Is there modern White flight out of the suburbs happen in DC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rich teens do a lot of crimes, and most American white people are super racist.

They don't all have to be full white supremacists, but every republican in the House caucuses with Steve King and doesn't do a damn thing about it. The same way everyone who lives in Chevy Chase knows it was purpose built to be rich and white and doesn't do a damn thing about it. It's the same thing.

What’s wrong with a rich white neighborhood? Why do losers expect everyone to share with them? Could it just possibly be your ancestors sucked? Yes being born from power and money is great but if you come from slaves, peasants and criminals that is the hand you were dealt. You will never have that head start and it is up to to develop it if you want your kid’s kids to have it. Or you can bitch and piss into the wind trying to erode the advantages handed to affluent kids with resources. GL with that, all you might accomplish is a watering down of middle class privilege which will only come back to haunt the small percentage of minorities that make it to the middle class. The true rich will always transfer privilege

Just for the sake of argument I'd like to counter your cocky commentary with an alternate perspective in regards to gentrification...

What's wrong with a middle class minority neighborhood? Why do privileged pricks expect everyone to share with them? Could it be possibly that you're not all that different from ancestors who loved raping and pillaging people of other ethnicities? Yes being born from power and money is great but its not a friggin free-pass to to run roughshod over every other community and culture that you deem inferior or irrelevant. You will never establish any credibility for all your insistent claims of "white-victimhood" if you keep using your privilege to piss all over decent people as if they are irrelevant just because they're not as wealthy or white as you. But you know what...it doesn't even matter. You may think you're the cat's meow and that your shit don't stink and that everyone is beneath you, but the people of the communities you continually ravage and ruin who are rich in pride and heritage will still find the resolve to rise above. That's why despite coming from slaves, peasants, and criminals odds are no matter how rich and white your neighborhood may be there will always be some non-white residents just a few doors down because like Maya Angelou said...

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.

I don't think people are claiming white-victimhood, quite the contrary.

Do they rise? or do they simply try to shame the team spiking the football after going up yet another TD, talking about "sportsmanship" when they should be talking TDs. Policies have shifted, definitions have shifted and a few have risen out when willing to play the game but I ask what exactly has changed in America since the 1870s? And if you think that there is some massive demographic shift happening that is a harbinger to a truer change, one could argue that there has more or less always been more Africans, Latinos and Natives in this country than white people (if they were counted that is another story) so I am not even sure what you expect to happen.

The resolve, pride, heritage and 3$ will buy someone only a cup of coffee. And a free role of papertowels if you are Puerto Rican and in need, all the back end is same old same old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am in Moco and without naming the specific area have seen white flight I am relatively new to the area but was looking at the demographic for our local school. I dont remember the exact numbers but in the 90's there were approx 60% white kids and the rest were other races, It has gradually switched over and is now only about 8% white.
So either the white people are moving or they are all sending their kids private which I find hard to believe. Makes me sad.

Same here. I'm in Burtonsville. White families in my neighborhood are dying out (literally) and the younger families with kids tend to go private.the demographics of my area have changed dramatically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am in Moco and without naming the specific area have seen white flight I am relatively new to the area but was looking at the demographic for our local school. I dont remember the exact numbers but in the 90's there were approx 60% white kids and the rest were other races, It has gradually switched over and is now only about 8% white.
So either the white people are moving or they are all sending their kids private which I find hard to believe. Makes me sad.

Same here. I'm in Burtonsville. White families in my neighborhood are dying out (literally) and the younger families with kids tend to go private.the demographics of my area have changed dramatically.

Look into the history of Fairfax County sometime

Nearly half of the inner burbs have experienced white flight now

European poster hit the nail on the head. Core cities are where the rich are and the inner burbs are decaying. Contrary to popular belief edge cities are the fastest growing and are populated mainly by millennial of all races who can't afford the core city and are skipping over inner suburbs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am in Moco and without naming the specific area have seen white flight I am relatively new to the area but was looking at the demographic for our local school. I dont remember the exact numbers but in the 90's there were approx 60% white kids and the rest were other races, It has gradually switched over and is now only about 8% white.
So either the white people are moving or they are all sending their kids private which I find hard to believe. Makes me sad.

Same here. I'm in Burtonsville. White families in my neighborhood are dying out (literally) and the younger families with kids tend to go private.the demographics of my area have changed dramatically.

Look into the history of Fairfax County sometime

Nearly half of the inner burbs have experienced white flight now

European poster hit the nail on the head. Core cities are where the rich are and the inner burbs are decaying. Contrary to popular belief edge cities are the fastest growing and are populated mainly by millennial of all races who can't afford the core city and are skipping over inner suburbs

Another anecdote: White ppl in the FFX county planned subdivision I grew up in are being replaced by Indians, Asians, and Africans. The whites that remain in the region tend move farther out and their kids, if they remain in the area, live closer in, DC, Arlington, or closer-in FFX.

