Crazy to move from BCC cluster ES to Janney/Deal/Wilson for schools?

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Anonymous wrote:OP why aren't you considering private school?

OP here. Have you seen private school tuition costs? The idea of paying $36k+ per year for the next 10 years and then paying for college is not something that I would like to do. I know that there are some privates that are cheaper, but most of those are parochial schools and I honestly do not believe that parochial schools provide any better educational outcomes than good publics. In fact, many are probably worse considering teachers don't have to be certified, etc. So that leaves us with the "top" privates and they entry point there is generally about $36k and above. Paying $400k for education before even getting to college is like wow. And then, what if either DH or I are unemployed at some point. If we stretched things to make private work, a normal period of unemployment of 3-6 months would necessitate going back to public anyways. So while we are well off by nearly all measures, we are certainly not rich enough to attend the type of private school that would make the type of difference we are hoping for.

Could you not find wealthier grandparents to cover private tuition just for a fewvyears?

NP: But, what? "Hey, Mom, could you fork over a portion of your social security check so I can send my kids to a ridiculously overpriced private school?"

OP here. I am pretty sure that they were joking.

I think the points raised about governance in both DC and MD are very valid. The nuclear bomb in all of this is mandatory bussing, but I don't think either government is dumb enough to do that. So they will continue to chip away at the edges to make life miserable for everyone. This may sound cruel, but in DC at least due to gentrification and charter schools, the political force behind closing the achievement gap within DCPS is declining and every year that risk recedes a bti. In MCPS however it is rising, due to significant demographic changes in the eastern and northern parts of the county. On a 5 or 10 year time horizon I think situations will be very different and I am trying to incorporate this into my decision making.

I've been doing a bit more research and its a bit disconcerting that Janney is currently at 110% capacity. I need to get better classroom level data, but I am not sure that level of crowding helps us out much from our current situation.
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Janney.pdf

Although I do like CCDC, the commuting options are not great and Lafayette is just too big. So that leaves Murch as an alternative that some have suggested. I may need to consider that as another viable option.

But frankly, if schools are not going to be better in DCPS on the main issue of overcrowding, then I am not sure it would make a lot of sense to move.

I do not think the statement I bolded (re political forces in DC) is correct. DC demographics are changing, but it is going to be a long time before (if ever) the real center of gravity of DC politics shifts. Who is Bowser's base? Who propelled Grey over Fenty? Many of the newer DC residents are not as strongly vested in DC politics and, even where strongly interested, haven't and likely won't set up the same sort of political operation/machine that will lead to results on election day.

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Lafayette and Janney are the same size... Murch is only a few dozen less...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette and Janney are the same size... Murch is only a few dozen less...

Actually, Lafayette has 30 LESS kids than Janney this year. OP has some bizarre ideas in her head.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lafayette and Janney are the same size... Murch is only a few dozen less...

Actually, Lafayette has 30 LESS kids than Janney this year. OP has some bizarre ideas in her head.

That's what typically happens when avoiding blonde people becomes a life priority...

[Anonymous]

OP, I would tour the schools and not just rely on some report. Janney is big, but frankly, the class sizes are excellent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lafayette and Janney are the same size... Murch is only a few dozen less...

Actually, Lafayette has 30 LESS kids than Janney this year. OP has some bizarre ideas in her head.

That's what typically happens when avoiding blonde people becomes a life priority...

Avoiding blondies is easy. Just go to an ESOL-heavy school.

But OP doesn't like ESOL students eother.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why aren't you considering private school?

OP here. Have you seen private school tuition costs? The idea of paying $36k+ per year for the next 10 years and then paying for college is not something that I would like to do. I know that there are some privates that are cheaper, but most of those are parochial schools and I honestly do not believe that parochial schools provide any better educational outcomes than good publics. In fact, many are probably worse considering teachers don't have to be certified, etc. So that leaves us with the "top" privates and they entry point there is generally about $36k and above. Paying $400k for education before even getting to college is like wow. And then, what if either DH or I are unemployed at some point. If we stretched things to make private work, a normal period of unemployment of 3-6 months would necessitate going back to public anyways. So while we are well off by nearly all measures, we are certainly not rich enough to attend the type of private school that would make the type of difference we are hoping for.

Could you not find wealthier grandparents to cover private tuition just for a fewvyears?

NP: But, what? "Hey, Mom, could you fork over a portion of your social security check so I can send my kids to a ridiculously overpriced private school?"

OP here. I am pretty sure that they were joking.

