Austistic teen kicked off plane.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dude, I pack snacks for four kids! I could parent just one five year old in my sleep while also dreaming of Ryan Gosling. Hey girl, where's my trophy?

We have four kids - only the youngest is special needs. Other ones are older and fine.

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Anonymous wrote:If its to the point that your chid will scratch others and you most likely cant hold her back, then dont go on a plane

Or you could find some compassion. Honestly, this thread is sickening. Such an easy solution for this girl and you're raking her mom through the coals. For what? We have lost our humanity when people can't see that sometimes you think outside the box and be decent human beings.

There is a difference from having compassion and violent behavior. Mom cannot control the tantrums and child is to big to carry or reasonably restrain. If child cannot control her behavior, then you don't travel. We went through a rough period of two years where we could not take our child out to eat, travel - flight or hotel, and spent every day in services. You deal. Either it gets better or you don't travel out of safety for everyone.

But the obvious point is that the child was actually controlled and there was no violent behavior. All this "what if" is just that. The kid was calm and never violent. And yet the plane still made an "emergency" landing.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the airline. A passenger was unstable and could have become violent. The SN parents here would still be defending the mom even if the girl managed to crash the airplane

[Anonymous]

Yup, this is why as a parent of an autistic child I limit where I take him. I don't expect people to understand, sympathize or even try. People who don't have an autistic or special needs kid just have no idea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If its to the point that your chid will scratch others and you most likely cant hold her back, then dont go on a plane

Or you could find some compassion. Honestly, this thread is sickening. Such an easy solution for this girl and you're raking her mom through the coals. For what? We have lost our humanity when people can't see that sometimes you think outside the box and be decent human beings.

There is a difference from having compassion and violent behavior. Mom cannot control the tantrums and child is to big to carry or reasonably restrain. If child cannot control her behavior, then you don't travel. We went through a rough period of two years where we could not take our child out to eat, travel - flight or hotel, and spent every day in services. You deal. Either it gets better or you don't travel out of safety for everyone.

But the obvious point is that the child was actually controlled and there was no violent behavior. All this "what if" is just that. The kid was calm and never violent. And yet the plane still made an "emergency" landing.

Because you can't make threats to a flight attendant about potential uncontrolled violence. My father was once in a security line at an airport when the guy behind him made some sort of joke about a bomb and was whisked away by security. And that was pre-9/11!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If its to the point that your chid will scratch others and you most likely cant hold her back, then dont go on a plane

Or you could find some compassion. Honestly, this thread is sickening. Such an easy solution for this girl and you're raking her mom through the coals. For what? We have lost our humanity when people can't see that sometimes you think outside the box and be decent human beings.

There is a difference from having compassion and violent behavior. Mom cannot control the tantrums and child is to big to carry or reasonably restrain. If child cannot control her behavior, then you don't travel. We went through a rough period of two years where we could not take our child out to eat, travel - flight or hotel, and spent every day in services. You deal. Either it gets better or you don't travel out of safety for everyone.

But the obvious point is that the child was actually controlled and there was no violent behavior. All this "what if" is just that. The kid was calm and never violent. And yet the plane still made an "emergency" landing.

Because you can't make threats to a flight attendant about potential uncontrolled violence. My father was once in a security line at an airport when the guy behind him made some sort of joke about a bomb and was whisked away by security. And that was pre-9/11!

The SN parents will never understand this. If it's less than carte blanche they won't even try

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If its to the point that your chid will scratch others and you most likely cant hold her back, then dont go on a plane

Or you could find some compassion. Honestly, this thread is sickening. Such an easy solution for this girl and you're raking her mom through the coals. For what? We have lost our humanity when people can't see that sometimes you think outside the box and be decent human beings.

There is a difference from having compassion and violent behavior. Mom cannot control the tantrums and child is to big to carry or reasonably restrain. If child cannot control her behavior, then you don't travel. We went through a rough period of two years where we could not take our child out to eat, travel - flight or hotel, and spent every day in services. You deal. Either it gets better or you don't travel out of safety for everyone.

But the obvious point is that the child was actually controlled and there was no violent behavior. All this "what if" is just that. The kid was calm and never violent. And yet the plane still made an "emergency" landing.

Because you can't make threats to a flight attendant about potential uncontrolled violence. My father was once in a security line at an airport when the guy behind him made some sort of joke about a bomb and was whisked away by security. And that was pre-9/11!

The SN parents will never understand this. If it's less than carte blanche they won't even try

It was a statement not a threat. It's like saying if I don't get some orange juice my child will have a diabetic episode. She said if I don't get some warm food my daughter will have an episode. No difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Utterly insane. How hard is it to heat up a sandwich for a girl who might have issues without it? The other passengers on the plane said at no time did the girl get upset, mom was trying to avoid the meltdown, and the first class flight attendant was an ass. In one video you could hear other passengers saying to leave them alone.

The attendant has rules to follow or she could lose her job. I am so sick of people with children, irrespective of SN, age, etc., think the rest of us have to to tiptoe around so your snowflakes aren't inconvenienced or they throw their "developmentally appropriate" tantrums. The mother knew her kid wanted hot food and she should have fed her ay a restaurant in the airport.

Kid free flights are the answer.

