8 hours of screaming on a flight

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Anonymous wrote:When I see you and your kids boarding , my stomach sinks.

Great. Nobody cares.

Um no. Lots of people think the same thing, me included.

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Anonymous wrote:it was pretty obvious that the child was special needs. he didn't seem to have any words.

Yes, and the other was aware of this BEFORE boarding the plane. Hopefully the result of the video is that she won’t fly with him again, and others will think twice before doing so. I’m glad the video was shared.

Its public transportation. Kids with special needs are part of the public. They have just as much of a right to be there as you do.

Not if they're a public disturbance, especially for an extended period of time (that goes for everyone - special needs or otherwise).

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You buy a ticket for a seat on a plane. You aren't guaranteed a ride free from disturbances. Kids with SNs are part of society and when they are this young, some can be extremely difficult. Don't like it? Too bad.

You aren't guaranteed a flight at all.

A flight is NOT "public transportation". Aviation is a private industry. There are rules to try to ensure passenger safety, but ultimately the airlines have a code of conduct and can make their own specific rules.

And once they realize that people won't put up with this crap, they will follow the money.

Don't like it? Too bad. Spend that energy parenting your kid instead of just inflicting them on everyone else.

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What is hard to understand about this? A cross-country flight is not "public transportation" as the PP claimed. Yes, people aren't guaranteed a flight free of disturbances when they pay for their tickets, but a "disturbance" like this one is hardly par for the course. A poorly behaved child (or parent) may have a right to travel on public transportation (owned and/or operated by a government), but they don't have a right to travel on a private airliner. An airline is a company. In order to protect their earnings, each airline has a code of conduct for their flights and passengers have been removed for violating it. The issue in this case is that they didn't remove the child although they should have.

Exactly. If I paid $850 for my ticket somebody should duct tape the kids mouth and physically restrain him.

Hmmmm. How much did the family pay? Your investment is no more a priority than anyone else’s.

I bring ear plugs. Adults are often noisy too. An entire flight of screaming would be very difficult. Imagine the child and parent were the most uncomfortable.

It seemed like the child was disturbing a ton of passengers on the flight. It wasn't just one passenger who had a problem with listening to a non-stop 8 hour tantrum.

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Anonymous wrote:it was pretty obvious that the child was special needs. he didn't seem to have any words.

Yes, and the other was aware of this BEFORE boarding the plane. Hopefully the result of the video is that she won’t fly with him again, and others will think twice before doing so. I’m glad the video was shared.

Its public transportation. Kids with special needs are part of the public. They have just as much of a right to be there as you do.

Not if they're a public disturbance, especially for an extended period of time (that goes for everyone - special needs or otherwise).

+1

+2

You buy a ticket for a seat on a plane. You aren't guaranteed a ride free from disturbances. Kids with SNs are part of society and when they are this young, some can be extremely difficult. Don't like it? Too bad.

You aren't guaranteed a flight at all.

A flight is NOT "public transportation". Aviation is a private industry. There are rules to try to ensure passenger safety, but ultimately the airlines have a code of conduct and can make their own specific rules.

And once they realize that people won't put up with this crap, they will follow the money.

Don't like it? Too bad. Spend that energy parenting your kid instead of just inflicting them on everyone else.

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What is hard to understand about this? A cross-country flight is not "public transportation" as the PP claimed. Yes, people aren't guaranteed a flight free of disturbances when they pay for their tickets, but a "disturbance" like this one is hardly par for the course. A poorly behaved child (or parent) may have a right to travel on public transportation (owned and/or operated by a government), but they don't have a right to travel on a private airliner. An airline is a company. In order to protect their earnings, each airline has a code of conduct for their flights and passengers have been removed for violating it. The issue in this case is that they didn't remove the child although they should have.

Exactly. If I paid $850 for my ticket somebody should duct tape the kids mouth and physically restrain him.

Hmmmm. How much did the family pay? Your investment is no more a priority than anyone else’s.

I bring ear plugs. Adults are often noisy too. An entire flight of screaming would be very difficult. Imagine the child and parent were the most uncomfortable.

It seemed like the child was disturbing a ton of passengers on the flight. It wasn't just one passenger who had a problem with listening to a non-stop 8 hour tantrum.

That’s pretty much a given. I don’t think the family intended for it to happen. I’ve been on flights with screaming kids, lived. It’s not the best of circumstances, but it’s part of the deal unless you are booming a private plane. I’d love an affordable family friendly alternative fight, let folks that require no children at all on flight pay for that sort of upgraded route. But I don’t think the airlines will offer that ever, and certainly not without charging more. So we all deal and plan the best we can. I’ve been the parent working my tail off to soothe a toddler, I’ve also been the solo traveler only having to listen. The latter is most definitely the preferred role.