8 hours of screaming on a flight

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I came very very close to being kicked off of a domestic flight with my special needs child. So I have a TON of empathy for the parents and can acutely imagine the anxiety and desperation they felt.

That said, the kid needed to be sedated. Some benzodiazepines would have gone a long way.

I know a PP was upset at that suggestion “f*ck you” but that is standard treatment for a child or adult who is likely to have that sort of off the charts reaction to a flight or other travel that is necessary

The poster used the word “tranquilized” which is generally a term reserved for wild animals, so a F off is totally appropriate.

Tranquilizer is equally appropriate.

Agree, this kid needs horse tranquilizers and holy water

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was the mom traveling alone with this SN child AND a baby? What about her partner? I didn’t see any efforts expended. No sorry or explanation to other passengers either. No preparation. No donwloaded materials, toys, Benadryl....What entitlement! She/They have probably gotten away with this and much worse before and this will continue.

No one knows if this kid was SN and not all SN kids act this way. It was bad parenting. You don't drug kids either.

I can assure you that child does have special needs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was the mom traveling alone with this SN child AND a baby? What about her partner? I didn’t see any efforts expended. No sorry or explanation to other passengers either. No preparation. No donwloaded materials, toys, Benadryl....What entitlement! She/They have probably gotten away with this and much worse before and this will continue.

No one knows if this kid was SN and not all SN kids act this way. It was bad parenting. You don't drug kids either.

The kid obviously has special needs. No 3 NT year old screams for 8 hrs (assuming that wasn't an exgaggeration).

Nobody here knows the full story, but people want to pile on the mom. No surprise there! Hopefully none of those folks consider themselves Christian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the mom traveling alone with this SN child AND a baby? What about her partner? I didn’t see any efforts expended. No sorry or explanation to other passengers either. No preparation. No donwloaded materials, toys, Benadryl....What entitlement! She/They have probably gotten away with this and much worse before and this will continue.

No one knows if this kid was SN and not all SN kids act this way. It was bad parenting. You don't drug kids either.

The kid obviously has special needs. No 3 NT year old screams for 8 hrs (assuming that wasn't an exgaggeration).

Nobody here knows the full story, but people want to pile on the mom. No surprise there! Hopefully none of those folks consider themselves Christian.

It's not piling on the mom to recognize that she boarded a plane poorly prepared to take an 8 hour flight with a special needs child. If there were another caregiver or parent present, then that person would also be sharing the blame.

[Anonymous]

Special needs or no, parents sometimes have little influence over whether a child cries on a plane or not. I'm willing to cut the mom some slack on that. But especially if he was going to scream the entire time anyway, he should have been doing it strapped into a carseat. There was absolutely no reason to let him run all over the plane and climb on seats. None. That was the epic parenting failure in my mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Special needs or no, parents sometimes have little influence over whether a child cries on a plane or not. I'm willing to cut the mom some slack on that. But especially if he was going to scream the entire time anyway, he should have been doing it strapped into a carseat. There was absolutely no reason to let him run all over the plane and climb on seats. None. That was the epic parenting failure in my mind.

Yes, parents do have influence as to whether or not a child cries on a plane for 8 hours. They can consult with a physician and medicate, if needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the mom traveling alone with this SN child AND a baby? What about her partner? I didn’t see any efforts expended. No sorry or explanation to other passengers either. No preparation. No donwloaded materials, toys, Benadryl....What entitlement! She/They have probably gotten away with this and much worse before and this will continue.

No one knows if this kid was SN and not all SN kids act this way. It was bad parenting. You don't drug kids either.

The kid obviously has special needs. No 3 NT year old screams for 8 hrs (assuming that wasn't an exgaggeration).

Nobody here knows the full story, but people want to pile on the mom. No surprise there! Hopefully none of those folks consider themselves Christian.

It's not piling on the mom to recognize that she boarded a plane poorly prepared to take an 8 hour flight with a special needs child. If there were another caregiver or parent present, then that person would also be sharing the blame.

Of course it's piling on the mom. This video was placed online precisely to evoke humiliation and shaming of her. Who knows what measures she tried to take. Even if there were something else she could have done, there's no guarantee the kid would not have screamed. And at the end of the day, the passengers all went home, and this mom stayed the mother of an autistic little boy with some big struggles. Anyone who sees this video and does not feel a lot of sympathy for the mom is extremely self centered and ignorant. And yes, you can be both annoyed and sympathetic at the same time. It's called life. Being a GOOD person happens in exactly these kids of situations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the mom traveling alone with this SN child AND a baby? What about her partner? I didn’t see any efforts expended. No sorry or explanation to other passengers either. No preparation. No donwloaded materials, toys, Benadryl....What entitlement! She/They have probably gotten away with this and much worse before and this will continue.

No one knows if this kid was SN and not all SN kids act this way. It was bad parenting. You don't drug kids either.

The kid obviously has special needs. No 3 NT year old screams for 8 hrs (assuming that wasn't an exgaggeration).

Nobody here knows the full story, but people want to pile on the mom. No surprise there! Hopefully none of those folks consider themselves Christian.

