the inferior school. Nobody chooses a huge public university over a private Ivy unless they're hopeless simpletons.

Except Cornell is half public and also a huge university. Back in my day dozens of kids from my high school went there. Funny story, I was chatting with a classmate at my 20 year high school reunion, and we figured out that we had both gone to Cornell after graduation. I literally never bumped into him over the course of four years there.

Every year 1/3 of TJ grads apply to Cornell. Usually around 10-12% are accepted, which is the overall acceptance rate. It is obviously a very selective college. All colleges were easier to get into "back in your day."

14 TJ students to Cornell. 12 to Michigan. Class of '17 was 17 to Michigan and 13 to Cornell.

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61% of students admitted to both schools choose Cornell and I'd guess that cost was a factor in those choosing Michigan.

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Anonymous wrote:61% of students admitted to both schools choose Cornell and I'd guess that cost was a factor in those choosing Michigan.

Oh yes, Michigan is just full of the poors.

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Michigan grad very familiar with Cornell. Academically it's splitting hairs. For networking, hard to beat the fact that Michigan has 600,000 graduates everywhere. How would I choose except the fact that Michigan is several times bigger? If your child is going to be on the East Coast forever, Cornell.

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Anonymous wrote:Does she know where she wants to be after graduation? If NYC, then I think Cornell has the advantage. Easy access to NYC by bus throughout school year, a ton of New York classmates, lots of opportunities to meet students from other nearby schools who will wind up in NYC.

Otherwise, I think both are great schools. I went to one for undergrad and the other for grad school and enjoyed both.

Michigan alumni have a huge presence in NYC.

I lived in NYC for a few years and I honestly think I met more UMich people living there than I did living in Michigan (suburban Detroit).

The Michigan people leave Michigan and the Michigan State crowd usually stays.

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Both are good schools. It’s a good time for her to grow up and realize her hometown friend’s families’ opinions will not have a hold on her own happiness and life choices. The sooner she learns this, the happier she will be.

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Anonymous wrote:Both are good schools. It’s a good time for her to grow up and realize her hometown friend’s families’ opinions will not have a hold on her own happiness and life choices. The sooner she learns this, the happier she will be.

Don't you think OPs DC has made her choice by now and is well into her first semester of college?

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I'm sure she made her choice. With the bump, it'd be nice to hear which she chose.

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You, sir, are a real jerk. You are not funny. Get help.