I agree with this completely. Every other kid is "SN" these days so now every time an entitled parents wants something specific for that child everyone has to bow and fetch it? Look, you have the kid you have and while it doesn't hurt to be flexible - everybody be flexible I mean - to demand that the airline do something specific for you so your kid doesn't freak out is nothing short of obnoxious. It is your job to manage your child, regardless of situation, and "manage" doesn't mean "get others to provide what I want."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If its to the point that your chid will scratch others and you most likely cant hold her back, then dont go on a plane

Or you could find some compassion. Honestly, this thread is sickening. Such an easy solution for this girl and you're raking her mom through the coals. For what? We have lost our humanity when people can't see that sometimes you think outside the box and be decent human beings.

There is a difference from having compassion and violent behavior. Mom cannot control the tantrums and child is to big to carry or reasonably restrain. If child cannot control her behavior, then you don't travel. We went through a rough period of two years where we could not take our child out to eat, travel - flight or hotel, and spent every day in services. You deal. Either it gets better or you don't travel out of safety for everyone.

But the obvious point is that the child was actually controlled and there was no violent behavior. All this "what if" is just that. The kid was calm and never violent. And yet the plane still made an "emergency" landing.

Because you can't make threats to a flight attendant about potential uncontrolled violence. My father was once in a security line at an airport when the guy behind him made some sort of joke about a bomb and was whisked away by security. And that was pre-9/11!

The SN parents will never understand this. If it's less than carte blanche they won't even try

It was a statement not a threat. It's like saying if I don't get some orange juice my child will have a diabetic episode. She said if I don't get some warm food my daughter will have an episode. No difference.

They're similar, clearly, but I think the difference is that the diabetic episode is a medical emergency whereas the other is a violent emergency. Only the second presents the possibility of someone doing harm to another passenger, and maybe not able to be prevented from doing so. I don't think the issue was the food, exactly, it seems like the problem was that the mom framed the issue in terms of "if you don't do X, a violent outcome is likely". That seems like something an airline likely has to take pretty seriously.

[Anonymous]

Also, pregnant ladies do not deserve the handicapped seats on metro, and f*ck those deadly peanut allergy kids. If my little Larla wants a peanut butter cup, you just better have you kid carry an epi pen while at school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yup, this is why as a parent of an autistic child I limit where I take him. I don't expect people to understand, sympathize or even try. People who don't have an autistic or special needs kid just have no idea.

So you are creating a lousy life for your kid so other spoiled adults aren't bothered by him? Your poor child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, this is why as a parent of an autistic child I limit where I take him. I don't expect people to understand, sympathize or even try. People who don't have an autistic or special needs kid just have no idea.

So you are creating a lousy life for your kid so other spoiled adults aren't bothered by him? Your poor child.

No, PP sounds smart and realistic.

[Anonymous]

So much ignorance and ugliness towards kids with autism in this thread. That is really sad in 2015. It is interesting to see what people are really thinking about my child, I guess I'd rather know than assume most people are understanding and know something about autism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, this is why as a parent of an autistic child I limit where I take him. I don't expect people to understand, sympathize or even try. People who don't have an autistic or special needs kid just have no idea.

So you are creating a lousy life for your kid so other spoiled adults aren't bothered by him? Your poor child.

PP. you are the poor adult who judges the parenting methods of another and determines a child will have a lousy life. Autistic children are literally on a spectrum, and each parent can determine what the child needs and any accordingly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If its to the point that your chid will scratch others and you most likely cant hold her back, then dont go on a plane

Or you could find some compassion. Honestly, this thread is sickening. Such an easy solution for this girl and you're raking her mom through the coals. For what? We have lost our humanity when people can't see that sometimes you think outside the box and be decent human beings.

There is a difference from having compassion and violent behavior. Mom cannot control the tantrums and child is to big to carry or reasonably restrain. If child cannot control her behavior, then you don't travel. We went through a rough period of two years where we could not take our child out to eat, travel - flight or hotel, and spent every day in services. You deal. Either it gets better or you don't travel out of safety for everyone.

But the obvious point is that the child was actually controlled and there was no violent behavior. All this "what if" is just that. The kid was calm and never violent. And yet the plane still made an "emergency" landing.

Because you can't make threats to a flight attendant about potential uncontrolled violence. My father was once in a security line at an airport when the guy behind him made some sort of joke about a bomb and was whisked away by security. And that was pre-9/11!

The SN parents will never understand this. If it's less than carte blanche they won't even try

It was a statement not a threat. It's like saying if I don't get some orange juice my child will have a diabetic episode. She said if I don't get some warm food my daughter will have an episode. No difference.

They're similar, clearly, but I think the difference is that the diabetic episode is a medical emergency whereas the other is a violent emergency. Only the second presents the possibility of someone doing harm to another passenger, and maybe not able to be prevented from doing so. I don't think the issue was the food, exactly, it seems like the problem was that the mom framed the issue in terms of "if you don't do X, a violent outcome is likely". That seems like something an airline likely has to take pretty seriously.

You have obviously never seen somebody in a full blown diabetic episode. It can be violent. A sandwich is no different than orange juice. The fact is people believe better parenting can fix autism. People want to ban kids from flight, ban autistic kids, ... It is no different than say... too bad, I guess people in wheel chairs can no longer fly. If is plain and simple discrimination.