Gentrifiers and Black Lives Matter yard signs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

Hey I would rather see a sign in OP's yard and know that one more person cares about black people being shot by police. I don't give a damn if she's a hypocrite. Better a sign than nothing.

She should also care about police being shot by black people too. Or blacks that kill blacks which is more prevalent. Pick your battles but IMO the neighborhood isn't the place to get political.

+ a million

Exactly!!!!!!!!

Good to know. I welcome you pps to come to my neighborhood and get involved in working with children so you can help create positive change. I'm so glad to know that you care about these folks and are going to get actively involved in helping out the community. Because, after this discussion, I know how important it is to many posters that they not appear to be hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

Hey I would rather see a sign in OP's yard and know that one more person cares about black people being shot by police. I don't give a damn if she's a hypocrite. Better a sign than nothing.

She should also care about police being shot by black people too. Or blacks that kill blacks which is more prevalent. Pick your battles but IMO the neighborhood isn't the place to get political.

So I take it that you tell your neighbors to take down their signs advocating a political candidate as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

Hey I would rather see a sign in OP's yard and know that one more person cares about black people being shot by police. I don't give a damn if she's a hypocrite. Better a sign than nothing.

She should also care about police being shot by black people too. Or blacks that kill blacks which is more prevalent. Pick your battles but IMO the neighborhood isn't the place to get political.

+ a million

Exactly!!!!!!!!

Good to know. I welcome you pps to come to my neighborhood and get involved in working with children so you can help create positive change. I'm so glad to know that you care about these folks and are going to get actively involved in helping out the community. Because, after this discussion, I know how important it is to many posters that they not appear to be hypocrites.

Same goes for you!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

Hey I would rather see a sign in OP's yard and know that one more person cares about black people being shot by police. I don't give a damn if she's a hypocrite. Better a sign than nothing.

She should also care about police being shot by black people too. Or blacks that kill blacks which is more prevalent. Pick your battles but IMO the neighborhood isn't the place to get political.

+ a million

Exactly!!!!!!!!

Because home is the last place where people want to feel uncomfortable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

OP again - not a social worker, but close enough. Assuming LAMB is the go-to charter for gentrifiers, then no I wouldn't want a LAMB due to demographics if there was a better or equal but more convenient charter, even if it was overwhelmingly black/not "like us".

Absolutely admit that I'm not getting a babysitter for an event that happens after bedtime or taking a wild toddler to a serious daytime event. I did a lot more activist work before kids and plan/hope/intend to get my kid(s) involved when they are old enough to actually participate and not be distractions. My mom drug me to a million rallies, letter writing events, and volunteer opportunities as a kid, and I fully intend to do the same. That said, does that mean I should wait to put up a sign until I can actually get involved again? Also welcome any suggestions for how to be involved with small kids!

Hi OP, I am a NP. I have a preschooler and a baby, and am pretty involved in the democratic party/indivisible/other local groups, as well as other non-political community organizations. I work full time also and have other commitments, but changing the current political landscape means a lot to me (as does general civic involvement). How I get involved with two small children?

1- My husband is home w/the kids while I am at meetings/rallys/events/doing volunteer work/getting signatures/what have you. We have had a few serious talks about the amount of time that I commit to my "causes" so that it doesn't hurt our marriage...but he honestly considers his supporting me while I support the resistance to be his own way of supporting the resistance, because he has no desire to do a lot of what I do.
2- I volunteer to do things that I can do at home, after bedtime or during naptime. You can phone bank from home for instance. Or write letters, emails, help organize event logistics, etc. It's not sexy, but its necessary.
3- If my husband and I want to do something together (womens march, fundraisers, etc.) we get a babysitter. Or, if he is burnt out from his having no "me" time because he is always w/the kids because I am out doing things, we get a babysitter.

And, FWIW, I don't put any kind of signs in my yard. Just like I (rarely) post things on Facebook where I pat myself on the back about what I have done. Nor do I wear a SHE PERSISTED tshirt. Your actions will speak louder than your words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will become of these signs when owners sell and move to Arlington for "better schools?"

They will convey with the property, just like a swingset, pool table, or heavy sleeper sofa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

Hey I would rather see a sign in OP's yard and know that one more person cares about black people being shot by police. I don't give a damn if she's a hypocrite. Better a sign than nothing.

She should also care about police being shot by black people too. Or blacks that kill blacks which is more prevalent. Pick your battles but IMO the neighborhood isn't the place to get political.

+ a million

Exactly!!!!!!!!

