Gentrifiers and Black Lives Matter yard signs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously - don't clutter up the neighborhood with signs, it lowers property values.

I did ask our neighbor to take down her BLM sign when our house went on the market and she refused. At closing the buyer said "we know who to avoid in the neighborhood". The buyers and I are black. The neighbor is white.

Can you explain this to me PP? I am neither white nor black (Asian American) but don't really understand why you would both avoid the neighbor because of her sign. Because she is obstinate and disrespected your request or because her sign signals something to you as black people that is offensive?

I asked her to take down the sign because I thought it signaled to people looking at my home that there was a neighbor who is pushing a political agenda which might make potential buyers uncomfortable. The buyers mentioned the BLM sign at closing and made the comment that they would avoid the neigbot because they did not want to be caught up in her views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its sad and pathetic that Some people on this thread think police are a threat If not the biggest threat to the black community.

Give me a fing break

I guess it all comes down to individual perspective doesn't it. That's what opinions are based on aren't they - individual perspectives stemming from personal observations and experiences with a hint or two of implicit bias and inherent prejudice all mixed in together. Opinions on race, religion, politics, parenting, education, employment, fashion, friendships and relationships, etc. etc. etc. all essentially come down to each individual persons' perspective. So with regard to the people who have had different life experiences than you and have had different life observations than you and subsequently hold different opinions about law enforcement than you are you just going to sit there and insist that they're TOTALLY wrong? You're not going to take into account the fact that some people have seen things you haven't seen and dealt with circumstances that you haven't? You're not going to take into account the fact that (GASP!!) not everyone on this planet grew up in your exact house in your precise neighborhood?
Sigh...
You're the one who needs to give folks a f'ing break.

Nope this is huge and a big liberal fallacy

Show me facts and numbers Thats What will convince me and logical adults not overhyped media saturation on a very few isolated incidents Or a couple of yardsigns

When you wake up in the morning do you review facts and numbers to decide what attitude/outlook you're going to adopt for the day?
"I wonder how I should feel about darker skinned black people vs. lighter skin black people...hmmmm...the numbers don't reveal much, I guess I'll just consider them all inferior."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously - don't clutter up the neighborhood with signs, it lowers property values.

I did ask our neighbor to take down her BLM sign when our house went on the market and she refused. At closing the buyer said "we know who to avoid in the neighborhood". The buyers and I are black. The neighbor is white.

Can you explain this to me PP? I am neither white nor black (Asian American) but don't really understand why you would both avoid the neighbor because of her sign. Because she is obstinate and disrespected your request or because her sign signals something to you as black people that is offensive?

I asked her to take down the sign because I thought it signaled to people looking at my home that there was a neighbor who is pushing a political agenda which might make potential buyers uncomfortable. The buyers mentioned the BLM sign at closing and made the comment that they would avoid the neigbot because they did not want to be caught up in her views.

If find that extremely hard to believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its sad and pathetic that Some people on this thread think police are a threat If not the biggest threat to the black community.

Give me a fing break

I guess it all comes down to individual perspective doesn't it. That's what opinions are based on aren't they - individual perspectives stemming from personal observations and experiences with a hint or two of implicit bias and inherent prejudice all mixed in together. Opinions on race, religion, politics, parenting, education, employment, fashion, friendships and relationships, etc. etc. etc. all essentially come down to each individual persons' perspective. So with regard to the people who have had different life experiences than you and have had different life observations than you and subsequently hold different opinions about law enforcement than you are you just going to sit there and insist that they're TOTALLY wrong? You're not going to take into account the fact that some people have seen things you haven't seen and dealt with circumstances that you haven't? You're not going to take into account the fact that (GASP!!) not everyone on this planet grew up in your exact house in your precise neighborhood?
Sigh...
You're the one who needs to give folks a f'ing break.

Nope this is huge and a big liberal fallacy

Show me facts and numbers Thats What will convince me and logical adults not overhyped media saturation on a very few isolated incidents Or a couple of yardsigns

It is a liberal fallacy that not everyone has had your exact experience, lived in your exact house and precise neighborhood?
You are crazy AF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its sad and pathetic that Some people on this thread think police are a threat If not the biggest threat to the black community.

