Is there modern White flight out of the suburbs happen in DC?

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We are white and want our kids growing up in a diverse neighborhood. Kids that are unfamiliar, awkward, or hostile with diversity will be at a disadvantage. America's future population will be diverse whether you like it or not.

Say it louder for the folks in the back! I'm glad someone gets it.

That is more true for ethnic diversity if anything. SES-wise, society is becoming more and more segregated, and people with similar aspirations, values and standards will cling together regardless of their color. See McLean for Exhibit 1.

I'm white and I 100% agree and am unashamed to live in such a neighborhood. Our neighborhood is full of successful Asians, Hispanics and Blacks (less so than Asians). White people as a whole are a minority. I have no desire to live in a SES diverse community. No desire to deal with the social problems and resulting bad choices that get people in trouble and no desire for those people to be my kids peers. My kids are likely to go to college, are likely to have professional careers and people from like cloth will be their peers as well. No need to muddy the waters.

Flame away. #noapologies

This assumes that all people are low SES due to choices they make. I 100% disagree--if you know anything about the history of this country, you know it is really difficult for some people to move up the socioeconomic ladder, due to no fault of their own.

As one example, check out the graphic here, that shows the likelihood of staying wealthy for white vs. black boys:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html

[Anonymous]

Reading only half of this thread, I think we all need to think the Daily Caller for continuing to employ interns to troll the local forums with their race war bullshit.Although I would like to add: maybe find some smarter interns?

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We are white and want our kids growing up in a diverse neighborhood. Kids that are unfamiliar, awkward, or hostile with diversity will be at a disadvantage. America's future population will be diverse whether you like it or not.

Say it louder for the folks in the back! I'm glad someone gets it.

That is more true for ethnic diversity if anything. SES-wise, society is becoming more and more segregated, and people with similar aspirations, values and standards will cling together regardless of their color. See McLean for Exhibit 1.

I'm white and I 100% agree and am unashamed to live in such a neighborhood. Our neighborhood is full of successful Asians, Hispanics and Blacks (less so than Asians). White people as a whole are a minority. I have no desire to live in a SES diverse community. No desire to deal with the social problems and resulting bad choices that get people in trouble and no desire for those people to be my kids peers. My kids are likely to go to college, are likely to have professional careers and people from like cloth will be their peers as well. No need to muddy the waters.

Flame away. #noapologies

This assumes that all people are low SES due to choices they make. I 100% disagree--if you know anything about the history of this country, you know it is really difficult for some people to move up the socioeconomic ladder, due to no fault of their own.

As one example, check out the graphic here, that shows the likelihood of staying wealthy for white vs. black boys:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html

Yiu can never say ALL people, but many poor people make bbn poor choices which leads to more poverty. Starts with the basics, having kids pit of wedlock and not finishing school. I come from poverty and saw it in my own family and the peers I grew up with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
We are white and want our kids growing up in a diverse neighborhood. Kids that are unfamiliar, awkward, or hostile with diversity will be at a disadvantage. America's future population will be diverse whether you like it or not.

Say it louder for the folks in the back! I'm glad someone gets it.

That is more true for ethnic diversity if anything. SES-wise, society is becoming more and more segregated, and people with similar aspirations, values and standards will cling together regardless of their color. See McLean for Exhibit 1.

I'm white and I 100% agree and am unashamed to live in such a neighborhood. Our neighborhood is full of successful Asians, Hispanics and Blacks (less so than Asians). White people as a whole are a minority. I have no desire to live in a SES diverse community. No desire to deal with the social problems and resulting bad choices that get people in trouble and no desire for those people to be my kids peers. My kids are likely to go to college, are likely to have professional careers and people from like cloth will be their peers as well. No need to muddy the waters.

Flame away. #noapologies

This assumes that all people are low SES due to choices they make. I 100% disagree--if you know anything about the history of this country, you know it is really difficult for some people to move up the socioeconomic ladder, due to no fault of their own.

As one example, check out the graphic here, that shows the likelihood of staying wealthy for white vs. black boys:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html

Yiu can never say ALL people, but many poor people make bbn poor choices which leads to more poverty. Starts with the basics, having kids pit of wedlock and not finishing school. I come from poverty and saw it in my own family and the peers I grew up with.

I read last year that a kid in poverty has to make NO mistakes or bad choices for almost three decades to make it out of poverty. Meanwhile, as a society, we regard mistakes or the occasional bad choice by middle class kids as normal and a “learning opportunity”. Why do we hold the poor kid to such a higher standard? Do we believe that their brains are more mature at 15 than a middle class child of the same age? Brain studies show poverty can slow brain development.

