Southern states should celebrate northern soldiers' contribution to the liberation of enslaved people, the abolition of a brutal and dehumanizing and anti-democratic institution, and the preservation of the Union. It's interesting that you don't seem to include the descendants of enslaved people in your concept of the south. |
And here we have an example of the narrow focus of liberalism. What I object to is spending money on feel-good gestures, while simultaneously and shamelessly taking away the scholarships of poor black inner-city students. What makes more sense? Removing street signs and renaming them because - racism - or giving poor children the ability of getting out of schools that don't serve them and into environments where learning is prized, and they can thrive, grow, and break the poverty cycle? The removal of street signs and statues helps rich white people feel good about themselves, but does nothing to help those individuals. It amounts to a shameless head pat. |
That argument is the signal that you have no argument. Even an idiot knows that Washington and Jefferson are very different than Davis and Lee. |
So do you also applaud the Islamic state terrorists who are blowing up statues of roman emperors like Julius Caesar right now? The Romans (including Julius) enslaved and killed millions. Or is that different somehow? |
So should native Americans be forbidden from taking pride in their pre-Colombian history, during which time they practiced slavery? Or Italians in their roman history history (they had slaves as well of course)? Or is it that you just don't like southerners? |
Last time I checked, Julius Caesar wasn't responsible for getting hundreds of thousands of Americans killed. It is you who is more in line with glorifying ISIS, since they are a rebel group that instigated civil war in order to oppress people, just like the CSA did. |
Well I object to "feel good" gestures like trying to repeal Obamacare, as I don't think that doesn't actually helps anyone, I object to "feel good" measures prohibiting gay marriage or allowing caterers to deny service to gays as that DEFINITELY doesn't help anyone, I object to "feel good" measures like propping up unsustainable trillion-dollar war policies in the middle east because that sure hasn't helped anyone, I object to "feel good" measures like slashing taxes and government budgets because it sure doesn't help anyone to have crumbling infrastructure, polluted air and water, contaminated food and unsafe products, I object to "feel good" measures like "states rights" because a state jurisdictional boundary can't stop polluted air from blowing across the border, and can't stop the flow of pollution in rivers from the upstream state (laws of physics and common sense of "shit flows downhill" that you right wingers seem to think can be trumped by idiotic ideology)... The ENTIRE GOP/Tea Party platform is about "shameless head pats." |
What did those southern soldiers really contribute in the long run? They lost a war and brought about the ruination of their states. Apparently the concept of winning the battles but losing the war is lost on you. |
People show their intolerance for bigots and racists and you go running off screaming "Help! I'm being oppressed by political correctness!" Ludicrous and pathetic. |
Because southerners are proud to be Americans, and those soldiers kept America together. |
Somehow, we have lived with the name of this road for nearly 100 years. A lot of people here are showing their intolerance for tolerance. Yep - totally being Politically Correct at any cost. |
Whoa there Hoss, you got that TOTALLY BACKASSWARD! Southerners LEFT the United States and TORE IT APART. Did you hit your head and forget about that whole "secession" thing? |
The name never bothered me that much. I will have to say when friends from NY (where I grew up) came to visit they raised the inevitable "WTF?" question with regards to the name. I just said "Welcome to the South!" |
Yes, because I'm sure Germany has so many roads and buildings named after Hitler or other Third Reich top officials that still remain today. Jefferson Davis = treason. Pure and simple. |
I was speaking of those Northern Soldiers. Why would a patriotic southerner not appreciate that in the end they are Americans because of the North? |