I think the US saw White flight because when the national highway system developed and coincided with school desegregation, the cost in terms of time to move to the burbs was minimal and there were perceived serious risks of staying in the city. Overpopulation in the burbs and resulting traffic has made living far out costly and current generations a bit less deterred by fact their kid will be in school with poor blacks. This has led to reurbanization but I think the appeal of the city and its closeness to job centers, walkability thanks to being build mostly before the car, etc., is more limited in the US vs. Europe because we've concentrated our underclass in the cities and continue to do so through massive subsidies.

[Anonymous]

I can’t help but think that all the fear I hear on this board can be allayed by people just mixing more, even intermarrying. It’s happening, Which gives me hope. I think people of similar income backgrounds and education get along well regardless of race or even religion. You have a lot more in common with your neighbors than you think. Even your fear of each other is somewhat mutual. Someone has to break the ice, ask the other to the dance. “Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together try to love one another right now.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but think that all the fear I hear on this board can be allayed by people just mixing more, even intermarrying. It’s happening, Which gives me hope. I think people of similar income backgrounds and education get along well regardless of race or even religion. You have a lot more in common with your neighbors than you think. Even your fear of each other is somewhat mutual. Someone has to break the ice, ask the other to the dance. “Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together try to love one another right now.”

Sadly this doesn't seem to be human nature.

I think you could take 100 random people and put them on a desert island and in 10 years there'd be the hill tribe and the valley tribe and they would be fighting. ?

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It is funny how many of you think there is white flight going on in the burbs because you see brown people. White people are not flying away. Immigrants, especially asians are moving up the socioeconomic ladder (in Loudoun county they are the highest wage earners of all races) brown people like myself want good schools and dont want our kids exposed to the underbelly of America which is just like the 3rd woeld, but with more violence and more drugs.

Brown people like me go to where the best opportunity for our kids are. You Americans just see brown people and sit in your city and say "see I told you so, the whites are fleeing and the browns are taking over". You are just ignorant. I don't want to live in DC or Arlington and send my kids to your sh!t schools or fork over 40k/yr per kid for a private school when I can just live somewhere with great public schools, surrounded by families with the same values.

My parents didnt come here doe me to squander opportunity for myself and future generations. Nor for me to treat my kids like a grand social experiment and send them to a mixed SES school and hope att the major social problems our country has dont influence my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is funny how many of you think there is white flight going on in the burbs because you see brown people. White people are not flying away. Immigrants, especially asians are moving up the socioeconomic ladder (in Loudoun county they are the highest wage earners of all races) brown people like myself want good schools and dont want our kids exposed to the underbelly of America which is just like the 3rd woeld, but with more violence and more drugs.

Brown people like me go to where the best opportunity for our kids are. You Americans just see brown people and sit in your city and say "see I told you so, the whites are fleeing and the browns are taking over". You are just ignorant. I don't want to live in DC or Arlington and send my kids to your sh!t schools or fork over 40k/yr per kid for a private school when I can just live somewhere with great public schools, surrounded by families with the same values.

My parents didnt come here doe me to squander opportunity for myself and future generations. Nor for me to treat my kids like a grand social experiment and send them to a mixed SES school and hope att the major social problems our country has dont influence my kids.

This totally. I'm a brown person living in the faraway burbs of Clarksburg, MD, one reason being the schools. I hate to say it though but I do think white people, whether subconsciously or not, do tend to avoid neighborhoods that have a large number of brown people. So though they may not be moving out.. they aren't moving in.

[Anonymous]

There’s a difference between the way VA suburbs white people are racist about Indian/Asian immigrants/2nd and 3rd gen and the way they are racist about black or Hispanic people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't in a million years live in PG county of that's what you are asking. I have not seen any migration of poor into my Virginia community. We have plenty people of color, lots of Asians with deep pockets. My kids school is 45% white and a farms rate of 5%.

It’s ok, I live in PG County and I wouldn’t move to wherever you live. I am not afraid of poor people or brown people and amazingly my children do not melt upon contact with “the Poors.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a difference between the way VA suburbs white people are racist about Indian/Asian immigrants/2nd and 3rd gen and the way they are racist about black or Hispanic people.

And this makes it ok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is funny how many of you think there is white flight going on in the burbs because you see brown people. White people are not flying away. Immigrants, especially asians are moving up the socioeconomic ladder (in Loudoun county they are the highest wage earners of all races) brown people like myself want good schools and dont want our kids exposed to the underbelly of America which is just like the 3rd woeld, but with more violence and more drugs.