I think the points raised about governance in both DC and MD are very valid. The nuclear bomb in all of this is mandatory bussing, but I don't think either government is dumb enough to do that. So they will continue to chip away at the edges to make life miserable for everyone. This may sound cruel, but in DC at least due to gentrification and charter schools, the political force behind closing the achievement gap within DCPS is declining and every year that risk recedes a bti. In MCPS however it is rising, due to significant demographic changes in the eastern and northern parts of the county. On a 5 or 10 year time horizon I think situations will be very different and I am trying to incorporate this into my decision making.

I've been doing a bit more research and its a bit disconcerting that Janney is currently at 110% capacity. I need to get better classroom level data, but I am not sure that level of crowding helps us out much from our current situation.
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Janney.pdf

Although I do like CCDC, the commuting options are not great and Lafayette is just too big. So that leaves Murch as an alternative that some have suggested. I may need to consider that as another viable option.

But frankly, if schools are not going to be better in DCPS on the main issue of overcrowding, then I am not sure it would make a lot of sense to move.

Geez OP just go private if you are that paranoid about our elected officials trying to "close the achievement gap" ie serve all students. You can sell your fancy Bethesda house, pocket the profit for private school tuition, and live in an apartment or buy something cheap in Hyattsville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why aren't you considering private school?

OP here. Have you seen private school tuition costs? The idea of paying $36k+ per year for the next 10 years and then paying for college is not something that I would like to do. I know that there are some privates that are cheaper, but most of those are parochial schools and I honestly do not believe that parochial schools provide any better educational outcomes than good publics. In fact, many are probably worse considering teachers don't have to be certified, etc. So that leaves us with the "top" privates and they entry point there is generally about $36k and above. Paying $400k for education before even getting to college is like wow. And then, what if either DH or I are unemployed at some point. If we stretched things to make private work, a normal period of unemployment of 3-6 months would necessitate going back to public anyways. So while we are well off by nearly all measures, we are certainly not rich enough to attend the type of private school that would make the type of difference we are hoping for.

Could you not find wealthier grandparents to cover private tuition just for a fewvyears?

NP: But, what? "Hey, Mom, could you fork over a portion of your social security check so I can send my kids to a ridiculously overpriced private school?"

OP here. I am pretty sure that they were joking.

I think the points raised about governance in both DC and MD are very valid. The nuclear bomb in all of this is mandatory bussing, but I don't think either government is dumb enough to do that. So they will continue to chip away at the edges to make life miserable for everyone. This may sound cruel, but in DC at least due to gentrification and charter schools, the political force behind closing the achievement gap within DCPS is declining and every year that risk recedes a bti. In MCPS however it is rising, due to significant demographic changes in the eastern and northern parts of the county. On a 5 or 10 year time horizon I think situations will be very different and I am trying to incorporate this into my decision making.

I've been doing a bit more research and its a bit disconcerting that Janney is currently at 110% capacity. I need to get better classroom level data, but I am not sure that level of crowding helps us out much from our current situation.
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Janney.pdf

Although I do like CCDC, the commuting options are not great and Lafayette is just too big. So that leaves Murch as an alternative that some have suggested. I may need to consider that as another viable option.

But frankly, if schools are not going to be better in DCPS on the main issue of overcrowding, then I am not sure it would make a lot of sense to move.

Geez OP just go private if you are that paranoid about our elected officials trying to "close the achievement gap" ie serve all students. You can sell your fancy Bethesda house, pocket the profit for private school tuition, and live in an apartment or buy something cheap in Hyattsville.

Not OP, but how do you define "serve all students?" If you define it as students are served so long as they are passing and getting a basic education, sure focus solely on those who are not. But, if you believe serving all students include helping students reach their full potential -- even if that is more than simply passing and basic competence -- then it is fair to question whether at least some elected leaders really care about serving all students.

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OP, the single biggest difference between DCPS and MCPS is class sizes. If that's the thing you care about, move. Everything else is basically the same.

[Anonymous]

I like Murch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnZm4GpacEA

Murch's new building will have increased capacity in 2018, and they changed the boundary effective this year, so it is one school where DCPS has actually addressed crowding. Of course that can change, but there is a decent cushion for a while.

And while Deal (an IB MYP school) has capacity issues, they divide each grade into 4 teams, so it feels like you are in a school of 120, except at lunch.

[Anonymous]

+1 re Murch and Deal. Both terrific schools!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette and Janney are the same size... Murch is only a few dozen less...

Actually, Lafayette has 30 LESS kids than Janney this year. OP has some bizarre ideas in her head.

That's what typically happens when avoiding blonde people becomes a life priority...

Hillary surrogate, her husband prefers all kinds and colors and ethnicities and flavors of women - just not her. Now stop it with the surrogates to lurk in the neighborhood. You know the place, it's where Chelsea went to school.

[Anonymous]

I have no idea what the PP is trying to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why aren't you considering private school?

