MCPS curriculum RFP-Second Attempt

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Anonymous wrote:Did Discovery Ed win this yet?

Bite your tongue. Or at least write Jack Smith and tell him that will look shady as **ck.

https://mcpsweb.wufoo.com/forms/instructional-materials-process-input-form/

Are they actually going to answer some of the questions people ask? They never released the results from that parent survey they did in April as input into the RFP...

+1 I don't know why they ask parents to do these surveys if they're not going to analyze or release the results.

To make you feel like they care about your input but in fact they do not.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, love to see how highly unorganized and incompetent MCPS central office handled 10,000s of qualitative comments.

They didn't even use Survey Monkey or a software survey that automatically sorts comments and tallies scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:that's weird she says the RFP was issued on August 20th, I checked the website 3 days ago, and nothing had been updated.

Why is it weird? They re-issued the RFP on August 20, now they've sent out an e-mail, and presumably at some point they will update the website.

The website is updated now, but I had thought they would update it along with issuing the RFP. I guess they issue it elsewhere.

Well, the email from MCPS did say to check the websites for the latest updates. If they issued the RFP on August 20 and didn't update the website til a few days later, that's not consistent with what they promised.

Sometimes I get the feeling that if MCPS were a pizzeria, and DCUM ordered a pizza with olives, there would be at least 5 threads per month about how MCPS is the worst pizzeria in the world because the olives ought to be oil-cured but instead were Kalamata. DCUM would also complain that:

1. a large pizza ought to be 16 inches instead of 14.
2. a large pizza ought to be 14 inches instead of 16.
3. the diameter of the pizza ought to be measured in centimeters instead of inches.
4. a large pizza shouldn't be one-size-fits-all; there should be different sizes of large pizzas for different people with different needs.

Also, of course, pizzas from the east county are gang pizzas, and downcounty people should be able to get the pizzas they're entitled to even when the roads in the upcounty are icy.

Brilliant!

Stop. Doesn't matter. The Arlington and NW DC pizzas are kicking your tushes so hard no one with options will care what MCPS is serving up. MCPS reputation is in the toilet. And so is MoCo's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that's weird she says the RFP was issued on August 20th, I checked the website 3 days ago, and nothing had been updated.

Why is it weird? They re-issued the RFP on August 20, now they've sent out an e-mail, and presumably at some point they will update the website.

The website is updated now, but I had thought they would update it along with issuing the RFP. I guess they issue it elsewhere.

Well, the email from MCPS did say to check the websites for the latest updates. If they issued the RFP on August 20 and didn't update the website til a few days later, that's not consistent with what they promised.

Sometimes I get the feeling that if MCPS were a pizzeria, and DCUM ordered a pizza with olives, there would be at least 5 threads per month about how MCPS is the worst pizzeria in the world because the olives ought to be oil-cured but instead were Kalamata. DCUM would also complain that:

1. a large pizza ought to be 16 inches instead of 14.
2. a large pizza ought to be 14 inches instead of 16.
3. the diameter of the pizza ought to be measured in centimeters instead of inches.
4. a large pizza shouldn't be one-size-fits-all; there should be different sizes of large pizzas for different people with different needs.

Also, of course, pizzas from the east county are gang pizzas, and downcounty people should be able to get the pizzas they're entitled to even when the roads in the upcounty are icy.

Brilliant!

Stop. Doesn't matter. The Arlington and NW DC pizzas are kicking your tushes so hard no one with options will care what MCPS is serving up. MCPS reputation is in the toilet. And so is MoCo's.

I like the pizza analogy. And now I'm hungry.

[Anonymous]

Both Arlington and DC school systems have much greater issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both Arlington and DC school systems have much greater issues.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both Arlington and DC school systems have much greater issues.

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The MCPS Central Office Staff members who post here can keep telling themselves this. The actual parents who post here are waiting to see that they don't screw up the RFP process for a second time.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Arlington and DC school systems have much greater issues.

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Disagree. The high quality schools in Arlington and NW DC don't suffer from a krap curriculum, throttled down PTA role, 30 mins of PE A WEEK, a monstrosity bus service/staff, lack of textbooks, no designated science or social studies in ES, zero differentiation after 3rd grade, or 2-4 hours of daily chromebook games like MCPS' "best schools" do.

