Virginia election 2019

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia is becoming like Maryland and I think that's awesome.


Now if only both states can elect governors who are not a) race-bating Republicans or b) KKK/Blackface wearing Democrats.

Or convicted pedophiles who have been disbarred?

After all the screaming about Roy Moore, you’d think liberals would be more aware?

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing: DCUM posts are entirely unrepresentative of how people in the area actually feel and vote. We get this is your safe space to come and vent and put your right-wing heroes on a pedestal. But no one, especially after this election cycle, should walk away thinking that what gets posted on this forum about local politicians or schools is true or even remotely indicative of what most people in the region believe.

It is one small pocket of the universe, and highly skewed to the right.

Lol. Gee, glad you...umm...figured it all out for everyone else.

My liberal in-laws tell me they moved here for jobs and won’t go back north due to no jobs and high taxes. Why are there no good jobs in Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders territory?

Why are there no good jobs in the solid red deep south?

Because there are a lot of poor minorities there who vote Dem. There are actually good jobs for those willing to work.

Willing to work down in the deep-red south? No thanks!

There’s a reason the DMV attracts newcomers. These reasons include good jobs, diversity, great schools, etc. If the Deep South is so great, why don’t YOU move there??

DMV is propped up by the federal government period. Without the federal government DC would be like Baltimore. That's a fact.

You mean with no fed govt DC would have gotten major industry in the first half of the 20th century? You do know Baltimore is so hard hit, because (like some midwest cities) it was a huge industrial city.

Anyway, not sure what your point is. Va has done well even as it has become more blue. The most prosperous areas (increasingly reliant on the private sector) are the bluest. Va will not turn into Calif or NY. Calif and NY are economically succesful.

As NOVA has become more blue, I have seen massive increases in beggars, homeless, and illegal aliens. Areas that were nice 20 years ago, you can’t really go to anymore because MS-13 had made it much more dangerous. Schools that were really good have gone downhill, to the point where now the school board has to change boundaries to redistribute the poverty they allowed. Taxes for businesses and residents will now increase, and we will begin to see a reversal of the economic prosperity that brought businesses to Virginia over Maryland. The amount of MD tags I see in my area compared to 10 years ago has increased dramatically - and I’m in Western FFX county.

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Anonymous wrote:For all the transplants to Virginia - what brought you here. Jobs, I assume. Why do you think you were able to get a good job in Virginia? Because the companies moved here and built here due to favorable tax law. They moved out of the high tax northern areas to come here. So when the companies start leaving Virginia due to taxes, you will move again and then vote for higher taxes to ‘stick it to the corporations’, and then what? What happens when you’ve turned everyplace blue and raised everyone’s taxes to NY and NY and MA levels? Yep, you will have stuck it to the man all right, and then what?

1. The company that I originally came to Va for was not drawn by low taxes. It was a branch of an out of town consulting firm, and the local head was from Va and wanted to be here - plus the airport access was important. No way they would have gone to Kentucky or South Carolina.

2. You will notice Amazon has chosen Arlington the bluest part of Virginia. If anything we have too many jobs coming now (though with hard work we can adjust to it)

3. NY and MA continue to have huge numbers of jobs and high housing costs. So much that NY could blow Amazon off.

New York lost more residents in 2018 than any other state.

Yup -- because New York State (outside the sphere of New York City) is plagued by widespread economic disinvestment and growing poverty. The same can be said about many cities and towns in Massachusetts outside of Boston's sphere of influence. The economic growth these states report is highly concentrated and highly uneven.

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Anonymous wrote:Democratic candidates, committees and the state party raised almost $2 million more than the GOP in the first quarter of 2019. The early gains mirror the first quarter of 2017, which preceded a historic blue wave.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/fundraising-dries-up-for-vas-three-tainted-leaders-but-not-for-their-fellow-democrats/2019/04/16/a50ef0b8-605c-11e9-9412-daf3d2e67c6d_story.html?utm_term=.5302f8e0e892

Bring immigrants into northern virginia. Win dem elections.

So immigrants are the ones donating to the state Democratic party? And northern Virginia is the only place with elections this year? Not following.

Soros is pouring money into NoVA

That's fantastic news. World Series win, Halloween and now Soros is influencing our elections! It's a great day!

There should be a law that leftist who vote for policies that affect a state negatively must live in it, rather than allow them to flee

Would you institute the same law in, say, Kansas?