OP here. Have you seen private school tuition costs? The idea of paying $36k+ per year for the next 10 years and then paying for college is not something that I would like to do. I know that there are some privates that are cheaper, but most of those are parochial schools and I honestly do not believe that parochial schools provide any better educational outcomes than good publics. In fact, many are probably worse considering teachers don't have to be certified, etc. So that leaves us with the "top" privates and they entry point there is generally about $36k and above. Paying $400k for education before even getting to college is like wow. And then, what if either DH or I are unemployed at some point. If we stretched things to make private work, a normal period of unemployment of 3-6 months would necessitate going back to public anyways. So while we are well off by nearly all measures, we are certainly not rich enough to attend the type of private school that would make the type of difference we are hoping for.

Could you not find wealthier grandparents to cover private tuition just for a fewvyears?

NP: But, what? "Hey, Mom, could you fork over a portion of your social security check so I can send my kids to a ridiculously overpriced private school?"

OP here. I am pretty sure that they were joking.

I think the points raised about governance in both DC and MD are very valid. The nuclear bomb in all of this is mandatory bussing, but I don't think either government is dumb enough to do that. So they will continue to chip away at the edges to make life miserable for everyone. This may sound cruel, but in DC at least due to gentrification and charter schools, the political force behind closing the achievement gap within DCPS is declining and every year that risk recedes a bti. In MCPS however it is rising, due to significant demographic changes in the eastern and northern parts of the county. On a 5 or 10 year time horizon I think situations will be very different and I am trying to incorporate this into my decision making.

I've been doing a bit more research and its a bit disconcerting that Janney is currently at 110% capacity. I need to get better classroom level data, but I am not sure that level of crowding helps us out much from our current situation.
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Janney.pdf

Although I do like CCDC, the commuting options are not great and Lafayette is just too big. So that leaves Murch as an alternative that some have suggested. I may need to consider that as another viable option.

But frankly, if schools are not going to be better in DCPS on the main issue of overcrowding, then I am not sure it would make a lot of sense to move.

Geez OP just go private if you are that paranoid about our elected officials trying to "close the achievement gap" ie serve all students. You can sell your fancy Bethesda house, pocket the profit for private school tuition, and live in an apartment or buy something cheap in Hyattsville.

+1 OP if you need racially diverse with no poor kids and small class sizes you need to head to private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why aren't you considering private school?

OP here. Have you seen private school tuition costs? The idea of paying $36k+ per year for the next 10 years and then paying for college is not something that I would like to do. I know that there are some privates that are cheaper, but most of those are parochial schools and I honestly do not believe that parochial schools provide any better educational outcomes than good publics. In fact, many are probably worse considering teachers don't have to be certified, etc. So that leaves us with the "top" privates and they entry point there is generally about $36k and above. Paying $400k for education before even getting to college is like wow. And then, what if either DH or I are unemployed at some point. If we stretched things to make private work, a normal period of unemployment of 3-6 months would necessitate going back to public anyways. So while we are well off by nearly all measures, we are certainly not rich enough to attend the type of private school that would make the type of difference we are hoping for.

Could you not find wealthier grandparents to cover private tuition just for a fewvyears?

NP: But, what? "Hey, Mom, could you fork over a portion of your social security check so I can send my kids to a ridiculously overpriced private school?"

OP here. I am pretty sure that they were joking.

I think the points raised about governance in both DC and MD are very valid. The nuclear bomb in all of this is mandatory bussing, but I don't think either government is dumb enough to do that. So they will continue to chip away at the edges to make life miserable for everyone. This may sound cruel, but in DC at least due to gentrification and charter schools, the political force behind closing the achievement gap within DCPS is declining and every year that risk recedes a bti. In MCPS however it is rising, due to significant demographic changes in the eastern and northern parts of the county. On a 5 or 10 year time horizon I think situations will be very different and I am trying to incorporate this into my decision making.

I've been doing a bit more research and its a bit disconcerting that Janney is currently at 110% capacity. I need to get better classroom level data, but I am not sure that level of crowding helps us out much from our current situation.
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Janney.pdf

Although I do like CCDC, the commuting options are not great and Lafayette is just too big. So that leaves Murch as an alternative that some have suggested. I may need to consider that as another viable option.

But frankly, if schools are not going to be better in DCPS on the main issue of overcrowding, then I am not sure it would make a lot of sense to move.

Geez OP just go private if you are that paranoid about our elected officials trying to "close the achievement gap" ie serve all students. You can sell your fancy Bethesda house, pocket the profit for private school tuition, and live in an apartment or buy something cheap in Hyattsville.

+1 OP if you need racially diverse with no poor kids and small class sizes you need to head to private school.

Also, no blondes or foreigners.

I'd heartily recommend homeschooling.