Common sense you'd think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

OP again - not a social worker, but close enough. Assuming LAMB is the go-to charter for gentrifiers, then no I wouldn't want a LAMB due to demographics if there was a better or equal but more convenient charter, even if it was overwhelmingly black/not "like us".

Absolutely admit that I'm not getting a babysitter for an event that happens after bedtime or taking a wild toddler to a serious daytime event. I did a lot more activist work before kids and plan/hope/intend to get my kid(s) involved when they are old enough to actually participate and not be distractions. My mom drug me to a million rallies, letter writing events, and volunteer opportunities as a kid, and I fully intend to do the same. That said, does that mean I should wait to put up a sign until I can actually get involved again? Also welcome any suggestions for how to be involved with small kids!

Hi OP, I am a NP. I have a preschooler and a baby, and am pretty involved in the democratic party/indivisible/other local groups, as well as other non-political community organizations. I work full time also and have other commitments, but changing the current political landscape means a lot to me (as does general civic involvement). How I get involved with two small children?

1- My husband is home w/the kids while I am at meetings/rallys/events/doing volunteer work/getting signatures/what have you. We have had a few serious talks about the amount of time that I commit to my "causes" so that it doesn't hurt our marriage...but he honestly considers his supporting me while I support the resistance to be his own way of supporting the resistance, because he has no desire to do a lot of what I do.
2- I volunteer to do things that I can do at home, after bedtime or during naptime. You can phone bank from home for instance. Or write letters, emails, help organize event logistics, etc. It's not sexy, but its necessary.
3- If my husband and I want to do something together (womens march, fundraisers, etc.) we get a babysitter. Or, if he is burnt out from his having no "me" time because he is always w/the kids because I am out doing things, we get a babysitter.

And, FWIW, I don't put any kind of signs in my yard. Just like I (rarely) post things on Facebook where I pat myself on the back about what I have done. Nor do I wear a SHE PERSISTED tshirt. Your actions will speak louder than your words.

DP. Your words are louder than your actions here, implying that anyone can get involved the way you have. It's offensive, for example, to say that what you're doing is more important than merely making your feelings known.

I'm a black person and would almost rather you put a sign in your yard and say nothing else, rather than what you've said here. Is your post not patting yourself on the back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

Hey I would rather see a sign in OP's yard and know that one more person cares about black people being shot by police. I don't give a damn if she's a hypocrite. Better a sign than nothing.

She should also care about police being shot by black people too. Or blacks that kill blacks which is more prevalent. Pick your battles but IMO the neighborhood isn't the place to get political.

The point of the BLM movement is that it is a bigger deal when representative of the state engage in violence against citizens. Sounds like you don't agree with that. Sounds like this is not about whether its appropriate for a white gentrifier supports BLM with a sign - its that you just fundamentally disagree with the BLM perspective. That is your right, of course, but you are not saying anything relevant to OPs question, I think.

I disagree with the Tea Party, but I understand why people put tea party signs on their lawns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What will become of these signs when owners sell and move to Arlington for "better schools?"

They will get the sign that has messages in multiple languages -- that no one in their lilly white neighborhoods can read.

What lily white neighborhoods are there in Arlington?

Lee Heights, Bellevue Forest, Dover, Crystal Sorings, Maywood, Waverly Hills, Woodlawn, Waycroft, Tara, Larchmont, Leeway Heights, Overlee Knolls, Berkshire, Oakwood, Heather Heights, Minor Hill, Williamsburg Village, Madison Manor, Dominion Hills, Gold Club Manor, Country Club Hills, Manor, Estates, Garden City, Livingston Heights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What will become of these signs when owners sell and move to Arlington for "better schools?"

They will get the sign that has messages in multiple languages -- that no one in their lilly white neighborhoods can read.

What lily white neighborhoods are there in Arlington?

Lee Heights, Bellevue Forest, Dover, Crystal Sorings, Maywood, Waverly Hills, Woodlawn, Waycroft, Tara, Larchmont, Leeway Heights, Overlee Knolls, Berkshire, Oakwood, Heather Heights, Minor Hill, Williamsburg Village, Madison Manor, Dominion Hills, Gold Club Manor, Country Club Hills, Manor, Estates, Garden City, Livingston Heights

ah, census tracts 1002, 1003, 1004, and 1005

All about 90% white or less.

I see you are using the DCUM definition of lily white, which includes places with 10% or more people of color.

Also those are the whitest parts of Arlington. up north of the RB corridor.

AFAICT lots of folk who move from DC for the schools end up either in the RB corridor itself, or even in, mirabile dictu, South Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

Hey I would rather see a sign in OP's yard and know that one more person cares about black people being shot by police. I don't give a damn if she's a hypocrite. Better a sign than nothing.

