You are completely mischaracterizing what I said. In response to the OP you could have: a) offered support; b) moved on to another thread; or c) called her a drama queen and troll. The fact that you chose option c has nothing to do with any family in DC, but only with you. The OP is not a cheater. Showing her compassion says nothing about how cheaters should be viewed. Even if you think an investigation was justified, you can still feel sorry for the OP for being kicked while she was down. But, no, you can only double down on your determination to not show a hint of empathy and attack me. My compassion may be selective. Yours is non-existent. |
I agree. |
And here's the crux of it, if everyone could just go everywhere all the schools would be bad. The schools in upper NW or WOTP are only good because they are exclusive it has nothing to do with the schools or the teachers it's to do with the children, poverty, and economics. Trust me the skills and teaching expertise the teachers have in some of the worst schools in DC are amazing; however, they get no credit due to the test scores. Let it be a free for all and know one will be clamoring to go anywhere just like the suggestion for WOTP teachers to go EOTP. It would be an interesting social experiment and maybe in 10-15 years it would all work out but I know that most residents would not support it, I wonder why? |
Your compassion is selective, just one person, OP. My compassion is selective too, just ten thousand parents, including many you censored out here in this thread. |
This thread is not about ten thousand parents. It is about one parent who was falsely accused. Sadly, you are incapable of saying something as simple as, "OP, I'm sorry that this happened to you." This thread is not about those who cheat, but rather someone who was falsely accused of cheating. It is about someone who, when faced with a difficult time of her life, had the added insult of a false accusation leveled against her. What would it cost you to show her some compassion? Whatever it is, it would cost even less to just shut the hell up and move to another thread. But, no. You just can't help piling on. I hope that makes you feel good. You can sit anonymously behind your computer stroking your chin and thinking how great it feels kicking someone when they are down. Really tremendous character you are showing. Give yourself an extra pat on the back. |
Thank you for not letting people distract from this point. The OP had something bad happen to her, and all these posters want to do is tear her down. What is wrong with people? |
No, you forgot option d) - express sympathy that OP is the subject of gossip, and outrage that someone followed and photographed her, but also take issue with her exhortation that, "Before reporting suspected parents, please consider the hurt you may cause to those who truly don’t deserve it." (And I think most people's response falls into that category.) You claim she isn't suggesting that others shouldn't report their suspicions, but I'm not sure how else to take that comment. She's obviously advocating that people not report. Think it through - you suspect a parent of residency fraud. Before reporting, you consider that your suspicions might be incorrect, but you still have the suspicions. And then . . . what? You either report or not report. As for, "The OP is saying that before you report someone, you better be damn sure they are guilty because you are potentially going to unnecessarily cause them hurt," you're mistaken - she doesn't want that at all. The part of this saga that has the OP most upset clearly is that another parent followed her and took pictures of her and her kids. She repeatedly calls it stalking and harassment, and while I might not go that far, it certainly is disconcerting, and parents shouldn't do that. But, how does that square with your suggestion that before reporting one must be "damn sure" the other parent is guilty? How would one become "damn sure" about that? The only way is by doing one's own investigation - which is exactly the most troubling thing about this to the OP. If the general advice and best practice is for parents to decline to become amateur private investigators, setting the reporting bar at "damn sure they are guilty" is *exactly* the wrong way to do it. Your posts on this thread thus far have been limited to righteous indignation on behalf of the OP, but you haven't addressed the underlying issue. So let me ask you directly - if a person has a good faith suspicion that another family at his or her kid's school is engaged in residency fraud, what do you think they should do? |
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I'm sorry this happened to OP.
It has no bearing on continuing to report and investigate others who are cheating. Both statements can be true. |
And there are steps the OP and parents could have done. (a) Parent could have told a school counselor, I would alsmost say should have as based on what they said the issues could have affected child academically and socially (we are told how upsetting was for parent what about child?). (b) Stalkers should have sent pictures to OSSE not given to principal, even better not taken them at all but going by the argument need proof I suppose that is the better option. (c) Not sure why the school got involved this is highly unusual as OP was already accepted and I'm sure OSSE had already done audit, so highly irregular as it makes no difference to school at this point if OP is there legally or not as her original paperwork was valid. Regardless, schools should submit docs to OSSE and let them handle it. Sure we can all be a little kinder, but this shows how much this is still a hot issue as equity in education remains elusive. |
This. Every single point. |
Let me get this straight? You are actually advocating that parents follow other parents around, even photographing them, based on suspicions that they might be residency cheaters? That is what you consider proper behavior? I'm sorry, but that's insane. If you know someone is cheating, turn them in. If you simply think they might be cheating, it's not your job to investigate. I might think you are cheating on your taxes. That doesn't mean I should dig through your trash can looking for financial statements does it? If you don't think current DCPS practices are sufficient to prevent cheating, then advocate for change. Becoming your own vigilante Inspector Clouseau is not the answer. Instead of spending your time trying to justify your suspicions, use that time getting to know other families. |
You should get some coffee and read PP's post a bit more carefully. She's advocating for the precise opposite
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I don't drink coffee. The poster is clearing advocating that parents launch their own investigations. I even bolded that sentence. |
I have no idea how to respond to this. You either didn't read, didn't understand, or are willfully misconstruing my post. I bolded another sentence for you, just to help. *You* are the one advocating that one be "damn sure" someone is cheating before turning them in. In fact, in this post, you repeated the same sentiment - "If you know someone is cheating, turn them in." But setting that standard - certainty of cheating - is what inevitably leads to the investigations. And you didn't answer my question, which I will repeat here: "If a person has a good faith suspicion that another family at his or her kid's school is engaged in residency fraud, what do you think they should do?" |
OSSE specifically encourages parents to tun each other in if they suspected fraud, so I'm not quite sure why you're so hot about this. I think there used to be a residency fraud hotline advertised on buses, and I know there was one on the website. You are suggesting that nobody should report suspected cheating, only cheating of which they are absolutely certain. Sure, it's creepy as heck if a parent snapped photos, but OSSE has made it clear over and over that license plates are not enough. Setting aside the alleged creepy parent, I do think there is a small element of a self inflicted wound by the OP for not looping her school admin in on her situation, even in the most general of terms. Several posters have questioned why the the school guidance counselor was not informed if the student was experiencing unusually stressful home circumstances. At the very least, it would have spared the OP the stress of having to come in and explain to the administration what was going on. I almost feel this thread should be removed for generating more heat than light; the OP is obviously going through a difficult and emotional period, and to a lesser extent, recent news of flagrant and ongoing residency fraud have inflamed DC residents who feel frustrated by what seems like a complete collapse of both accountability and accuracy on OSSE's part. It is infuriating to read that non-DC residents (including the children of current and former Bowser staff) are cheerfully occupying spaces at Deal, Hardy, Ellington, Logan, and others while the rest of us endure the lottery year after year. |