S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I shared this video with a friend who said:

So...you want to like being in a free society like the UK, but you don't want to give up the symbol of repression and terrorism you have left behind?

I think that says it all.

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lol @ the comment about the niqab "differentiating" her from the rest!

Muslima wrote:

why is that funny?

Then again, 8 Muslim Women have been head of state in Muslim countries while America is still waiting for its first female president in 2014.... the idea that there is even a discussion in the US that Hilary Clinton may be problematic for the office merely because she is a woman is a sign of how backward US politics is but hey, here in America women are "FREE", they wear bikinis and miniskirts, talk about messed up priorities.... But what do I know, Muslim women are oppressed

How did Kubra Nurzai help Afghani women?

And Egypt is definitely female-friendly b/c Rawya Ateya made a dent in the 50s.

I could go on, but I don't see the need to.

figureheads - They didn't create big waves of change for women.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I shared this video with a friend who said:

So...you want to like being in a free society like the UK, but you don't want to give up the symbol of repression and terrorism you have left behind?

I think that says it all.

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lol @ the comment about the niqab "differentiating" her from the rest!

Muslima wrote:

why is that funny?

Then again, 8 Muslim Women have been head of state in Muslim countries while America is still waiting for its first female president in 2014.... the idea that there is even a discussion in the US that Hilary Clinton may be problematic for the office merely because she is a woman is a sign of how backward US politics is but hey, here in America women are "FREE", they wear bikinis and miniskirts, talk about messed up priorities.... But what do I know, Muslim women are oppressed

btw

I love how you equate women's equality in the US with bikinis and miniskirts.

That really does illustrate where you're coming from, dear.

Give it up to Allah, my friend! He's the only one on your side right now.

[Muslima]

Well, you're the one equating burqas to oppression.......Haven't you heard? Allah is enough for me As Muslim women, we have been liberated from this silent bondage. We don't need society's standard of beauty or fashion, to define our worth. We don't need to become just like men to be honored, and we don't need to wait for a prince to save or complete us. Our worth, our honor, our salvation, and our completion lie not in the slave. But, in the Lord of the slave. Praise be to Allah, the cherisher and sustainer of the worlds ~

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:Well, you're the one equating burqas to oppression.......Haven't you heard? Allah is enough for me As Muslim women, we have been liberated from this silent bondage. We don't need society's standard of beauty or fashion, to define our worth. We don't need to become just like men to be honored, and we don't need to wait for a prince to save or complete us. Our worth, our honor, our salvation, and our completion lie not in the slave. But, in the Lord of the slave. Praise be to Allah, the cherisher and sustainer of the worlds ~

You don't get it... it's like for some of you people there are only bikinis and burqas and nothing in between. Muslima, you are just as bad as the people on here who believe Muslim women are "brainwashed." I don't dress to please people... I dress in practical, reasonably attractive clothes because I might as well. I believe that God actually loves beauty- look at all the flowers, the animals, all the beautiful creation surrounding us. I don't think it upsets God if I wear a dress with flowers on it that mimics his creation. God doesn't care if your hair shows, he cares about your heart.

But since we're talking about it... Islam appears to be a highly particular religion. Where in nature do we see that God has been so particular in his creation? Look around you- the tremendous variety of trees, of flowers, animals, people. God loves variety, and the idea that he came up with these incredibly specific rules for every aspect of existence strikes me personally as bizarre.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:Well, you're the one equating burqas to oppression.......Haven't you heard? Allah is enough for me As Muslim women, we have been liberated from this silent bondage. We don't need society's standard of beauty or fashion, to define our worth. We don't need to become just like men to be honored, and we don't need to wait for a prince to save or complete us. Our worth, our honor, our salvation, and our completion lie not in the slave. But, in the Lord of the slave. Praise be to Allah, the cherisher and sustainer of the worlds ~

You don't get it... it's like for some of you people there are only bikinis and burqas and nothing in between. Muslima, you are just as bad as the people on here who believe Muslim women are "brainwashed." I don't dress to please people... I dress in practical, reasonably attractive clothes because I might as well. I believe that God actually loves beauty- look at all the flowers, the animals, all the beautiful creation surrounding us. I don't think it upsets God if I wear a dress with flowers on it that mimics his creation. God doesn't care if your hair shows, he cares about your heart.

