What type of stats/activities do you need to get into Boston University/BC?

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Anonymous wrote:BC and BU were very local schools 40 years ago. They have benefited by a segment of kids that want to spend 4 years in Boston and have no chance of getting into a top 25 school. Neither has the alumni prestige of many NESCAC schools. To suggest BC is on the same level of Notre Dame or Georgetown is fiction.


If you grew up in Boston you would know this is true from ai.

“ Boston College (BC) graduates have historically shaped—and continue to shape—Massachusetts courts and politics. Prominent alumni span the highest tiers of the state judiciary and government, including Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) Justices Serge Georges, Jr. and Elizabeth N. Dewar, and former State Attorney General Francis X. Bellotti.

The influence of Boston College Law School (BC Law) runs deep through the legal and political framework of the Commonwealth. This institutional dominance is highly visible at the highest levels:”




I went to the law school in the early 2000s and am still involved, it’s really not that good and most of the ~200 law schools in the country have some prominent alums. It’s at best a coin flip as to whether you get big law, which is the only way to pay sticker there. The issue is Boston is a rather small legal market, there are plenty of T13 grads who want associate roles, and BU and even Northeastern are cutting into BCs share of large firm roles. If my children ever considered a career in law I’d tell them to retake the lsat until they get into a much better law school.


Everyone doesn’t want Big Law. But BC Law graduates that do have a good shot at it. There are over ten big law firms and most recruit from BC. BC is over represented in the local big law firms. It’s still provincial in Boston and they will prefer a local who’s qualified for the job.
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Anonymous wrote:BC’s peer is Villanova both former commuter schools that parlayed sports success and suburban locations into appeal. Catholic schools like Marquette and St. Louis U don’t have the location magnet for full pay families. Obviously none have the star power of ND.


Notre Dame
Georgetown

BC


Villanova
Holy Cross

Fordham
Fairfield

the rest


I’m from the northeast and this looks a little different than what I’m used to. My whole life it’s been:

Georgetown
ND


BC

Holy Cross
Fordham
Villanova



Providence




Fairfield

I’m guessing this is a new perception or maybe typical somewhere specific? Did Fairfield and Villanova have a big come up and Fordham a downfall?
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Anonymous wrote:Thirty years ago BU, BC and NEU were mostly local with NEU transactioning later.


Probably more like the 1960s. And these schools turned out successful students. Maybe it was because the public schools were so good that they were prepared.

Some examples of the most successful locals are Biz Stone, cofounder of Twitter, Marc Raibart founder of Boston Dynamics, Jerald Fishman CEO of Analog plus many more that helped create a successful economy for Massachusetts.

BC turned out successful politicians and judges when it was local.

People try to insult BC and NEU calling them commuter schools when in those days they turned out some amazing local talent.


Huh…..BC was a commuter heavy school up to the 90s, BU pretty local up into the late 2000s, Northeastern was very local until around the same time. And it’s not disparaging at all, that’s just fact. Respectfully, it sounds a bit bizarre for someone who knows about these schools to suggest otherwise. Kind of like saying the sun didn’t set yesterday
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Anonymous wrote:BC and BU were very local schools 40 years ago. They have benefited by a segment of kids that want to spend 4 years in Boston and have no chance of getting into a top 25 school. Neither has the alumni prestige of many NESCAC schools. To suggest BC is on the same level of Notre Dame or Georgetown is fiction.


If you grew up in Boston you would know this is true from ai.

“ Boston College (BC) graduates have historically shaped—and continue to shape—Massachusetts courts and politics. Prominent alumni span the highest tiers of the state judiciary and government, including Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) Justices Serge Georges, Jr. and Elizabeth N. Dewar, and former State Attorney General Francis X. Bellotti.