Give me a fing break

I guess it all comes down to individual perspective doesn't it. That's what opinions are based on aren't they - individual perspectives stemming from personal observations and experiences with a hint or two of implicit bias and inherent prejudice all mixed in together. Opinions on race, religion, politics, parenting, education, employment, fashion, friendships and relationships, etc. etc. etc. all essentially come down to each individual persons' perspective. So with regard to the people who have had different life experiences than you and have had different life observations than you and subsequently hold different opinions about law enforcement than you are you just going to sit there and insist that they're TOTALLY wrong? You're not going to take into account the fact that some people have seen things you haven't seen and dealt with circumstances that you haven't? You're not going to take into account the fact that (GASP!!) not everyone on this planet grew up in your exact house in your precise neighborhood?
Sigh...
You're the one who needs to give folks a f'ing break.

Nope this is huge and a big liberal fallacy

Show me facts and numbers Thats What will convince me and logical adults not overhyped media saturation on a very few isolated incidents Or a couple of yardsigns

When you wake up in the morning do you review facts and numbers to decide what attitude/outlook you're going to adopt for the day?
"I wonder how I should feel about darker skinned black people vs. lighter skin black people...hmmmm...the numbers don't reveal much, I guess I'll just consider them all inferior."

Im in an analytical field its how I view the world sorry You Cant keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its sad and pathetic that Some people on this thread think police are a threat If not the biggest threat to the black community.

Give me a fing break

I guess it all comes down to individual perspective doesn't it. That's what opinions are based on aren't they - individual perspectives stemming from personal observations and experiences with a hint or two of implicit bias and inherent prejudice all mixed in together. Opinions on race, religion, politics, parenting, education, employment, fashion, friendships and relationships, etc. etc. etc. all essentially come down to each individual persons' perspective. So with regard to the people who have had different life experiences than you and have had different life observations than you and subsequently hold different opinions about law enforcement than you are you just going to sit there and insist that they're TOTALLY wrong? You're not going to take into account the fact that some people have seen things you haven't seen and dealt with circumstances that you haven't? You're not going to take into account the fact that (GASP!!) not everyone on this planet grew up in your exact house in your precise neighborhood?
Sigh...
You're the one who needs to give folks a f'ing break.

Nope this is huge and a big liberal fallacy

Show me facts and numbers Thats What will convince me and logical adults not overhyped media saturation on a very few isolated incidents Or a couple of yardsigns

When you wake up in the morning do you review facts and numbers to decide what attitude/outlook you're going to adopt for the day?
"I wonder how I should feel about darker skinned black people vs. lighter skin black people...hmmmm...the numbers don't reveal much, I guess I'll just consider them all inferior."

Im in an analytical field its how I view the world sorry You Cant keep up.

An analytical field meaning the 10 x 12 square footage of your momma's basement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its sad and pathetic that Some people on this thread think police are a threat If not the biggest threat to the black community.

Give me a fing break

I guess it all comes down to individual perspective doesn't it. That's what opinions are based on aren't they - individual perspectives stemming from personal observations and experiences with a hint or two of implicit bias and inherent prejudice all mixed in together. Opinions on race, religion, politics, parenting, education, employment, fashion, friendships and relationships, etc. etc. etc. all essentially come down to each individual persons' perspective. So with regard to the people who have had different life experiences than you and have had different life observations than you and subsequently hold different opinions about law enforcement than you are you just going to sit there and insist that they're TOTALLY wrong? You're not going to take into account the fact that some people have seen things you haven't seen and dealt with circumstances that you haven't? You're not going to take into account the fact that (GASP!!) not everyone on this planet grew up in your exact house in your precise neighborhood?
Sigh...
You're the one who needs to give folks a f'ing break.

Nope this is huge and a big liberal fallacy

Show me facts and numbers Thats What will convince me and logical adults not overhyped media saturation on a very few isolated incidents Or a couple of yardsigns

When you wake up in the morning do you review facts and numbers to decide what attitude/outlook you're going to adopt for the day?
"I wonder how I should feel about darker skinned black people vs. lighter skin black people...hmmmm...the numbers don't reveal much, I guess I'll just consider them all inferior."

Im in an analytical field its how I view the world sorry You Cant keep up.

No need to apologize. Far be it from me to give two shits about whether or not some anonymous John/Jane Doe's opinions are aligned with my own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:y

Show me facts and numbers Thats What will convince me and logical adults not overhyped media saturation on a very few isolated incidents Or a couple of yardsigns

I am not going to google for you, but from what I have seen, the statistical evidence for more fatalities to blacks at the hands of police is weak, but for more harassment at the hands of police is strong. Also strong evidence of close DA-police cooperation making prosecution of police in general problematic, regardless of the race of the victim of alleged police violence, and strong evidence at least some departments have a culture of racism.