But since we're talking about it... Islam appears to be a highly particular religion. Where in nature do we see that God has been so particular in his creation? Look around you- the tremendous variety of trees, of flowers, animals, people. God loves variety, and the idea that he came up with these incredibly specific rules for every aspect of existence strikes me personally as bizarre.

I don't understand the beauty comments. The Prophet (pbuh) has said that Allah is beautiful and He loves beauty. It is for this that the whole of Allah's creation has been designed and created according to the highest heavenly standard of splendor and order impossible to be ever emulated by anyone. According to Ibn al-'Arabi, who epitomized the Sufi speculative ontological thought, the divine beauty through which God is named "Beautiful", and by which He described Himself as loving beauty, is in all things. There is nothing in existence but beauty, for God created the cosmos only in His image, that is, in the image of His infinite beauty. Hence all cosmos with all its objects and events is beautiful. Even in the Quran we are told : "It is Allah Who has made for you the earth as a resting place, and the sky as a canopy, and has given you shape - and made your shapes beautiful -, and has provided for you Sustenance..." (Gafir 40:64) - Your definition of beauty must be different than mine, what they say is true "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

By the way I was responding to the rhetoric "Muslim women are veiled and oppressed" and was being sarcastic about the miniskirts & bikini comments. I do not believe that all women who dont wear a hijab dress to please people, I used to be one of these women, and lots of women in my family do not wear the hijab. And Yes God loves variety, that is why He created us this way, white, black, yellow, ect. But if you do believe in God, why would you think He would just create us and let us be in this world without any Guidance at all? Everything that is created in this world comes with a user guide that answers all of your questions. When you buy a new product, the first thing you do is read the user guide. Why would the human being be any different? Muslims believe their user guide is the Quran, it tells us everything we need to know to survive in this world.Now the fact that the rules of Islam strike you as bizarre is perfectly normal. The prophet Muhammad saw said " Islam began strange, and it will become strange again just like it was at the beginning, so blessed are the strangers.” so I totally get why it would look strange to someone who is not Muslim & to be fair a lot of Non-muslims practices, their view of life ect are extremely strange & bizarre to me...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:Well, you're the one equating burqas to oppression.......Haven't you heard? Allah is enough for me As Muslim women, we have been liberated from this silent bondage. We don't need society's standard of beauty or fashion, to define our worth. We don't need to become just like men to be honored, and we don't need to wait for a prince to save or complete us. Our worth, our honor, our salvation, and our completion lie not in the slave. But, in the Lord of the slave. Praise be to Allah, the cherisher and sustainer of the worlds ~

You don't get it... it's like for some of you people there are only bikinis and burqas and nothing in between. Muslima, you are just as bad as the people on here who believe Muslim women are "brainwashed." I don't dress to please people... I dress in practical, reasonably attractive clothes because I might as well. I believe that God actually loves beauty- look at all the flowers, the animals, all the beautiful creation surrounding us. I don't think it upsets God if I wear a dress with flowers on it that mimics his creation. God doesn't care if your hair shows, he cares about your heart.

But since we're talking about it... Islam appears to be a highly particular religion. Where in nature do we see that God has been so particular in his creation? Look around you- the tremendous variety of trees, of flowers, animals, people. God loves variety, and the idea that he came up with these incredibly specific rules for every aspect of existence strikes me personally as bizarre.

+1-What people do not realize is that some idiot (klikely a man) wrote the Q'uran some thousands of years ago in order to make up some "rules"-likely rules that would benefit him. It is all a croc of doody if you ask me. The guy who wrote it also must have been a mentally dranged pedophile rapist murderer since that is how many of "his" followers behave. I do not honestly think God condones such behavior-perhaps the author of the Q'uran is the spawn of Satan!

