Michigan over Cornell?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell: The easiest Ivy to get in and the hardest to graduate.

The classes are tough and the competition even more tough. It is not like Harvard, Brown, or MIT - easier grading and more collaborative.

My daughter has two friends at Cornell. One is a 2021 Class and is pretty happy. She is in a pretty easy major, was pretty lucky to get in, and has been grateful and enjoying being able to be there. Hates the weather, not a fan of Ithica, but not regrets.

She also has a friend that is 2022 and is very smart and worked her butt off to get there. She has had a very tough year. She was also accepted to Rice and has very much regretted not going. She is anxious, stressed, depressed, and thinks it is tougher than most other kids at other schools taking the same courses.

She also has a friend 2022 at Michigan. She worked her butt off to get there. She is still working hard, but she is enjoying every aspect of the school. Sports, clubs, parties, sorority, etc... She is extremely happy there.

Michigan will have more various types of kids. It is a better college town. And overall kids seem happier there. If Cornell is a dream or a school she was crazy excited about getting in, then she will probably do okay. My gut is telling me she would regret not going to Michigan though if she really loved it there.

If you and her switched which one was "ivy" my guess is she would be 100% in Michigan.

Which one is she going to WANT to do everything at that school. Which one will make her happy for 4 years. Which one feels like home?

Cornell may have the Ivy name, but you can not beat Michigan alumni when looking for employment.

Good Luck. What a lucky decision she has to make!

Easier grading? Apparently you aren’t a MIT grad.

Just a mother trying to rationalize the decision to go to Cornell more likely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You must be crazy. Michigan is not even close. OMG!

Evidence please?

Ivy cachet vs dime a dozen 50,000 public U alum

You’re deeply ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan isn’t at all below Cornell. Stop letting the Ivy thing blindly bias you.

+1

[Anonymous]

The food is way better at cornell than michigan

[Anonymous]

Don’t turn down Cornell. You’ll regret it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t turn down Cornell. You’ll regret it.

Why do you say that?

- Cornell grad who thinks she should go to Michigan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t turn down Cornell. You’ll regret it.

Agreed
Michigan grad who thinks you should go to Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like either one is great and she won't regret her decision if she doesn't let herself. Michigan has tons of cache in the Midwest and on east coast so you can't go wrong either way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan isn’t at all below Cornell. Stop letting the Ivy thing blindly bias you.

Lol okay tailgate state alum

NP. Harvard and Princeton alumn who would choose Michigan over Cornell in a heartbeat. Academically, there really is something for everyone in Ann Arbor and the breadth and depth of intellectual resources is exciting. FWIW, I have zero interest in sports.

[Anonymous]

Cornell alum here. I loved Cornell, but if my kid got into both and she wanted to go to U Michigan over Cornell, I'd sign the deposit check in a heartbeat -- and vice versa. Both are great schools with tons of opportunities to study in a wide variety of fields. (I would also say that there is something for everyone at Cornell as well).

At the end of her four years, it's not going to be so much what brand name is on the diploma but a) is she happy and thriving there (and therefore doing her best work) and b) does she do well in her chosen classes and major so she's poised for the next step, whatever that ends up being.

I've done a lot of hiring in my career and I wouldn't discount the cachet of University of Michigan -- I wouldn't necessarily be more interested in a Cornell grad (or a HYPS grad for that matter) over a University of Michigan (and dozens of other strong schools). I don't think the brand name matters nearly as much as people think it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan isn’t at all below Cornell. Stop letting the Ivy thing blindly bias you.

Lol okay tailgate state alum

NP. Harvard and Princeton alumn who would choose Michigan over Cornell in a heartbeat. Academically, there really is something for everyone in Ann Arbor and the breadth and depth of intellectual resources is exciting. FWIW, I have zero interest in sports.

I’m the PP who was called tailgate state alum.

I went to Georgetown and UChicago, so way to assume. But DH works in higher ed and Michigan is considered completely on par with the Ivies by those in the actual business of higher education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cornell alum here. I loved Cornell, but if my kid got into both and she wanted to go to U Michigan over Cornell, I'd sign the deposit check in a heartbeat -- and vice versa. Both are great schools with tons of opportunities to study in a wide variety of fields. (I would also say that there is something for everyone at Cornell as well).

At the end of her four years, it's not going to be so much what brand name is on the diploma but a) is she happy and thriving there (and therefore doing her best work) and b) does she do well in her chosen classes and major so she's poised for the next step, whatever that ends up being.

I've done a lot of hiring in my career and I wouldn't discount the cachet of University of Michigan -- I wouldn't necessarily be more interested in a Cornell grad (or a HYPS grad for that matter) over a University of Michigan (and dozens of other strong schools). I don't think the brand name matters nearly as much as people think it does.

Thank you.

DH does hiring for tech companies and said Michigan grads are way better on average than, say, Harvard grads who tend to be entitled brats.

[Anonymous]

This is a great time for her to learn to follow her OWN heart, not the advice or biases of those around her.

Support her in going to the great school (U of M) she loved.

It absolutely will not hold her back. Those "but what about cachet" people are sad. Pursuing some scripted version of success, that is not linked to an individual's tastes, values and identity. Let your daughter be the person she is meant to grow into. Not some programmed robot.

[Anonymous]

The student culture at Cornell is very competitive, and NOT in a good way.

[Anonymous]

My employee w an undergrad from UMich is so much better than the ex-employee w a grad degree from Columbia. Much better critical thinking skills.