wow- Lance Armstrong is a sociopath

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Americans can be so mean. The man has confessed, his career is over, he and his family are humiliated, many people's lives are ruined...what else do you people want? Should he wear a sack and say "mea culpas" for the rest of his life?

How about forcing him to make whole, at least financially, the people he sued for speaking out about his doping? Both for the legal fees they incurred defending themselves against the suit, and for the wages lost when LA blackballed them in their profession?

How about compensating the people who didn't win the TDF, and therefore didn't get the lucrative endorsements? (And prize money? I assume there's prize money, but don't know for sure.) They are out tons of money, because of his cheating.

How about the sponsors? They could make a case that they bought something in good faith (his good reputation) and are now finding out that the sale was fraudulent. They could claim a part of his fortune.

Who else, lawyers? Who else could ensure that, one way or another, this guy spends the rest of his life tied up in the legal system? It's almost better than prison, having to go from hearing to lawyer meetings to trials, in a never-ending loop.

And which non-doping cyclists would those be? Good luck finding one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're right, 11:06, sports are not very important in the scheme of things but I do consider it important not to attack and try to ruin innocent people like Betsy Andreu, Mike Anderson, and Emma O'Reilly who are only telling the truth. I don't think doping is good for cycling but, as a former admirer of Lance, what upsets me is his unethical behavior towards other people.

Do you really think that it is unimportant that Emma O'Reilly feared that his lawsuit against her would bankrupt her?

How exactly did Lance ruin these people? Are they now homeless bums in the streets of America?

you are really dumb. having a team (literally, a large team) of attorneys bombard you with litigation that you cannot afford to defend, all the while Lance is blackballing you in your chosen profession, can ruin someone.

No, it couldn't. It could embarrass/frustrate/scare/anger/etc you, but it can't "ruin" you. Stop being so damn dramatic.

I'm guessing you've never been sued. It absolutely ruins people's lives. It has caused suicide in several cases especially when the government is doing the suing or a deep pocket plaintiff like Armstrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans can be so mean. The man has confessed, his career is over, he and his family are humiliated, many people's lives are ruined...what else do you people want? Should he wear a sack and say "mea culpas" for the rest of his life?

How about forcing him to make whole, at least financially, the people he sued for speaking out about his doping? Both for the legal fees they incurred defending themselves against the suit, and for the wages lost when LA blackballed them in their profession?

How about compensating the people who didn't win the TDF, and therefore didn't get the lucrative endorsements? (And prize money? I assume there's prize money, but don't know for sure.) They are out tons of money, because of his cheating.

How about the sponsors? They could make a case that they bought something in good faith (his good reputation) and are now finding out that the sale was fraudulent. They could claim a part of his fortune.

Who else, lawyers? Who else could ensure that, one way or another, this guy spends the rest of his life tied up in the legal system? It's almost better than prison, having to go from hearing to lawyer meetings to trials, in a never-ending loop.

And which non-doping cyclists would those be? Good luck finding one.

Yeah, it would probably have to be the guy who placed 7th or something. But still! Find that guy! Give him LA's money!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're right, 11:06, sports are not very important in the scheme of things but I do consider it important not to attack and try to ruin innocent people like Betsy Andreu, Mike Anderson, and Emma O'Reilly who are only telling the truth. I don't think doping is good for cycling but, as a former admirer of Lance, what upsets me is his unethical behavior towards other people.

Do you really think that it is unimportant that Emma O'Reilly feared that his lawsuit against her would bankrupt her?

How exactly did Lance ruin these people? Are they now homeless bums in the streets of America?

you are really dumb. having a team (literally, a large team) of attorneys bombard you with litigation that you cannot afford to defend, all the while Lance is blackballing you in your chosen profession, can ruin someone.

No, it couldn't. It could embarrass/frustrate/scare/anger/etc you, but it can't "ruin" you. Stop being so damn dramatic.

I'm guessing you've never been sued. It absolutely ruins people's lives. It has caused suicide in several cases especially when the government is doing the suing or a deep pocket plaintiff like Armstrong.

It only ruins your life if it bankrupts you and leaves you penniless. Otherwise, it is just a terrible experience you'd never want to repeat. This is not ruination. You Lance haters are a bit scary with your over-inflated outrage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're right, 11:06, sports are not very important in the scheme of things but I do consider it important not to attack and try to ruin innocent people like Betsy Andreu, Mike Anderson, and Emma O'Reilly who are only telling the truth. I don't think doping is good for cycling but, as a former admirer of Lance, what upsets me is his unethical behavior towards other people.

Do you really think that it is unimportant that Emma O'Reilly feared that his lawsuit against her would bankrupt her?

How exactly did Lance ruin these people? Are they now homeless bums in the streets of America?

you are really dumb. having a team (literally, a large team) of attorneys bombard you with litigation that you cannot afford to defend, all the while Lance is blackballing you in your chosen profession, can ruin someone.