I won't put out a BLM yard sign myself, nor do I regularly repost their memes (in part for reasons above), but there is enough there that I am glad they have raised concerns, and at least some of the solutions they have proposed seem unassailable, regardless of how the data plays out on differential (unjustified) police violence by race. So I can't see being upset by BLM signs, nor do I see it as a war on cops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have the sign that reads:
IN THIS HOUSE
WE BELIEVE:
BLACK LIVES MATTER
WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL
LOVE IS LOVE
KINDNESS IS EVERYTHING

We have that sign!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:y

Show me facts and numbers Thats What will convince me and logical adults not overhyped media saturation on a very few isolated incidents Or a couple of yardsigns

I am not going to google for you, but from what I have seen, the statistical evidence for more fatalities to blacks at the hands of police is weak, but for more harassment at the hands of police is strong. Also strong evidence of close DA-police cooperation making prosecution of police in general problematic, regardless of the race of the victim of alleged police violence, and strong evidence at least some departments have a culture of racism.

I won't put out a BLM yard sign myself, nor do I regularly repost their memes (in part for reasons above), but there is enough there that I am glad they have raised concerns, and at least some of the solutions they have proposed seem unassailable, regardless of how the data plays out on differential (unjustified) police violence by race. So I can't see being upset by BLM signs, nor do I see it as a war on cops.

Harassment eh that has nothing to do with the higher crime rate done in those areas :roll

Tell that to the activists under the blm banner They are totally anti cop

Finally how do You explain black cops with similar behavior to cops Overall....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously - don't clutter up the neighborhood with signs, it lowers property values.

I did ask our neighbor to take down her BLM sign when our house went on the market and she refused. At closing the buyer said "we know who to avoid in the neighborhood". The buyers and I are black. The neighbor is white.

Can you explain this to me PP? I am neither white nor black (Asian American) but don't really understand why you would both avoid the neighbor because of her sign. Because she is obstinate and disrespected your request or because her sign signals something to you as black people that is offensive?

I asked her to take down the sign because I thought it signaled to people looking at my home that there was a neighbor who is pushing a political agenda which might make potential buyers uncomfortable. The buyers mentioned the BLM sign at closing and made the comment that they would avoid the neigbot because they did not want to be caught up in her views.

If find that extremely hard to believe.

I believe it. I would not want to live next door to a house with signs in favor of a polarizing political view (whatever it may be). I want quiet, no drama, laid back people living next to me. If you're that crazy about something that you put a big ugly sign in your yard about it, no thanks. I certainly don't think it's silly to think lots of people would feel like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Black dude here.
My neighborhood in NW is steadily getting paler with each year and its all good.
A lot of the new white neighbors have rainbow flags and the Kindness Is Everything signs mentioned above and, yes, BLM signs.
For me its all good. Doesn't bother me that white people have a BLM sign and doesn't endear them toward me any more or less either.
At the end of the day it is what it is - a yard sign.
Still going to end up coming down to their actions that matter most when making my appraisal of them, not the aesthetics of their lawn.

I agree with this guy.

I am a black woman who has a sign and I love when I see white people with a sign. It tells me that they are safe and that my children are safe walking past their house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously - don't clutter up the neighborhood with signs, it lowers property values.

I did ask our neighbor to take down her BLM sign when our house went on the market and she refused. At closing the buyer said "we know who to avoid in the neighborhood". The buyers and I are black. The neighbor is white.

Can you explain this to me PP? I am neither white nor black (Asian American) but don't really understand why you would both avoid the neighbor because of her sign. Because she is obstinate and disrespected your request or because her sign signals something to you as black people that is offensive?

I asked her to take down the sign because I thought it signaled to people looking at my home that there was a neighbor who is pushing a political agenda which might make potential buyers uncomfortable. The buyers mentioned the BLM sign at closing and made the comment that they would avoid the neigbot because they did not want to be caught up in her views.

If find that extremely hard to believe.

I believe it. I would not want to live next door to a house with signs in favor of a polarizing political view (whatever it may be). I want quiet, no drama, laid back people living next to me. If you're that crazy about something that you put a big ugly sign in your yard about it, no thanks. I certainly don't think it's silly to think lots of people would feel like this.

As a black woman, I call bullshit on this. Clearly you are not "woke", but whatever.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Actions speak louder than signs. Why does everyone have to advertise their agenda? Are you showing off? Oh look at me and how liberal and diverse my views are. Aren't I just the greatest? These signs are so disingenuous and are meant to provoke. Stop already. If you truly believe in a cause then get off your rich ass and actually do something without the need for accolades.