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

By the way I was responding to the rhetoric "Muslim women are veiled and oppressed" and was being sarcastic about the miniskirts & bikini comments. I do not believe that all women who dont wear a hijab dress to please people, I used to be one of these women, and lots of women in my family do not wear the hijab. And Yes God loves variety, that is why He created us this way, white, black, yellow, ect. But if you do believe in God, why would you think He would just create us and let us be in this world without any Guidance at all? Everything that is created in this world comes with a user guide that answers all of your questions. When you buy a new product, the first thing you do is read the user guide. Why would the human being be any different? Muslims believe their user guide is the Quran, it tells us everything we need to know to survive in this world.Now the fact that the rules of Islam strike you as bizarre is perfectly normal. The prophet Muhammad saw said " Islam began strange, and it will become strange again just like it was at the beginning, so blessed are the strangers.” so I totally get why it would look strange to someone who is not Muslim & to be fair a lot of Non-muslims practices, their view of life ect are extremely strange & bizarre to me...

My life is not a toaster, and God respects me enough to figure out most issues with the help of my conscience.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

By the way I was responding to the rhetoric "Muslim women are veiled and oppressed" and was being sarcastic about the miniskirts & bikini comments. I do not believe that all women who dont wear a hijab dress to please people, I used to be one of these women, and lots of women in my family do not wear the hijab. And Yes God loves variety, that is why He created us this way, white, black, yellow, ect. But if you do believe in God, why would you think He would just create us and let us be in this world without any Guidance at all? Everything that is created in this world comes with a user guide that answers all of your questions. When you buy a new product, the first thing you do is read the user guide. Why would the human being be any different? Muslims believe their user guide is the Quran, it tells us everything we need to know to survive in this world.Now the fact that the rules of Islam strike you as bizarre is perfectly normal. The prophet Muhammad saw said " Islam began strange, and it will become strange again just like it was at the beginning, so blessed are the strangers.” so I totally get why it would look strange to someone who is not Muslim & to be fair a lot of Non-muslims practices, their view of life ect are extremely strange & bizarre to me...

My life is not a toaster, and God respects me enough to figure out most issues with the help of my conscience.

Of course you use your brain to reason, but if you do believe in God & follow a religion, you have a book that should be your guide. If you believe you are enough to guide yourself through life, good for you, I leave all of my affairs to God and ask Him to guide me on a daily basis. It is a choice ~

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

By the way I was responding to the rhetoric "Muslim women are veiled and oppressed" and was being sarcastic about the miniskirts & bikini comments. I do not believe that all women who dont wear a hijab dress to please people, I used to be one of these women, and lots of women in my family do not wear the hijab. And Yes God loves variety, that is why He created us this way, white, black, yellow, ect. But if you do believe in God, why would you think He would just create us and let us be in this world without any Guidance at all? Everything that is created in this world comes with a user guide that answers all of your questions. When you buy a new product, the first thing you do is read the user guide. Why would the human being be any different? Muslims believe their user guide is the Quran, it tells us everything we need to know to survive in this world.Now the fact that the rules of Islam strike you as bizarre is perfectly normal. The prophet Muhammad saw said " Islam began strange, and it will become strange again just like it was at the beginning, so blessed are the strangers.” so I totally get why it would look strange to someone who is not Muslim & to be fair a lot of Non-muslims practices, their view of life ect are extremely strange & bizarre to me...

My life is not a toaster, and God respects me enough to figure out most issues with the help of my conscience.