The influence of Boston College Law School (BC Law) runs deep through the legal and political framework of the Commonwealth. This institutional dominance is highly visible at the highest levels:”




I went to the law school in the early 2000s and am still involved, it’s really not that good and most of the ~200 law schools in the country have some prominent alums. It’s at best a coin flip as to whether you get big law, which is the only way to pay sticker there. The issue is Boston is a rather small legal market, there are plenty of T13 grads who want associate roles, and BU and even Northeastern are cutting into BCs share of large firm roles. If my children ever considered a career in law I’d tell them to retake the lsat until they get into a much better law school.


Everyone doesn’t want Big Law. But BC Law graduates that do have a good shot at it. There are over ten big law firms and most recruit from BC. BC is over represented in the local big law firms. It’s still provincial in Boston and they will prefer a local who’s qualified for the job.


In recent years about ~80% of rising BC 2Ls partake in OCI, most will not receive an offer. Of the remaining 20%, some students want public interest; by and large public interest roles are more competitive than big law with the exception of public defender roles. Some of that 20% bombed 1L and know there’s no hope so they don’t participate.

There’s three full service Boston firms: Ropes, Goodwin, Wilmer. Anything else is treated like a satellite office and/or specializes in one practice so you don’t get to try out multiple areas of law. They aren’t a good place to start your career, and most BC placements in Boston are outside of those three exceptions.

I wouldn’t say you have a bad chance of big law from BC, it is a coin flip. But a coin flip after three years of studying is a foolhardy investment, and that’s assuming you know what big law is and that you want it (if your parent isn’t a corporate lawyer you probably don’t know what it entails, the divorce and substance abuse in the profession is like a high class version of Jerry Springer). You are better served retaking the LSAT until you get T-13 with merit aid or not entering law at all given the uncertainty of AI and the historically mediocre prospects BC offers. If you whiff at IB or MBB recruiting at a M7 MBA you can enter a bunch of other fields. Law leaves you with fewer business side options than before you set foot in the classroom.
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How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?
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Anonymous wrote:Thirty years ago BU, BC and NEU were mostly local with NEU transactioning later.


Probably more like the 1960s. And these schools turned out successful students. Maybe it was because the public schools were so good that they were prepared.

Some examples of the most successful locals are Biz Stone, cofounder of Twitter, Marc Raibart founder of Boston Dynamics, Jerald Fishman CEO of Analog plus many more that helped create a successful economy for Massachusetts.

BC turned out successful politicians and judges when it was local.

People try to insult BC and NEU calling them commuter schools when in those days they turned out some amazing local talent.


Huh…..BC was a commuter heavy school up to the 90s, BU pretty local up into the late 2000s, Northeastern was very local until around the same time. And it’s not disparaging at all, that’s just fact. Respectfully, it sounds a bit bizarre for someone who knows about these schools to suggest otherwise. Kind of like saying the sun didn’t set yesterday


Correct. There is still a wide swathe of MA that would never consider BC because of this commuter history and antipathy to the Catholic presence in MA. There are still towns that are overwhelmingly Catholic and don’t take kindly to Jews, minorities, or even well off Protestants. If you’ve spent time around suburban MA you know these towns and wouldn’t want your non-Catholic child around certain elements BC attracts.
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Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?


Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good
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Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?


Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good


Depends on what you mean by not that good. For Boston big law it is absolutely a reasonable choice. NYC market is obtainable for the top of the class as well but maybe not too much V10, and Georgetown or Fordham would be much better feeders to NYC big law. Of catholic law schools it is 1 of 4 that are prestigious and the ABA data proves it is a regional feeder
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Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.

ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.

How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?


ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.


It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.


If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.


Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.


They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.

You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff


BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.


ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.

Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself


And how is this a terrible thing? I still get the sense that your kid was rejected ED somewhere and then got rejected RD at BC. Is that what happened? Sure sounds that way. Why else would you be so salty?
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Anonymous wrote:BC and BU were very local schools 40 years ago. They have benefited by a segment of kids that want to spend 4 years in Boston and have no chance of getting into a top 25 school. Neither has the alumni prestige of many NESCAC schools. To suggest BC is on the same level of Notre Dame or Georgetown is fiction.