And suggesting that the fact that you survived it and didn't end up homeless means what Lance did was okay is like saying that an attempted murder wasn't so bad because, hey, you recovered from the bullet wound and only walk with a limp now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His take on it: win at all costs, you come after me I come after you. It's all in the game. Lance Armstrong = Stringer Bell. Plenty of folks in prison with attitudes like his.

No. Stringer Bell is HOT. Lance Armstrong looks like a weasel.

Also, 4 pages and NO ONE has said, at least he had the ball to admit to doping? NO ONE?

The only reason he admitted it was for his own advantage. Why give him kudos at such a late date for that?

It's a joke about the number of balls he has - one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His take on it: win at all costs, you come after me I come after you. It's all in the game. Lance Armstrong = Stringer Bell. Plenty of folks in prison with attitudes like his.

No. Stringer Bell is HOT. Lance Armstrong looks like a weasel.

Also, 4 pages and NO ONE has said, at least he had the ball to admit to doping? NO ONE?

The only reason he admitted it was for his own advantage. Why give him kudos at such a late date for that?

It's a joke about the number of balls he has - one.

Yeah; I think the cancer joke is never funny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're right, 11:06, sports are not very important in the scheme of things but I do consider it important not to attack and try to ruin innocent people like Betsy Andreu, Mike Anderson, and Emma O'Reilly who are only telling the truth. I don't think doping is good for cycling but, as a former admirer of Lance, what upsets me is his unethical behavior towards other people.

Do you really think that it is unimportant that Emma O'Reilly feared that his lawsuit against her would bankrupt her?

How exactly did Lance ruin these people? Are they now homeless bums in the streets of America?

you are really dumb. having a team (literally, a large team) of attorneys bombard you with litigation that you cannot afford to defend, all the while Lance is blackballing you in your chosen profession, can ruin someone.

No, it couldn't. It could embarrass/frustrate/scare/anger/etc you, but it can't "ruin" you. Stop being so damn dramatic.

I'm guessing you've never been sued. It absolutely ruins people's lives. It has caused suicide in several cases especially when the government is doing the suing or a deep pocket plaintiff like Armstrong.

It only ruins your life if it bankrupts you and leaves you penniless. Otherwise, it is just a terrible experience you'd never want to repeat. This is not ruination. You Lance haters are a bit scary with your over-inflated outrage.

As Oprah might say... "Is this semantics, PP?"

[Anonymous]

I agree that the "it didn't ruin your life" poster is splitting hairs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're right, 11:06, sports are not very important in the scheme of things but I do consider it important not to attack and try to ruin innocent people like Betsy Andreu, Mike Anderson, and Emma O'Reilly who are only telling the truth. I don't think doping is good for cycling but, as a former admirer of Lance, what upsets me is his unethical behavior towards other people.

Do you really think that it is unimportant that Emma O'Reilly feared that his lawsuit against her would bankrupt her?

How exactly did Lance ruin these people? Are they now homeless bums in the streets of America?

you are really dumb. having a team (literally, a large team) of attorneys bombard you with litigation that you cannot afford to defend, all the while Lance is blackballing you in your chosen profession, can ruin someone.

No, it couldn't. It could embarrass/frustrate/scare/anger/etc you, but it can't "ruin" you. Stop being so damn dramatic.

I'm guessing you've never been sued. It absolutely ruins people's lives. It has caused suicide in several cases especially when the government is doing the suing or a deep pocket plaintiff like Armstrong.

It only ruins your life if it bankrupts you and leaves you penniless. Otherwise, it is just a terrible experience you'd never want to repeat. This is not ruination. You Lance haters are a bit scary with your over-inflated outrage.

Actually I wrote the original post above and want to remind you that I accused him of unethical behavior towards innocent people and that Emma O'Reilly feared that he would bankrupt her. I didn't say that he ruined her, just that he tried to do it. (BTW she is not co-author of Walsh's book). So are you saying that that is okay as long as none of those people ended up homeless? So is it okay if I steal from a family member or burglarize someone's house as long as they don't end up homeless? You have a very distorted view of what acceptable behavior is.

In fact, you're acting a bit like Lance with your dictionary out. For him it was a quibble over the definition of cheating which he argued didn't fit him. For you, it's the word "ruin." As long as no one was completely destroyed per your definition then it must not have been so bad. Bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're right, 11:06, sports are not very important in the scheme of things but I do consider it important not to attack and try to ruin innocent people like Betsy Andreu, Mike Anderson, and Emma O'Reilly who are only telling the truth. I don't think doping is good for cycling but, as a former admirer of Lance, what upsets me is his unethical behavior towards other people.

Do you really think that it is unimportant that Emma O'Reilly feared that his lawsuit against her would bankrupt her?