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Anonymous wrote:
We are white and want our kids growing up in a diverse neighborhood. Kids that are unfamiliar, awkward, or hostile with diversity will be at a disadvantage. America's future population will be diverse whether you like it or not.

Say it louder for the folks in the back! I'm glad someone gets it.

That is more true for ethnic diversity if anything. SES-wise, society is becoming more and more segregated, and people with similar aspirations, values and standards will cling together regardless of their color. See McLean for Exhibit 1.

I'm white and I 100% agree and am unashamed to live in such a neighborhood. Our neighborhood is full of successful Asians, Hispanics and Blacks (less so than Asians). White people as a whole are a minority. I have no desire to live in a SES diverse community. No desire to deal with the social problems and resulting bad choices that get people in trouble and no desire for those people to be my kids peers. My kids are likely to go to college, are likely to have professional careers and people from like cloth will be their peers as well. No need to muddy the waters.

Flame away. #noapologies

This assumes that all people are low SES due to choices they make. I 100% disagree--if you know anything about the history of this country, you know it is really difficult for some people to move up the socioeconomic ladder, due to no fault of their own.

As one example, check out the graphic here, that shows the likelihood of staying wealthy for white vs. black boys:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html

Yiu can never say ALL people, but many poor people make bbn poor choices which leads to more poverty. Starts with the basics, having kids pit of wedlock and not finishing school. I come from poverty and saw it in my own family and the peers I grew up with.

I read last year that a kid in poverty has to make NO mistakes or bad choices for almost three decades to make it out of poverty. Meanwhile, as a society, we regard mistakes or the occasional bad choice by middle class kids as normal and a “learning opportunity”. Why do we hold the poor kid to such a higher standard? Do we believe that their brains are more mature at 15 than a middle class child of the same age? Brain studies show poverty can slow brain development.

I'm the poster you are responding to and I grew up in poverty and ever experienced homelessness. I've made pleanty of mistakes, just not the same ones my parents made. Here is a list of the dumb things my parents did that I did not repeat. It was pretty sinple:

1. I did not get pregnant out of wedlock, nor do i have more children than I can care for.
2. I went to college. Guess what happens when you are at poverty level and you go to college? It's free. College ed my escape and I never looked back.
3. I've never done drugs, nor do I drink heavy.

I was immersed in poverty and was immersed in a community of poor choices and those poor choices snowballed into more poverty, until you are so deep in a poverty hole there is no crawling out. My father is dead from alcohol related complications and my mother lives in a condo that I pay for while she lives off government assistance and pops pills all day and night, slowly marching towards death. If it were not for me, she would also be dead or on the streets.

I think it gives you the warm and fuzzies to think that poor people are just victims of circumstance and some are, but most are victims of their own poor choices and those choices are passed down generation to generation. Not interested in mingling with that. I've had my fill.

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What do people mean lift people out of poverty? Do you think we are going to eliminate poor people? Do you think we are going to raise the standard of living where they have a 3bedroom house and no debt? We live in a consumer society which requires cheap labor, the only variable is who is doing the labor and the criteria to get one of the much less common higher level jobs.

We for years have exspanded the economy and imported the labor for the crappy level of the economy. Now we are saying we want the imported labor to move to the middle? Who is going to back fill them? More illegals? Imported labor rarely goes away but is rarely welcomed into the privileged labor class because it often corresponds to one for one displacement. 50 of our country is basically poor and the middle class is two way fluid.

Fix our guest worker program bring it out of the shadows and the equality conversation will have a real change to get started. The other problem is how much of a helping hand to we want to give to the URMs to counter the systemic institutional & economic 500 year head start white people have enjoyed. Typically power and treasure are taken not given so even having that conversation shows how great America is but if we are honest most token overtures will be superficial and condescending with the real actions will be to hold on to the Status quo.... hence republican majorities.

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Rich teens do a lot of crimes, and most American white people are super racist.

They don't all have to be full white supremacists, but every republican in the House caucuses with Steve King and doesn't do a damn thing about it. The same way everyone who lives in Chevy Chase knows it was purpose built to be rich and white and doesn't do a damn thing about it. It's the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:New PP who just read this thread...

The blatant racist who has been posting also said that they just moved to the area in the last year or so. I wonder if our current President had anything to do with that?

I live in D.C. and would have never thought I would see a confederate flag (which were common in my small town back home), but nevertheless there is a truck parked outside my house regularly with one.

I fear folks like these moving into my neighborhood more than any other.