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing: DCUM posts are entirely unrepresentative of how people in the area actually feel and vote. We get this is your safe space to come and vent and put your right-wing heroes on a pedestal. But no one, especially after this election cycle, should walk away thinking that what gets posted on this forum about local politicians or schools is true or even remotely indicative of what most people in the region believe.

It is one small pocket of the universe, and highly skewed to the right.

Lol. Gee, glad you...umm...figured it all out for everyone else.

My liberal in-laws tell me they moved here for jobs and won’t go back north due to no jobs and high taxes. Why are there no good jobs in Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders territory?

Why are there no good jobs in the solid red deep south?

Because there are a lot of poor minorities there who vote Dem. There are actually good jobs for those willing to work.

Willing to work down in the deep-red south? No thanks!

There’s a reason the DMV attracts newcomers. These reasons include good jobs, diversity, great schools, etc. If the Deep South is so great, why don’t YOU move there??

DMV is propped up by the federal government period. Without the federal government DC would be like Baltimore. That's a fact.

You mean with no fed govt DC would have gotten major industry in the first half of the 20th century? You do know Baltimore is so hard hit, because (like some midwest cities) it was a huge industrial city.

Anyway, not sure what your point is. Va has done well even as it has become more blue. The most prosperous areas (increasingly reliant on the private sector) are the bluest. Va will not turn into Calif or NY. Calif and NY are economically succesful.

As NOVA has become more blue, I have seen massive increases in beggars, homeless, and illegal aliens. Areas that were nice 20 years ago, you can’t really go to anymore because MS-13 had made it much more dangerous. Schools that were really good have gone downhill, to the point where now the school board has to change boundaries to redistribute the poverty they allowed. Taxes for businesses and residents will now increase, and we will begin to see a reversal of the economic prosperity that brought businesses to Virginia over Maryland. The amount of MD tags I see in my area compared to 10 years ago has increased dramatically - and I’m in Western FFX county.

Those problems are related to increasing populations, not politics.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with my taxes going up if that's what it takes for sensible gun legistlation and people willing to stand up to the NRA, which seems to be imploding, btw. Sandy Hook and our nation's lack of response to it pretty much turned me into a single issue voter, which I was not before.

Fiscally, I don't even have a party. I'm for balanced budgets and paying down the national debt, which apparently is not a thing any more for either party. The two national parties just run up the debt on different things. At least the Dem's things try to help people. The Repubs just want to give tax cuts to rich people. I don't agree with either if we can't afford it, but if we are doing it anyway, I'm with the Dems.

When did the national democrats "run up the debt?"

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with my taxes going up if that's what it takes for sensible gun legistlation and people willing to stand up to the NRA, which seems to be imploding, btw. Sandy Hook and our nation's lack of response to it pretty much turned me into a single issue voter, which I was not before.

Fiscally, I don't even have a party. I'm for balanced budgets and paying down the national debt, which apparently is not a thing any more for either party. The two national parties just run up the debt on different things. At least the Dem's things try to help people. The Repubs just want to give tax cuts to rich people. I don't agree with either if we can't afford it, but if we are doing it anyway, I'm with the Dems.

When did the national democrats "run up the debt?"

Pp here. The federal government operates at a deficit perpetually and no one on either side is earnestly working to rectify this that I am aware of. I’d be happy to be corrected. Every few months we vote to raise the debt ceiling, again. It’s infuriating but no one seems to care. You couldn’t run a household or business this way. We need to live within our means as a nation. I’m fine with revolving debt but that’s not what we are doing.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/24/facts-about-the-national-debt/

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Anonymous wrote:Democratic candidates, committees and the state party raised almost $2 million more than the GOP in the first quarter of 2019. The early gains mirror the first quarter of 2017, which preceded a historic blue wave.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/fundraising-dries-up-for-vas-three-tainted-leaders-but-not-for-their-fellow-democrats/2019/04/16/a50ef0b8-605c-11e9-9412-daf3d2e67c6d_story.html?utm_term=.5302f8e0e892

Bring immigrants into northern virginia. Win dem elections.

So immigrants are the ones donating to the state Democratic party? And northern Virginia is the only place with elections this year? Not following.

Soros is pouring money into NoVA

That's fantastic news. World Series win, Halloween and now Soros is influencing our elections! It's a great day!

There should be a law that leftist who vote for policies that affect a state negatively must live in it, rather than allow them to flee

Would you institute the same law in, say, Kansas?

Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing: DCUM posts are entirely unrepresentative of how people in the area actually feel and vote. We get this is your safe space to come and vent and put your right-wing heroes on a pedestal. But no one, especially after this election cycle, should walk away thinking that what gets posted on this forum about local politicians or schools is true or even remotely indicative of what most people in the region believe.

It is one small pocket of the universe, and highly skewed to the right.

Lol. Gee, glad you...umm...figured it all out for everyone else.

My liberal in-laws tell me they moved here for jobs and won’t go back north due to no jobs and high taxes. Why are there no good jobs in Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders territory?

Why are there no good jobs in the solid red deep south?

Because there are a lot of poor minorities there who vote Dem. There are actually good jobs for those willing to work.

Willing to work down in the deep-red south? No thanks!

There’s a reason the DMV attracts newcomers. These reasons include good jobs, diversity, great schools, etc. If the Deep South is so great, why don’t YOU move there??

DMV is propped up by the federal government period. Without the federal government DC would be like Baltimore. That's a fact.

You mean with no fed govt DC would have gotten major industry in the first half of the 20th century? You do know Baltimore is so hard hit, because (like some midwest cities) it was a huge industrial city.

Anyway, not sure what your point is. Va has done well even as it has become more blue. The most prosperous areas (increasingly reliant on the private sector) are the bluest. Va will not turn into Calif or NY. Calif and NY are economically succesful.

As NOVA has become more blue, I have seen massive increases in beggars, homeless, and illegal aliens. Areas that were nice 20 years ago, you can’t really go to anymore because MS-13 had made it much more dangerous. Schools that were really good have gone downhill, to the point where now the school board has to change boundaries to redistribute the poverty they allowed. Taxes for businesses and residents will now increase, and we will begin to see a reversal of the economic prosperity that brought businesses to Virginia over Maryland. The amount of MD tags I see in my area compared to 10 years ago has increased dramatically - and I’m in Western FFX county.

Those problems are related to increasing populations, not politics.

Are you kidding? “Increasing populations”. What kind of population? Where are they coming from? How are we all being policed?

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As NOVA has become more blue, I have seen massive increases in beggars, homeless, and illegal aliens. Areas that were nice 20 years ago, you can’t really go to anymore because MS-13 had made it much more dangerous. Schools that were really good have gone downhill, to the point where now the school board has to change boundaries to redistribute the poverty they allowed. Taxes for businesses and residents will now increase, and we will begin to see a reversal of the economic prosperity that brought businesses to Virginia over Maryland. The amount of MD tags I see in my area compared to 10 years ago has increased dramatically - and I’m in Western FFX county.

1. I know of no places in NoVa I would not go out off fear of crime. Not one.

2. Schools are still good. Some have more poor people. Some (in parts of Alexandria and Arlingoton have fewer). Total number of poor in Arlington has decreased - increased in outer suburbs as the housing stock ages.

3. Md tags in your area is due to so many jobs, during the period you claim there was decline.

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Anonymous wrote:For all the transplants to Virginia - what brought you here. Jobs, I assume. Why do you think you were able to get a good job in Virginia? Because the companies moved here and built here due to favorable tax law. They moved out of the high tax northern areas to come here. So when the companies start leaving Virginia due to taxes, you will move again and then vote for higher taxes to ‘stick it to the corporations’, and then what? What happens when you’ve turned everyplace blue and raised everyone’s taxes to NY and NY and MA levels? Yep, you will have stuck it to the man all right, and then what?

1. The company that I originally came to Va for was not drawn by low taxes. It was a branch of an out of town consulting firm, and the local head was from Va and wanted to be here - plus the airport access was important. No way they would have gone to Kentucky or South Carolina.

2. You will notice Amazon has chosen Arlington the bluest part of Virginia. If anything we have too many jobs coming now (though with hard work we can adjust to it)

3. NY and MA continue to have huge numbers of jobs and high housing costs. So much that NY could blow Amazon off.

New York lost more residents in 2018 than any other state.

Yup -- because New York State (outside the sphere of New York City) is plagued by widespread economic disinvestment and growing poverty. The same can be said about many cities and towns in Massachusetts outside of Boston's sphere of influence. The economic growth these states report is highly concentrated and highly uneven.

Yes upstate NY has had headwinds. As have small cities across the rust belt (and a few older industrial cities in the south) in places with very different politics. So its really about local economic dynamics, not politics.

And which area does NoVa resemble more - Utica? Or greater NYC?

