S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:Get a grip, I'm not dancing around any subject. I have answered every question asked truthfully, sorry it is not to your satisfaction. Iam against abortion because it is against my religious beliefs. That's a law legislated by the God I believe in. Unless it is for a medical reason, abortion is forbidden in Islam. But muslims still do it, that's where the freedom of choice comes in. Allah is the only Judge so on this life, you are free to do whatever you want, you won't answer to me or any other human being, you have to answer to Him and Him only, so do as you please. As far as the example of your cat, maybe you consider yourself on the same reasoning level than a cat , again your choice. I choose to believe that human beings are superior to animals since they have the ability to reason so how your cat behaves is irrelevant ...

What about gays?

What do you mean?

You never addressed two topics, which were brought up in other posts:
1. What if your daughter refused to cover?
2. What if your child outed him/herself?


How do you handle those CHOICES?

Never saw those questions.
1- The first time I decided to wear the hijab, I was 25 years old, it was a choice I made freely after researching the Hijab for about a year. My mother and my sister do not wear the hijab, so that would also be my daughter's choice.
2- If my child outed him/herself, I would tell him/her that homosexuality is a sin in Islam, I would advise him/her to control those urges and I will pray for him/her, that is all I can do really

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amish women cover their hair too -
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Why no backlash against their culture?

simple folk

no Amish version of Hamas . . . They just love making their furniture and homemade foods and selling them to the "city folk."

The amish hair covering looks "light", airy, innocuous and non-threatening-the niquab (sp?) looks dark, scary, suspicious and threatening-to me. When I see an Amish woman and I think-"they are Amish" I thinkk perhaps they are "old fashioned", "simple", a "seamstress or farmer" etc...When I see a woman with her head and entire face covered in a black veil/niquab and I think "terrorist"-and if I see her with kids I think her husband is likely a terrorist too....sorry but that is what I think/feel. Perhaps 9/11 traumatized me (I was at the WTC right after the planes hit)-no offense to anyone. I guess I would feel threatened if someone walked into a bank wearing a ski mask too-just sayin.....

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amish women cover their hair too -
[/img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4EMnVg5n6Co/TYknZ0Vq_vI/AAAAAAAAAWg/2G-y34RG85o/s400/amish682.jpg

Why no backlash against their culture?

simple folk

no Amish version of Hamas . . . They just love making their furniture and homemade foods and selling them to the "city folk."

The amish hair covering looks "light", airy, innocuous and non-threatening-the niquab (sp?) looks dark, scary, suspicious and threatening-to me. When I see an Amish woman and I think-"they are Amish" I thinkk perhaps they are "old fashioned", "simple", a "seamstress or farmer" etc...When I see a woman with her head and entire face covered in a black veil/niquab and I think "terrorist"-and if I see her with kids I think her husband is likely a terrorist too....sorry but that is what I think/feel. Perhaps 9/11 traumatized me (I was at the WTC right after the planes hit)-no offense to anyone. I guess I would feel threatened if someone walked into a bank wearing a ski mask too-just sayin.....

That is really sad, I would love for a niqabi to give you a hug!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote: As far as the example of your cat, maybe you consider yourself on the same reasoning level than a cat , again your choice. I choose to believe that human beings are superior to animals since they have the ability to reason so how your cat behaves is irrelevant ...

quite the opposite

I find that people NOT brainwashed by religion have superior reasoning skills over those who are.

Sit on that a while . . .

What happened to you that you are so nasty?

You reject religion and "believe" you have decent reasoning skills but it sure hasn't made you a decent person.

Sit on that a while...prickly ain't it?

[Anonymous]

Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amish women cover their hair too -
[/img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4EMnVg5n6Co/TYknZ0Vq_vI/AAAAAAAAAWg/2G-y34RG85o/s400/amish682.jpg

Why no backlash against their culture?

simple folk

no Amish version of Hamas . . . They just love making their furniture and homemade foods and selling them to the "city folk."

The amish hair covering looks "light", airy, innocuous and non-threatening-the niquab (sp?) looks dark, scary, suspicious and threatening-to me. When I see an Amish woman and I think-"they are Amish" I thinkk perhaps they are "old fashioned", "simple", a "seamstress or farmer" etc...When I see a woman with her head and entire face covered in a black veil/niquab and I think "terrorist"-and if I see her with kids I think her husband is likely a terrorist too....sorry but that is what I think/feel. Perhaps 9/11 traumatized me (I was at the WTC right after the planes hit)-no offense to anyone. I guess I would feel threatened if someone walked into a bank wearing a ski mask too-just sayin.....

That is really sad, I would love for a niqabi to give you a hug!

Thanks but NO THANKS!