Of course you use your brain to reason, but if you do believe in God & follow a religion, you have a book that should be your guide. If you believe you are enough to guide yourself through life, good for you, I leave all of my affairs to God and ask Him to guide me on a daily basis. It is a choice ~

Its more of a copout than a choice.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:
Of course you use your brain to reason, but if you do believe in God & follow a religion, you have a book that should be your guide. If you believe you are enough to guide yourself through life, good for you, I leave all of my affairs to God and ask Him to guide me on a daily basis. It is a choice ~

There is a difference between a guide and an instruction manual. God may guide my path, that doesn't mean that I need specific instructions on my cleanliness, usury laws, etc. There are so many obvious reasons for this, one of them being that the technology and economics and all kinds of different things were completely different. What worked yesterday may not work today or tomorrow. The most important aspects of life- how we treat one another and ourselves, are the same, but no, I don't need a guide on every trivial issue in life. I have something better- a relationship. God is so much bigger and better than just a book and set of laws. I pray one day that you understand this.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:
Of course you use your brain to reason, but if you do believe in God & follow a religion, you have a book that should be your guide. If you believe you are enough to guide yourself through life, good for you, I leave all of my affairs to God and ask Him to guide me on a daily basis. It is a choice ~

There is a difference between a guide and an instruction manual. God may guide my path, that doesn't mean that I need specific instructions on my cleanliness, usury laws, etc. There are so many obvious reasons for this, one of them being that the technology and economics and all kinds of different things were completely different. What worked yesterday may not work today or tomorrow. The most important aspects of life- how we treat one another and ourselves, are the same, but no, I don't need a guide on every trivial issue in life. I have something better- a relationship. God is so much bigger and better than just a book and set of laws. I pray one day that you understand this.

Well I also believe that God is bigger than the Quran, the Quran is His miracle that He shared with mankind, but He is not restricted or contained to this one book at all. He is infinite! But as a Muslim, the Quran is my guide, it has a complete set of rules for every aspect of my life and it is timeless. it details all the authentic human physical and spiritual needs for all times. The God I believe in has complete and absolute knowledge of the world so of course His Book will transcend over time. Personally, I think this world is in the depths of darkness. We live in an age of unprecedented slaughter and oppression. We live in an age where the chasm between rich and poor (both people and countries) is staggeringly vast. We live in an age where this gap is exploited. Ours is an age of confusion, and moral relativism which is descending into outright moral rejectionism. In the West, our societies are crumbling from within, but our dangerous decay is masked by our affluence, the magnificent height of our buildings, the dizzying numbers on our economic balance sheet.We are becoming less human. And, like every other civilisational superpower that has lived before us, we are claiming that we are the greatest civilisation known to history, and that we are riding on an unsinkable ship.
I do not limit the above to the Western world. Most of what I've written applies globally.

Perhaps Christendom, or at least that part of it which is now called 'the West', has benefitted from putting its scripture to one side and becoming less religious. Perhaps the Bible does not have a significant role to play in Western civilisation. Perhaps it does.

Whatever the case, the Muslim world is completely different. The dark ages in which the Muslim world now finds itself are not a result of increased religiosity, or religious adherence, but rather of decreased adherence and religiosity. That social dynamic has bred religious ignorance so that anything can now be passed off as religion if you have a long-enough beard.The Muslim world right now, is going through some kind of renaissance. There are many competing ideologies, and in time one will emerge to recapture the enlightenment of the past. The Qur'an certainly has not lost its influence on human development. Rather it now has the capacity to be more positively influential than ever.The Qur'an does not need to be 'retooled into a more progressive mindset'. It is a progressive mindset. The early Muslims were progressive people. Real Muslim scholars continue to be.The Qur'an therefore, is not only relevant to the modern world, but will always be. It enunciates prinicples of guidance for humanity. Humanity does not change, though the manifestation of the human condition does. Essentially, the problems are always the same, even if the symptoms become more complex.

Ma salaama (with peace)

[Anonymous]

Forgive me for not paying attention Muslima, but I cannot remember - do you live here in DC? Just curious?

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:Forgive me for not paying attention Muslima, but I cannot remember - do you live here in DC? Just curious?

I do!

[Anonymous]

Please, take your agenda some place else. You have been very respectful but if you think you are fooling anyone well . . .

[Anonymous]

Muslima,

Turn on CNN an watch the coverage of ISIS. Please report back with your thoughts.

Thanks.