It's not piling on the mom to recognize that she boarded a plane poorly prepared to take an 8 hour flight with a special needs child. If there were another caregiver or parent present, then that person would also be sharing the blame.

Of course it's piling on the mom. This video was placed online precisely to evoke humiliation and shaming of her. Who knows what measures she tried to take. Even if there were something else she could have done, there's no guarantee the kid would not have screamed. And at the end of the day, the passengers all went home, and this mom stayed the mother of an autistic little boy with some big struggles. Anyone who sees this video and does not feel a lot of sympathy for the mom is extremely self centered and ignorant. And yes, you can be both annoyed and sympathetic at the same time. It's called life. Being a GOOD person happens in exactly these kids of situations.

PP here. I'm a mom and grandmother who works with special needs kids every day. I have the utmost compassion for any parent who's trying to provide a loving, supportive home and environment for children with similar needs. I agree that the video should never have been posted. At the same time, it's clear from the video that she did not take the kinds of measures needed for an 8 hour flight with a 3 year old who exhibits these kinds of behaviors. Not even close, when you consider what's available.

[Anonymous]

As a parent of a special needs child, I don't bother to count the times that insensitive bystanders cast judgement on our son's behavior, as if we simply fail to discipline him... That it should be so easy.

Maybe this mom didn't do a great job. Doesn't sound like it.

But I'll also say these bystanders walked not in her shoes but alongside of them for a few hours.

Try living that life and you'd have more compassion.

[Anonymous]

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As a parent of a special needs child, I don't bother to count the times that insensitive bystanders cast judgement on our son's behavior, as if we simply fail to discipline him... That it should be so easy.

Maybe this mom didn't do a great job. Doesn't sound like it.

But I'll also say these bystanders walked not in her shoes but alongside of them for a few hours.

Try living that life and you'd have more compassion.

Well said, PP.

[Anonymous]

I have a well-behaved NT 9 yo and 7 yo that I have not taken to Europe yet. You know why? Because I’m not sure how the flight will go nor the subsequent time changes.

No one HAS to take a transatlantic flight. You have choices. You can NOT GO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a well-behaved NT 9 yo and 7 yo that I have not taken to Europe yet. You know why? Because I’m not sure how the flight will go nor the subsequent time changes.

No one HAS to take a transatlantic flight. You have choices. You can NOT GO.

You are projecting your hypothetical motive/ vacation- on others.

You don’t know why someone else is traveling. It could be a highly compelling reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was the mom traveling alone with this SN child AND a baby? What about her partner? I didn’t see any efforts expended. No sorry or explanation to other passengers either. No preparation. No donwloaded materials, toys, Benadryl....What entitlement! She/They have probably gotten away with this and much worse before and this will continue.

No one knows if this kid was SN and not all SN kids act this way. It was bad parenting. You don't drug kids either.

The kid obviously has special needs. No 3 NT year old screams for 8 hrs (assuming that wasn't an exgaggeration).

Nobody here knows the full story, but people want to pile on the mom. No surprise there! Hopefully none of those folks consider themselves Christian.

It's not piling on the mom to recognize that she boarded a plane poorly prepared to take an 8 hour flight with a special needs child. If there were another caregiver or parent present, then that person would also be sharing the blame.

Of course it's piling on the mom. This video was placed online precisely to evoke humiliation and shaming of her. Who knows what measures she tried to take. Even if there were something else she could have done, there's no guarantee the kid would not have screamed. And at the end of the day, the passengers all went home, and this mom stayed the mother of an autistic little boy with some big struggles. Anyone who sees this video and does not feel a lot of sympathy for the mom is extremely self centered and ignorant. And yes, you can be both annoyed and sympathetic at the same time. It's called life. Being a GOOD person happens in exactly these kids of situations.

PP here. I'm a mom and grandmother who works with special needs kids every day. I have the utmost compassion for any parent who's trying to provide a loving, supportive home and environment for children with similar needs. I agree that the video should never have been posted. At the same time, it's clear from the video that she did not take the kinds of measures needed for an 8 hour flight with a 3 year old who exhibits these kinds of behaviors. Not even close, when you consider what's available.

What do you think is available? You of all people should know there's no magic recipe. Maybe she gave him benadryl and he had a paradoxical reaction. Maybe he's regressing and has never been this bad. Maybe she never took him on a flight before and didn't realize what would happen. Maybe she's an adoptive mom bringing him home. Maybe she's not even his mom. Maybe she throught physically restraining him at that moment would make it Do you think he should have been anesthisized and placed in a straight jacket? Moreover, this is a short clip. We actually have no idea how he behaved or what she did.

[Anonymous]

There has to be more to this story. Think how many stories there are about people being kicked off flights for much more minor behavior these days - there had to be something else that's not in this video that explains why the crew allowed this family to stay on the flight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a well-behaved NT 9 yo and 7 yo that I have not taken to Europe yet. You know why? Because I’m not sure how the flight will go nor the subsequent time changes.

No one HAS to take a transatlantic flight. You have choices. You can NOT GO.

You are projecting your hypothetical motive/ vacation- on others.

You don’t know why someone else is traveling. It could be a highly compelling reason.

Exactly. Maybe she's a military wife flying back to the US to get support for her child.