My family moved to a neighborhood in Fairfax County when I was in high school. Many of the neighbors had confederate flags.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
We are white and want our kids growing up in a diverse neighborhood. Kids that are unfamiliar, awkward, or hostile with diversity will be at a disadvantage. America's future population will be diverse whether you like it or not.

Say it louder for the folks in the back! I'm glad someone gets it.

That is more true for ethnic diversity if anything. SES-wise, society is becoming more and more segregated, and people with similar aspirations, values and standards will cling together regardless of their color. See McLean for Exhibit 1.

I'm white and I 100% agree and am unashamed to live in such a neighborhood. Our neighborhood is full of successful Asians, Hispanics and Blacks (less so than Asians). White people as a whole are a minority. I have no desire to live in a SES diverse community. No desire to deal with the social problems and resulting bad choices that get people in trouble and no desire for those people to be my kids peers. My kids are likely to go to college, are likely to have professional careers and people from like cloth will be their peers as well. No need to muddy the waters.

Flame away. #noapologies

This assumes that all people are low SES due to choices they make. I 100% disagree--if you know anything about the history of this country, you know it is really difficult for some people to move up the socioeconomic ladder, due to no fault of their own.

As one example, check out the graphic here, that shows the likelihood of staying wealthy for white vs. black boys:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html

Yiu can never say ALL people, but many poor people make bbn poor choices which leads to more poverty. Starts with the basics, having kids pit of wedlock and not finishing school. I come from poverty and saw it in my own family and the peers I grew up with.

I read last year that a kid in poverty has to make NO mistakes or bad choices for almost three decades to make it out of poverty. Meanwhile, as a society, we regard mistakes or the occasional bad choice by middle class kids as normal and a “learning opportunity”. Why do we hold the poor kid to such a higher standard? Do we believe that their brains are more mature at 15 than a middle class child of the same age? Brain studies show poverty can slow brain development.

I can see that. I am from a black family and everyone in my family is from PG county (the poorest cities there not like Bowie, MD). My family actually has lived in Maryland for hundreds of years and some relatives are buried on plantations there.However, today everyone in the family owns a home, has retirement etc. My parents moved and have a very nice life. Now not every single person has made the right choices, but many have done well for themselves. I definitely think a lot of sacrifices have been made, but so many things worked in our favor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
We are white and want our kids growing up in a diverse neighborhood. Kids that are unfamiliar, awkward, or hostile with diversity will be at a disadvantage. America's future population will be diverse whether you like it or not.

Say it louder for the folks in the back! I'm glad someone gets it.

That is more true for ethnic diversity if anything. SES-wise, society is becoming more and more segregated, and people with similar aspirations, values and standards will cling together regardless of their color. See McLean for Exhibit 1.

I'm white and I 100% agree and am unashamed to live in such a neighborhood. Our neighborhood is full of successful Asians, Hispanics and Blacks (less so than Asians). White people as a whole are a minority. I have no desire to live in a SES diverse community. No desire to deal with the social problems and resulting bad choices that get people in trouble and no desire for those people to be my kids peers. My kids are likely to go to college, are likely to have professional careers and people from like cloth will be their peers as well. No need to muddy the waters.

Flame away. #noapologies

This assumes that all people are low SES due to choices they make. I 100% disagree--if you know anything about the history of this country, you know it is really difficult for some people to move up the socioeconomic ladder, due to no fault of their own.

As one example, check out the graphic here, that shows the likelihood of staying wealthy for white vs. black boys:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html

Yiu can never say ALL people, but many poor people make bbn poor choices which leads to more poverty. Starts with the basics, having kids pit of wedlock and not finishing school. I come from poverty and saw it in my own family and the peers I grew up with.

I read last year that a kid in poverty has to make NO mistakes or bad choices for almost three decades to make it out of poverty. Meanwhile, as a society, we regard mistakes or the occasional bad choice by middle class kids as normal and a “learning opportunity”. Why do we hold the poor kid to such a higher standard? Do we believe that their brains are more mature at 15 than a middle class child of the same age? Brain studies show poverty can slow brain development.

You read but I experienced that a climb out of poverty took one US Army recruiter and a helluva lot of work. I went from a GED to two master’s degrees and a life I didn’t even know existed. My bad choices were legendary and I thank god I was too ugly to get a girl pregnant or that woukd have been on the list. The handwringing about the difficulty of clawing out of poverty is a palliative for the lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich teens do a lot of crimes, and most American white people are super racist.

They don't all have to be full white supremacists, but every republican in the House caucuses with Steve King and doesn't do a damn thing about it. The same way everyone who lives in Chevy Chase knows it was purpose built to be rich and white and doesn't do a damn thing about it. It's the same thing.