Brown people like me go to where the best opportunity for our kids are. You Americans just see brown people and sit in your city and say "see I told you so, the whites are fleeing and the browns are taking over". You are just ignorant. I don't want to live in DC or Arlington and send my kids to your sh!t schools or fork over 40k/yr per kid for a private school when I can just live somewhere with great public schools, surrounded by families with the same values.

My parents didnt come here doe me to squander opportunity for myself and future generations. Nor for me to treat my kids like a grand social experiment and send them to a mixed SES school and hope att the major social problems our country has dont influence my kids.

This totally. I'm a brown person living in the faraway burbs of Clarksburg, MD, one reason being the schools. I hate to say it though but I do think white people, whether subconsciously or not, do tend to avoid neighborhoods that have a large number of brown people. So though they may not be moving out.. they aren't moving in.

I'm brown and my spouse is brown and we are both professionals with graduate degrees. our jobs are downtown. We would consider it a form of child abuse if we spent 2x2x90 minutes a day commuting. Our kids doing just fine in DCPS elementary and we can afford DC private when we approach middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is funny how many of you think there is white flight going on in the burbs because you see brown people. White people are not flying away. Immigrants, especially asians are moving up the socioeconomic ladder (in Loudoun county they are the highest wage earners of all races) brown people like myself want good schools and dont want our kids exposed to the underbelly of America which is just like the 3rd woeld, but with more violence and more drugs.

Brown people like me go to where the best opportunity for our kids are. You Americans just see brown people and sit in your city and say "see I told you so, the whites are fleeing and the browns are taking over". You are just ignorant. I don't want to live in DC or Arlington and send my kids to your sh!t schools or fork over 40k/yr per kid for a private school when I can just live somewhere with great public schools, surrounded by families with the same values.

My parents didnt come here doe me to squander opportunity for myself and future generations. Nor for me to treat my kids like a grand social experiment and send them to a mixed SES school and hope att the major social problems our country has dont influence my kids.

This totally. I'm a brown person living in the faraway burbs of Clarksburg, MD, one reason being the schools. I hate to say it though but I do think white people, whether subconsciously or not, do tend to avoid neighborhoods that have a large number of brown people. So though they may not be moving out.. they aren't moving in.

I'm brown and my spouse is brown and we are both professionals with degrees. our jobs are downtown. We would consider it a form of child abuse if we spent 2x2x90 minutes a day commuting. Our kids doing just fine in DCPS elementary and we can afford DC private when we approach middle school.

Good that you chose what was best for you. Lots of us like yourself (professionals with a degree) have jobs in the suburbs so no need to be close to DC. No child abuse happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look to major European cities as a model of what will happen here. The wealthier, the closer in you live. The poorer, the further out, until you get to the country estates. I would look at places like Prince William County, Loudoun County, Frederick and Howard Counties as places where that sort of turnover will take place. Meanwhile, DC, Hyattsville, Silver Spring, Arlington etc will prosper.

Likely areas adjacent to mass transit like Metro and Purlple Line will continue to do well.

Seems likely

Except Howard is the Fairfax of Baltimore....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is funny how many of you think there is white flight going on in the burbs because you see brown people. White people are not flying away. Immigrants, especially asians are moving up the socioeconomic ladder (in Loudoun county they are the highest wage earners of all races) brown people like myself want good schools and dont want our kids exposed to the underbelly of America which is just like the 3rd woeld, but with more violence and more drugs.

Brown people like me go to where the best opportunity for our kids are. You Americans just see brown people and sit in your city and say "see I told you so, the whites are fleeing and the browns are taking over". You are just ignorant. I don't want to live in DC or Arlington and send my kids to your sh!t schools or fork over 40k/yr per kid for a private school when I can just live somewhere with great public schools, surrounded by families with the same values.

My parents didnt come here doe me to squander opportunity for myself and future generations. Nor for me to treat my kids like a grand social experiment and send them to a mixed SES school and hope att the major social problems our country has dont influence my kids.

This totally. I'm a brown person living in the faraway burbs of Clarksburg, MD, one reason being the schools. I hate to say it though but I do think white people, whether subconsciously or not, do tend to avoid neighborhoods that have a large number of brown people. So though they may not be moving out.. they aren't moving in.

I'm brown and my spouse is brown and we are both professionals with graduate degrees. our jobs are downtown. We would consider it a form of child abuse if we spent 2x2x90 minutes a day commuting. Our kids doing just fine in DCPS elementary and we can afford DC private when we approach middle school.

I've heard Child Protective Services sets the benchmark at 110 minutes, so you'd be ok. If you're commuting an hour and 50 minutes though, expect a home visit and reevaluation of your parental rights.