And no where near the quantity and severity of MCPS' SELF-INDUCED terrible issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both Arlington and DC school systems have much greater issues.

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Disagree. The high quality schools in Arlington and NW DC don't suffer from a krap curriculum, throttled down PTA role, 30 mins of PE A WEEK, a monstrosity bus service/staff, lack of textbooks, no designated science or social studies in ES, zero differentiation after 3rd grade, or 2-4 hours of daily chromebook games like MCPS' "best schools" do.

And no where near the quantity and severity of MCPS' SELF-INDUCED terrible issues.

Agreed for Arlington, but not DCPS. Aside from a couple of serviceable ES’s and SWW, the system is a crapshow on a level MCPS has not even come close to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, love to see how highly unorganized and incompetent MCPS central office handled 10,000s of qualitative comments.

They didn't even use Survey Monkey or a software survey that automatically sorts comments and tallies scores.

Exactly. I read through it and was very disheartened. Lots of spelling mistakes, poor verbiage..I think a big part of the problem with MCPS is the rise of "education" majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Please share this with any good curriculum providers
http://procurement.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/home/Bid_Record/1638

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thx, I read the RFP file (last one listed) and am familiar with legal docs.
no mention of science or social studies in either ELA or math requirements or preferences. Guess MCPS will whip that up?
mentioned 45-60 minutes of daily ELA and of daily Math so that frees up 60 minutes versus current C2.0. Wonder what MCSP will do with that time? More gym, A day for science, B day for social studies?
no mention of physical textbooks or work books, just digital stuff for teachers, parents, students.

science and social studies were never in scope of the RFP. It has always been ELA and math..

So does this mean they will not teach social studies or science? Those subjects are barely taught now, except for at the high school level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both Arlington and DC school systems have much greater issues.

+1

Disagree. The high quality schools in Arlington and NW DC don't suffer from a krap curriculum, throttled down PTA role, 30 mins of PE A WEEK, a monstrosity bus service/staff, lack of textbooks, no designated science or social studies in ES, zero differentiation after 3rd grade, or 2-4 hours of daily chromebook games like MCPS' "best schools" do.

And no where near the quantity and severity of MCPS' SELF-INDUCED terrible issues.

Exactly. And all they can discuss now is redistricting for equity. Very disappointed in Jill Ortman Fouse. I thought she would really tackle these issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both Arlington and DC school systems have much greater issues.

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This is clear to anyone who reads the news MCPS may have a few problem but pale to insignificance when compared to the DCPS dumpster fire.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please share this with any good curriculum providers
http://procurement.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/home/Bid_Record/1638

+1

thx, I read the RFP file (last one listed) and am familiar with legal docs.
no mention of science or social studies in either ELA or math requirements or preferences. Guess MCPS will whip that up?
mentioned 45-60 minutes of daily ELA and of daily Math so that frees up 60 minutes versus current C2.0. Wonder what MCSP will do with that time? More gym, A day for science, B day for social studies?
no mention of physical textbooks or work books, just digital stuff for teachers, parents, students.

science and social studies were never in scope of the RFP. It has always been ELA and math..

So does this mean they will not teach social studies or science? Those subjects are barely taught now, except for at the high school level.

No, it means that science and social studies are not in the scope of the RFP. Just ELA and math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both Arlington and DC school systems have much greater issues.

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This is clear to anyone who reads the news MCPS may have a few problem but pale to insignificance when compared to the DCPS dumpster fire.

KEY DIFFERENCE:
The DCPS dumpster fires don't affect the good student's educations, curricula, PTAs, ECs, teachers.

Very unfortunately, the MCPS dumpster fires do negatively affect the good students' educations, curricula, PTAs, ECs, teachers.

It's really quite shocking. Skim away the headlines about MCPS bus/teacher/coach molesters and MCPS Erick Lang F'ing up the RFP process for his own personal gain, etc. and what do you ahve left? The real dumpster fire of a terrible large school district.

Skim away the headlines about DCPS resident fraud and graduating deliquent HS students and you still have a strong curriculum, teachers, PTA, ECs for the good students. DCPS has good basics, MCPS does not. DCPS lets you enhance its good basics (with teacher aides, w for language class, with gym class 4 times a week) and MCPS does not. Big difference.