[Anonymous]

Never saw those questions.
1- The first time I decided to wear the hijab, I was 25 years old, it was a choice I made freely after researching the Hijab for about a year. My mother and my sister do not wear the hijab, so that would also be my daughter's choice.
2- If my child outed him/herself, I would tell him/her that homosexuality is a sin in Islam, I would advise him/her to control those urges and I will pray for him/her, that is all I can do really

By "advising" him/her to control the urges, you're expecting your child to remain celibate? to deny who s/he really is? to prevent him/her from living a happy life?

wow . . .

I don't think you recognize the hypocrisy in that statement.

How sad - and how tragic for any child to be born into such a hostile and ignorant environment!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote: As far as the example of your cat, maybe you consider yourself on the same reasoning level than a cat , again your choice. I choose to believe that human beings are superior to animals since they have the ability to reason so how your cat behaves is irrelevant ...

quite the opposite

I find that people NOT brainwashed by religion have superior reasoning skills over those who are.

Sit on that a while . . .

What happened to you that you are so nasty?

You reject religion and "believe" you have decent reasoning skills but it sure hasn't made you a decent person.

Sit on that a while...prickly ain't it?

no prickly at all
You're a small-minded woman.

I love my children and would encourage them to be independent, free thinkers. I would embrace my child's homosexuality and wish him/her a happy life - perhaps filled with children! I'd be upset if their world were ruled by a few quotes from ancient men in a "inspirational" text.

The world is big; yours is small. And you can't see that b/c you refuse to step out of this weird bubble you've created for yourself.

You're an ugly individual, lady - and the reason many homosexuals descend into states of depression often leading to suicide. I hope you don't have children - ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amish women cover their hair too -


Why no backlash against their culture?

Amish culture is a lot less restrictive to women then Islam. They don't cover their faces. Women may go out in public without men. They do dress their girls in dresses and head coverings, but they don't require them to cover their legs in the summer. Women work and provide important income to their farms and businesses.

Young women are allowed to choose to be Amish or not. Young men and young women both are encouraged to explore the outside world and are allowed to chose baptism or not. They are allowed to leave the community. No one is allowed to leave Islam.

Amish are pacifists. They harm no one. They forgive those that harm them.

They do not seek to convert others. No Amish person would say that an Amish flag should fly over the White House.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.

Muslima is a huge troll.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Never saw those questions.
1- The first time I decided to wear the hijab, I was 25 years old, it was a choice I made freely after researching the Hijab for about a year. My mother and my sister do not wear the hijab, so that would also be my daughter's choice.
2- If my child outed him/herself, I would tell him/her that homosexuality is a sin in Islam, I would advise him/her to control those urges and I will pray for him/her, that is all I can do really

By "advising" him/her to control the urges, you're expecting your child to remain celibate? to deny who s/he really is? to prevent him/her from living a happy life?

wow . . .

I don't think you recognize the hypocrisy in that statement.

How sad - and how tragic for any child to be born into such a hostile and ignorant environment!

Yes really sad indeed. Fortunately for us , we are free to raise our children the way we choose. I will advise my child the way I choose and in the end the choice will be his/hers.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote: As far as the example of your cat, maybe you consider yourself on the same reasoning level than a cat , again your choice. I choose to believe that human beings are superior to animals since they have the ability to reason so how your cat behaves is irrelevant ...

quite the opposite

I find that people NOT brainwashed by religion have superior reasoning skills over those who are.

Sit on that a while . . .

What happened to you that you are so nasty?

You reject religion and "believe" you have decent reasoning skills but it sure hasn't made you a decent person.

Sit on that a while...prickly ain't it?

no prickly at all
You're a small-minded woman.

I love my children and would encourage them to be independent, free thinkers. I would embrace my child's homosexuality and wish him/her a happy life - perhaps filled with children! I'd be upset if their world were ruled by a few quotes from ancient men in a "inspirational" text.

The world is big; yours is small. And you can't see that b/c you refuse to step out of this weird bubble you've created for yourself.

You're an ugly individual, lady - and the reason many homosexuals descend into states of depression often leading to suicide. I hope you don't have children - ever.

Why are you calling her/him an ugly individual and hope her/him never have children, woow! Yeh, your world is really "big".......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.

Muslima is a huge troll.

+1.

I think she's an "accidental" troll. She's on a one-woman mission to rehabilitate the image of Islam, but little does she know she's sort of making things worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.

Muslima is a huge troll.

+1.

I think she's an "accidental" troll. She's on a one-woman mission to rehabilitate the image of Islam, but little does she know she's sort of making things worse.

I disagree. I don't think she's trying to rehabilitate anything, just trying to explain her view of it. Better, worse, none of the above.

Strictly following any Abrahamic religion looks pretty much the same. There "are" liberal Muslims (I'm married to one) but nowhere near the numbers like Reform Jews or more modern denominations of Christianity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.

Muslima is a huge troll.

+1.

I think she's an "accidental" troll. She's on a one-woman mission to rehabilitate the image of Islam, but little does she know she's sort of making things worse.

She's just another brainwashed sheeple-or musleeple...scary there are so many like her