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing: DCUM posts are entirely unrepresentative of how people in the area actually feel and vote. We get this is your safe space to come and vent and put your right-wing heroes on a pedestal. But no one, especially after this election cycle, should walk away thinking that what gets posted on this forum about local politicians or schools is true or even remotely indicative of what most people in the region believe.

It is one small pocket of the universe, and highly skewed to the right.

Lol. Gee, glad you...umm...figured it all out for everyone else.

My liberal in-laws tell me they moved here for jobs and won’t go back north due to no jobs and high taxes. Why are there no good jobs in Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders territory?

Why are there no good jobs in the solid red deep south?

Because there are a lot of poor minorities there who vote Dem. There are actually good jobs for those willing to work.

Willing to work down in the deep-red south? No thanks!

There’s a reason the DMV attracts newcomers. These reasons include good jobs, diversity, great schools, etc. If the Deep South is so great, why don’t YOU move there??

DMV is propped up by the federal government period. Without the federal government DC would be like Baltimore. That's a fact.

You mean with no fed govt DC would have gotten major industry in the first half of the 20th century? You do know Baltimore is so hard hit, because (like some midwest cities) it was a huge industrial city.

Anyway, not sure what your point is. Va has done well even as it has become more blue. The most prosperous areas (increasingly reliant on the private sector) are the bluest. Va will not turn into Calif or NY. Calif and NY are economically succesful.

As NOVA has become more blue, I have seen massive increases in beggars, homeless, and illegal aliens. Areas that were nice 20 years ago, you can’t really go to anymore because MS-13 had made it much more dangerous. Schools that were really good have gone downhill, to the point where now the school board has to change boundaries to redistribute the poverty they allowed. Taxes for businesses and residents will now increase, and we will begin to see a reversal of the economic prosperity that brought businesses to Virginia over Maryland. The amount of MD tags I see in my area compared to 10 years ago has increased dramatically - and I’m in Western FFX county.

The bolded means there are more jobs in VA than MD and people are communting. That is a good thing for Fairfax and Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with my taxes going up if that's what it takes for sensible gun legistlation and people willing to stand up to the NRA, which seems to be imploding, btw. Sandy Hook and our nation's lack of response to it pretty much turned me into a single issue voter, which I was not before.

Fiscally, I don't even have a party. I'm for balanced budgets and paying down the national debt, which apparently is not a thing any more for either party. The two national parties just run up the debt on different things. At least the Dem's things try to help people. The Repubs just want to give tax cuts to rich people. I don't agree with either if we can't afford it, but if we are doing it anyway, I'm with the Dems.

When did the national democrats "run up the debt?"

Pp here. The federal government operates at a deficit perpetually and no one on either side is earnestly working to rectify this that I am aware of. I’d be happy to be corrected. Every few months we vote to raise the debt ceiling, again. It’s infuriating but no one seems to care. You couldn’t run a household or business this way. We need to live within our means as a nation. I’m fine with revolving debt but that’s not what we are doing.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/24/facts-about-the-national-debt/

Reagan-Bush => big debt
Clinton => in the green
BushII => Big debt
Obama => getting it under control
Trump = HUUUUGE debt

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with my taxes going up if that's what it takes for sensible gun legistlation and people willing to stand up to the NRA, which seems to be imploding, btw. Sandy Hook and our nation's lack of response to it pretty much turned me into a single issue voter, which I was not before.

Fiscally, I don't even have a party. I'm for balanced budgets and paying down the national debt, which apparently is not a thing any more for either party. The two national parties just run up the debt on different things. At least the Dem's things try to help people. The Repubs just want to give tax cuts to rich people. I don't agree with either if we can't afford it, but if we are doing it anyway, I'm with the Dems.

When did the national democrats "run up the debt?"

Pp here. The federal government operates at a deficit perpetually and no one on either side is earnestly working to rectify this that I am aware of. I’d be happy to be corrected. Every few months we vote to raise the debt ceiling, again. It’s infuriating but no one seems to care. You couldn’t run a household or business this way. We need to live within our means as a nation. I’m fine with revolving debt but that’s not what we are doing.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/24/facts-about-the-national-debt/

Oh ok you just don't know. That chart shows decreases during the clinton years, which were wiped out during the bush years, then the financial crisis hit, and we did have some minor decreases after that, but now that's gone too.

As to households, this link shows the debt at slightly over 100% of GDP. My family's debt is something like 150% of our annual income. Most people early into a mortgage will be that way.