If you grew up in Boston you would know this is true from ai.

“ Boston College (BC) graduates have historically shaped—and continue to shape—Massachusetts courts and politics. Prominent alumni span the highest tiers of the state judiciary and government, including Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) Justices Serge Georges, Jr. and Elizabeth N. Dewar, and former State Attorney General Francis X. Bellotti.

The influence of Boston College Law School (BC Law) runs deep through the legal and political framework of the Commonwealth. This institutional dominance is highly visible at the highest levels:”





I went to the law school in the early 2000s and am still involved, it’s really not that good and most of the ~200 law schools in the country have some prominent alums. It’s at best a coin flip as to whether you get big law, which is the only way to pay sticker there. The issue is Boston is a rather small legal market, there are plenty of T13 grads who want associate roles, and BU and even Northeastern are cutting into BCs share of large firm roles. If my children ever considered a career in law I’d tell them to retake the lsat until they get into a much better law school.


Everyone doesn’t want Big Law. But BC Law graduates that do have a good shot at it. There are over ten big law firms and most recruit from BC. BC is over represented in the local big law firms. It’s still provincial in Boston and they will prefer a local who’s qualified for the job.


In recent years about ~80% of rising BC 2Ls partake in OCI, most will not receive an offer. Of the remaining 20%, some students want public interest; by and large public interest roles are more competitive than big law with the exception of public defender roles. Some of that 20% bombed 1L and know there’s no hope so they don’t participate.

There’s three full service Boston firms: Ropes, Goodwin, Wilmer. Anything else is treated like a satellite office and/or specializes in one practice so you don’t get to try out multiple areas of law. They aren’t a good place to start your career, and most BC placements in Boston are outside of those three exceptions.

I wouldn’t say you have a bad chance of big law from BC, it is a coin flip. But a coin flip after three years of studying is a foolhardy investment, and that’s assuming you know what big law is and that you want it (if your parent isn’t a corporate lawyer you probably don’t know what it entails, the divorce and substance abuse in the profession is like a high class version of Jerry Springer). You are better served retaking the LSAT until you get T-13 with merit aid or not entering law at all given the uncertainty of AI and the historically mediocre prospects BC offers. If you whiff at IB or MBB recruiting at a M7 MBA you can enter a bunch of other fields. Law leaves you with fewer business side options than before you set foot in the classroom.



BigLaw lawyer here, T10 law school grad. BU Law is way better than BC Law. Not much of a comparison, really.
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Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?


Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good


Depends on what you mean by not that good. For Boston big law it is absolutely a reasonable choice. NYC market is obtainable for the top of the class as well but maybe not too much V10, and Georgetown or Fordham would be much better feeders to NYC big law. Of catholic law schools it is 1 of 4 that are prestigious and the ABA data proves it is a regional feeder


The estimated cost of attendance at BC law is $315,000, and that doesn’t include the opportunity cost of holding a decent white collar job instead of going to law school. That is an enormous sum for a not great chance of big law. It is unreasonable.

Georgetown was T14 for a long time and fell on hard times, DC is the most competitive hiring market for entry level. It is still a much better school than BC.
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Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.

ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.

How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?


ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.


It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.


If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.


Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.


They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.

You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff


BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.


ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.

Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself


And how is this a terrible thing? I still get the sense that your kid was rejected ED somewhere and then got rejected RD at BC. Is that what happened? Sure sounds that way. Why else would you be so salty?


My child didn’t apply to BC. He liked other safeties more.

It’s a bad thing because BC can’t attract top students. It doesn’t have the endowment and reputation to give the aid and prestige needed to be considered a very good school. So instead of being an academic institution it’s a place for nouveau riche Catholics to hang out for four years.
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Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.

ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.

How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?


ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.


It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.


If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.


Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.


They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.

You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff


BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.


ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.

Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself


BC does take a good portion of their class ED, 57% to be exact. That is high, but not far off from other schools like University of Chicago (56%), Columbia (54%), Wash U (53%), and Penn (52%). Are you whining about these schools too?
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Anonymous wrote:BC and BU were very local schools 40 years ago. They have benefited by a segment of kids that want to spend 4 years in Boston and have no chance of getting into a top 25 school. Neither has the alumni prestige of many NESCAC schools. To suggest BC is on the same level of Notre Dame or Georgetown is fiction.


If you grew up in Boston you would know this is true from ai.

“ Boston College (BC) graduates have historically shaped—and continue to shape—Massachusetts courts and politics. Prominent alumni span the highest tiers of the state judiciary and government, including Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) Justices Serge Georges, Jr. and Elizabeth N. Dewar, and former State Attorney General Francis X. Bellotti.

The influence of Boston College Law School (BC Law) runs deep through the legal and political framework of the Commonwealth. This institutional dominance is highly visible at the highest levels:”





I went to the law school in the early 2000s and am still involved, it’s really not that good and most of the ~200 law schools in the country have some prominent alums. It’s at best a coin flip as to whether you get big law, which is the only way to pay sticker there. The issue is Boston is a rather small legal market, there are plenty of T13 grads who want associate roles, and BU and even Northeastern are cutting into BCs share of large firm roles. If my children ever considered a career in law I’d tell them to retake the lsat until they get into a much better law school.


Everyone doesn’t want Big Law. But BC Law graduates that do have a good shot at it. There are over ten big law firms and most recruit from BC. BC is over represented in the local big law firms. It’s still provincial in Boston and they will prefer a local who’s qualified for the job.


In recent years about ~80% of rising BC 2Ls partake in OCI, most will not receive an offer. Of the remaining 20%, some students want public interest; by and large public interest roles are more competitive than big law with the exception of public defender roles. Some of that 20% bombed 1L and know there’s no hope so they don’t participate.

There’s three full service Boston firms: Ropes, Goodwin, Wilmer. Anything else is treated like a satellite office and/or specializes in one practice so you don’t get to try out multiple areas of law. They aren’t a good place to start your career, and most BC placements in Boston are outside of those three exceptions.

I wouldn’t say you have a bad chance of big law from BC, it is a coin flip. But a coin flip after three years of studying is a foolhardy investment, and that’s assuming you know what big law is and that you want it (if your parent isn’t a corporate lawyer you probably don’t know what it entails, the divorce and substance abuse in the profession is like a high class version of Jerry Springer). You are better served retaking the LSAT until you get T-13 with merit aid or not entering law at all given the uncertainty of AI and the historically mediocre prospects BC offers. If you whiff at IB or MBB recruiting at a M7 MBA you can enter a bunch of other fields. Law leaves you with fewer business side options than before you set foot in the classroom.



BigLaw lawyer here, T10 law school grad. BU Law is way better than BC Law. Not much of a comparison, really.


Correct, the national reach of BU is much better and the Boston-specific benefit of BC is marginal. You’d be surprised how much of BCs placement is nephews and nieces of partners and Boston-area lifers with connections due to their neighbors in Hingham or Arlington. BC isn’t the place to go if you want big law.
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Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.

ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.

How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?


ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.


It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.


If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.


Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.


They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.

You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff


BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.


ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.

Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself


And how is this a terrible thing? I still get the sense that your kid was rejected ED somewhere and then got rejected RD at BC. Is that what happened? Sure sounds that way. Why else would you be so salty?


My child didn’t apply to BC. He liked other safeties more.

It’s a bad thing because BC can’t attract top students. It doesn’t have the endowment and reputation to give the aid and prestige needed to be considered a very good school. So instead of being an academic institution it’s a place for nouveau riche Catholics to hang out for four years.


Ahhh I get it now. You don't like Catholics. I should have known!! Typical DCUM.
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