She should also care about police being shot by black people too. Or blacks that kill blacks which is more prevalent. Pick your battles but IMO the neighborhood isn't the place to get political.

+ a million

Exactly!!!!!!!!

Good to know. I welcome you pps to come to my neighborhood and get involved in working with children so you can help create positive change. I'm so glad to know that you care about these folks and are going to get actively involved in helping out the community. Because, after this discussion, I know how important it is to many posters that they not appear to be hypocrites.

Same goes for you!!

Hahah! I am working with children in my neighborhood and do regular fundraising for a tutoring program aimed at underserved kids. Tutored a kid for years who is now in college so I know that this kind of volunteering can help. Would love to see you there! We need a lot more people like you who seem to be very worried about poor black children. Don't be a hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

OP again - not a social worker, but close enough. Assuming LAMB is the go-to charter for gentrifiers, then no I wouldn't want a LAMB due to demographics if there was a better or equal but more convenient charter, even if it was overwhelmingly black/not "like us".

Absolutely admit that I'm not getting a babysitter for an event that happens after bedtime or taking a wild toddler to a serious daytime event. I did a lot more activist work before kids and plan/hope/intend to get my kid(s) involved when they are old enough to actually participate and not be distractions. My mom drug me to a million rallies, letter writing events, and volunteer opportunities as a kid, and I fully intend to do the same. That said, does that mean I should wait to put up a sign until I can actually get involved again? Also welcome any suggestions for how to be involved with small kids!

Hi OP, I am a NP. I have a preschooler and a baby, and am pretty involved in the democratic party/indivisible/other local groups, as well as other non-political community organizations. I work full time also and have other commitments, but changing the current political landscape means a lot to me (as does general civic involvement). How I get involved with two small children?

1- My husband is home w/the kids while I am at meetings/rallys/events/doing volunteer work/getting signatures/what have you. We have had a few serious talks about the amount of time that I commit to my "causes" so that it doesn't hurt our marriage...but he honestly considers his supporting me while I support the resistance to be his own way of supporting the resistance, because he has no desire to do a lot of what I do.
2- I volunteer to do things that I can do at home, after bedtime or during naptime. You can phone bank from home for instance. Or write letters, emails, help organize event logistics, etc. It's not sexy, but its necessary.
3- If my husband and I want to do something together (womens march, fundraisers, etc.) we get a babysitter. Or, if he is burnt out from his having no "me" time because he is always w/the kids because I am out doing things, we get a babysitter.

And, FWIW, I don't put any kind of signs in my yard. Just like I (rarely) post things on Facebook where I pat myself on the back about what I have done. Nor do I wear a SHE PERSISTED tshirt. Your actions will speak louder than your words.

DP. Your words are louder than your actions here, implying that anyone can get involved the way you have. It's offensive, for example, to say that what you're doing is more important than merely making your feelings known.

I'm a black person and would almost rather you put a sign in your yard and say nothing else, rather than what you've said here. Is your post not patting yourself on the back?

OP specifically asked:

Also welcome any suggestions for how to be involved with small kids!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a sign on your front lawn to support a cause? More effective would be to volunteer or DO something rather than a shallow sign of status.

I agree that only having a yard sign is not enough. But I don't think that OP is suggesting that having a yard sign is her only form of activism.

Having a yard sign or bumper sticker or button or whatever is a very easy, very cheap, very small thing. But, I don't think it's harmful.

Actually, OP said exactly that. She admitted that her only form of activism is her "social worker" job and she can't do much more than that. So, yeah, basically OP just wants to put a sign on her lawn (and still send her kid to LAMB). Just another hypocrite.

Hey I would rather see a sign in OP's yard and know that one more person cares about black people being shot by police. I don't give a damn if she's a hypocrite. Better a sign than nothing.

She should also care about police being shot by black people too. Or blacks that kill blacks which is more prevalent. Pick your battles but IMO the neighborhood isn't the place to get political.

The point of the BLM movement is that it is a bigger deal when representative of the state engage in violence against citizens. Sounds like you don't agree with that. Sounds like this is not about whether its appropriate for a white gentrifier supports BLM with a sign - its that you just fundamentally disagree with the BLM perspective. That is your right, of course, but you are not saying anything relevant to OPs question, I think.

I disagree with the Tea Party, but I understand why people put tea party signs on their lawns.

Well said, pp. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

OP it's your home so do what you feel is comfortable.

I'm passionate about blue lives and white lives matter. I put up signs and am active in those communities.