Oh sweetie, nearly every neighborhood built before the mid 1960s was purpose built to be at least white. Even Persians were excluded from my neighborhood covenants unless they were members of a homeowner’s domestic staff.

For their part, Freedmen’s Villages were purpose built for African Americans and post World War II communities, like the former Carver Homes near the Pentagon, were purpose built for African American military.

You can’t do a damn thing about it because of the pesky constitution and the fact that removing racial covenants woukd affect the chain of title to a property.

Don’t be someone who wants to bury our shameful history. Let it stand for all to see.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich teens do a lot of crimes, and most American white people are super racist.

They don't all have to be full white supremacists, but every republican in the House caucuses with Steve King and doesn't do a damn thing about it. The same way everyone who lives in Chevy Chase knows it was purpose built to be rich and white and doesn't do a damn thing about it. It's the same thing.

What’s wrong with a rich white neighborhood? Why do losers expect everyone to share with them? Could it just possibly be your ancestors sucked? Yes being born from power and money is great but if you come from slaves, peasants and criminals that is the hand you were dealt. You will never have that head start and it is up to to develop it if you want your kid’s kids to have it. Or you can bitch and piss into the wind trying to erode the advantages handed to affluent kids with resources. GL with that, all you might accomplish is a watering down of middle class privilege which will only come back to haunt the small percentage of minorities that make it to the middle class. The true rich will always transfer privilege

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rich teens do a lot of crimes, and most American white people are super racist.

They don't all have to be full white supremacists, but every republican in the House caucuses with Steve King and doesn't do a damn thing about it. The same way everyone who lives in Chevy Chase knows it was purpose built to be rich and white and doesn't do a damn thing about it. It's the same thing.

What’s wrong with a rich white neighborhood? Why do losers expect everyone to share with them? Could it just possibly be your ancestors sucked? Yes being born from power and money is great but if you come from slaves, peasants and criminals that is the hand you were dealt. You will never have that head start and it is up to to develop it if you want your kid’s kids to have it. Or you can bitch and piss into the wind trying to erode the advantages handed to affluent kids with resources. GL with that, all you might accomplish is a watering down of middle class privilege which will only come back to haunt the small percentage of minorities that make it to the middle class. The true rich will always transfer privilege

Christ, I wish this thread would just die

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rich teens do a lot of crimes, and most American white people are super racist.

They don't all have to be full white supremacists, but every republican in the House caucuses with Steve King and doesn't do a damn thing about it. The same way everyone who lives in Chevy Chase knows it was purpose built to be rich and white and doesn't do a damn thing about it. It's the same thing.

What’s wrong with a rich white neighborhood? Why do losers expect everyone to share with them? Could it just possibly be your ancestors sucked? Yes being born from power and money is great but if you come from slaves, peasants and criminals that is the hand you were dealt. You will never have that head start and it is up to to develop it if you want your kid’s kids to have it. Or you can bitch and piss into the wind trying to erode the advantages handed to affluent kids with resources. GL with that, all you might accomplish is a watering down of middle class privilege which will only come back to haunt the small percentage of minorities that make it to the middle class. The true rich will always transfer privilege

Just for the sake of argument I'd like to counter your cocky commentary with an alternate perspective in regards to gentrification...

What's wrong with a middle class minority neighborhood? Why do privileged pricks expect everyone to share with them? Could it be possibly that you're not all that different from ancestors who loved raping and pillaging people of other ethnicities? Yes being born from power and money is great but its not a friggin free-pass to to run roughshod over every other community and culture that you deem inferior or irrelevant. You will never establish any credibility for all your insistent claims of "white-victimhood" if you keep using your privilege to piss all over decent people as if they are irrelevant just because they're not as wealthy or white as you. But you know what...it doesn't even matter. You may think you're the cat's meow and that your shit don't stink and that everyone is beneath you, but the people of the communities you continually ravage and ruin who are rich in pride and heritage will still find the resolve to rise above. That's why despite coming from slaves, peasants, and criminals odds are no matter how rich and white your neighborhood may be there will always be some non-white residents just a few doors down because like Maya Angelou said...

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look to major European cities as a model of what will happen here. The wealthier, the closer in you live. The poorer, the further out, until you get to the country estates. I would look at places like Prince William County, Loudoun County, Frederick and Howard Counties as places where that sort of turnover will take place. Meanwhile, DC, Hyattsville, Silver Spring, Arlington etc will prosper.

Likely areas adjacent to mass transit like Metro and Purlple Line will continue to do well.

Seems likely