How exactly did Lance ruin these people? Are they now homeless bums in the streets of America?

you are really dumb. having a team (literally, a large team) of attorneys bombard you with litigation that you cannot afford to defend, all the while Lance is blackballing you in your chosen profession, can ruin someone.

No, it couldn't. It could embarrass/frustrate/scare/anger/etc you, but it can't "ruin" you. Stop being so damn dramatic.

The people who rode and associated with Mr. Armstrong did so by their own choosing. No one compelled them to latch onto his coattails. I never really understood the nature of cycling anyway, because it's a team sport, but only one person on the team is recognized as the winner of the race; which was always Armstrong. I'd be far too self-centered to be on that kind of a team unless of course I was Armstrong. Nevertheless, these individuals sold-out to be on his team. They were on his team - they're not pure as the driven snow either. If you choose to sleep with dogs, you shouldn't be too surprised if one day you wake up with fleas.

I'm guessing you've never been sued. It absolutely ruins people's lives. It has caused suicide in several cases especially when the government is doing the suing or a deep pocket plaintiff like Armstrong.

It only ruins your life if it bankrupts you and leaves you penniless. Otherwise, it is just a terrible experience you'd never want to repeat. This is not ruination. You Lance haters are a bit scary with your over-inflated outrage.

Actually I wrote the original post above and want to remind you that I accused him of unethical behavior towards innocent people and that Emma O'Reilly feared that he would bankrupt her. I didn't say that he ruined her, just that he tried to do it. (BTW she is not co-author of Walsh's book). So are you saying that that is okay as long as none of those people ended up homeless? So is it okay if I steal from a family member or burglarize someone's house as long as they don't end up homeless? You have a very distorted view of what acceptable behavior is.

In fact, you're acting a bit like Lance with your dictionary out. For him it was a quibble over the definition of cheating which he argued didn't fit him. For you, it's the word "ruin." As long as no one was completely destroyed per your definition then it must not have been so bad. Bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're right, 11:06, sports are not very important in the scheme of things but I do consider it important not to attack and try to ruin innocent people like Betsy Andreu, Mike Anderson, and Emma O'Reilly who are only telling the truth. I don't think doping is good for cycling but, as a former admirer of Lance, what upsets me is his unethical behavior towards other people.

Do you really think that it is unimportant that Emma O'Reilly feared that his lawsuit against her would bankrupt her?

How exactly did Lance ruin these people? Are they now homeless bums in the streets of America?

you are really dumb. having a team (literally, a large team) of attorneys bombard you with litigation that you cannot afford to defend, all the while Lance is blackballing you in your chosen profession, can ruin someone.

No, it couldn't. It could embarrass/frustrate/scare/anger/etc you, but it can't "ruin" you. Stop being so damn dramatic.

I'm guessing you've never been sued. It absolutely ruins people's lives. It has caused suicide in several cases especially when the government is doing the suing or a deep pocket plaintiff like Armstrong.

It only ruins your life if it bankrupts you and leaves you penniless. Otherwise, it is just a terrible experience you'd never want to repeat. This is not ruination. You Lance haters are a bit scary with your over-inflated outrage.

Actually I wrote the original post above and want to remind you that I accused him of unethical behavior towards innocent people and that Emma O'Reilly feared that he would bankrupt her. I didn't say that he ruined her, just that he tried to do it. (BTW she is not co-author of Walsh's book). So are you saying that that is okay as long as none of those people ended up homeless? So is it okay if I steal from a family member or burglarize someone's house as long as they don't end up homeless? You have a very distorted view of what acceptable behavior is.

In fact, you're acting a bit like Lance with your dictionary out. For him it was a quibble over the definition of cheating which he argued didn't fit him. For you, it's the word "ruin." As long as no one was completely destroyed per your definition then it must not have been so bad. Bizarre.

The people who rode and associated with Mr. Armstrong did so by their own choosing. No one compelled them to latch onto his coattails. I never really understood the nature of cycling anyway, because it's a team sport, but only one person on the team is recognized as the winner of the race; which was always Armstrong. I'd be far too self-centered to be on that kind of a team unless of course I was Armstrong. Nevertheless, these individuals sold-out to be on his team. They were on his team - so they're not pure as the driven snow either. If you choose to sleep with dogs, you shouldn't be too surprised if one day you wake up with fleas.

[Anonymous]

16:34, not quibbling, just want people to check themselves and not give into mass hysteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16:34, not quibbling, just want people to check themselves and not give into mass hysteria.

Wow. Please consider surrender.

[Anonymous]

"Also, 4 pages and NO ONE has said, at least he had the ball to admit to doping? NO ONE?


The only reason he admitted it was for his own advantage. Why give him kudos at such a late date for that?
It's a joke about the number of balls he has - one.

Yeah; I think the cancer joke is never funny."

The name of the cafe in Lance's bike shop, Mellow Johnnys, is called "Juan Pelota." Pelota means ball in Spanish. At least here he's made fun of himself, or that's my interpretation.