What type of stats/activities do you need to get into Boston University/BC?

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Anonymous wrote:BC’s peer is Villanova both former commuter schools that parlayed sports success and suburban locations into appeal. Catholic schools like Marquette and St. Louis U don’t have the location magnet for full pay families. Obviously none have the star power of ND.

Notre Dame
Georgetown

BC


Villanova
Holy Cross

Fordham
Fairfield

the rest

I’m from the northeast and this looks a little different than what I’m used to. My whole life it’s been:

Georgetown
ND


BC

Holy Cross
Fordham
Villanova



Providence




Fairfield

I’m guessing this is a new perception or maybe typical somewhere specific? Did Fairfield and Villanova have a big come up and Fordham a downfall?

Yes, Villanova won two basketball championships and had a jump in apps and popularity. Fairfield not really, they have a low acceptance rate now which I believe is what that could be but it’s fairly artificial. Fordham saw like a 40 spot drop in the rankings, I believe due to financial stuff from Covid and a new school president. Reputations are generally the same as they used to be for all of them though. Villanovas acceptance rate has been going up with basketball struggles, Fordham just saw a massive uptick in applications this year for some reason, and I believe Fairfield technically has the lowest acceptance rate of the three but no one knows that who isn’t currently dealing with a high schooler (make these schools cheaper)

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Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.

ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.

How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?

ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.

It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.

If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.

Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.

They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.

You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff

BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.

ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.

Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself

BC does take a good portion of their class ED, 57% to be exact. That is high, but not far off from other schools like University of Chicago (56%), Columbia (54%), Wash U (53%), and Penn (52%). Are you whining about these schools too?

They don’t engage in the most disingenuous of yield protection (except WashU, which has lessened overtime) and their alums and parents don’t come on here to inflate the reputations of the schools. They don’t claim to be HYP. They also have the prestige and $$$$$ BC doesn’t. The BC community thinks way too highly itself, which isn’t anything to write home about. In fact it’s a disappointing outcome for any top student with promise.

I am still trying to figure you out. You clearly are out to just bash BC. I'm new here, so I may be missing something. I have heard about BC basher here before, but never engaged. It is quite bizarre, but I guess DCUM is filled with a lot of mental illness.

Do you really think a top student at St Albans or Sidwell would be happy with BC? Do you think parents at Gtown Day would be thrilled with that result? Get real.

They aren't sending many kids to ND either. BC and ND are 70-80 percent Catholic. So there's that. The top Catholic schools send their top kids to ND, BC, and Georgetown (even though it isn't really Catholic).

The top students at the top Catholic schools aren’t jazzed to go to BC. They want ND

I know 2 kids that were selected to both and chose BC within the past 2 years. They wanted to be in a great city and ND is very very isolated.

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BC has no depth as far as prestige and can’t compare to the other 3 old Catholic schools of GU, HC, and ND. Current Supreme Court has a HC grad and a ND law school grad. Forbes recently published its Billionaires list and again multiple alums from ND and Holy Cross on the list. The fervent BC boosters readily admit a handful of kids will pick BC over GU and ND because of location. Perhaps those sakne boosters will reference a kid who picked BC over Yale because of New Haven😀.

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Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.

ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.

How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?

ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.

It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.

If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.

Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.

They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.

You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff

BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.

ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.

Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself

BC does take a good portion of their class ED, 57% to be exact. That is high, but not far off from other schools like University of Chicago (56%), Columbia (54%), Wash U (53%), and Penn (52%). Are you whining about these schools too?

They don’t engage in the most disingenuous of yield protection (except WashU, which has lessened overtime) and their alums and parents don’t come on here to inflate the reputations of the schools. They don’t claim to be HYP. They also have the prestige and $$$$$ BC doesn’t. The BC community thinks way too highly itself, which isn’t anything to write home about. In fact it’s a disappointing outcome for any top student with promise.

I am still trying to figure you out. You clearly are out to just bash BC. I'm new here, so I may be missing something. I have heard about BC basher here before, but never engaged. It is quite bizarre, but I guess DCUM is filled with a lot of mental illness.

Do you really think a top student at St Albans or Sidwell would be happy with BC? Do you think parents at Gtown Day would be thrilled with that result? Get real.

They aren't sending many kids to ND either. BC and ND are 70-80 percent Catholic. So there's that. The top Catholic schools send their top kids to ND, BC, and Georgetown (even though it isn't really Catholic).

The top students at the top Catholic schools aren’t jazzed to go to BC. They want ND

I know 2 kids that were selected to both and chose BC within the past 2 years. They wanted to be in a great city and ND is very very isolated.

ND is not an easy school to get to and from. And if you are not into the culture and football games, you might be unhappy. I had a kid there for four years and he had a blast. But he knew exactly what he was getting into having been to campus multiple times with his dad for game days. It's a tough commute from anywhere because very few flights go directly to South Bend. You have to fly into Chicago Midway or O'Hare and then drive two hours. This is tough when you have a student there because getting to and from the airport is expensive unless you take the bus, which can have it's own complications. We got through it (and covid too ) and we wouldn't have it any other way. The last year DS had his car and drove the 8 plus hours to get back and forth. I had mixed feelings when DD was denied admission to ND but we all adjusted quite easily due to BC's proximity to Boston and its gorgeous campus. You can't beat a 20 minute uber ride from Logan, vs. the two hour haul from Chicago to ND. And Boston is such a great town for young people. I will be happy to visit and have access to fine dining and shopping...something sorely lacking in South Bend! But I still say Love The ND.

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Anonymous wrote:BC has no depth as far as prestige and can’t compare to the other 3 old Catholic schools of GU, HC, and ND. Current Supreme Court has a HC grad and a ND law school grad. Forbes recently published its Billionaires list and again multiple alums from ND and Holy Cross on the list. The fervent BC boosters readily admit a handful of kids will pick BC over GU and ND because of location. Perhaps those sakne boosters will reference a kid who picked BC over Yale because of New Haven😀.

Please stop. You don't add anything to this conversation other than the same old HC boosting. Nobody is picking HC over BC, sorry. HC doesn't belong in this conversation, as much as you would like it to.



On the other hand, yes, there are those who pick BC over ND, as much as you would like to believe otherwise. Personally, I wouldn't understand why (other than location), but it happens more than most realize.



Not totally surprised about Georgetown vs BC because these are two very different schools despite both being Jesuit. Georgetown's focus on government studies lends itself to a political environment that some would thrive on. My kid didn't like it or the lack of focus on Catholic identity, so she picked BC. But I can see how a Georgetown applicant might also apply to BC as their "backup school" so to speak. My kid really thought she would enroll at Georgetown, but once she spent time at both campuses, the decision was so easy for her. It is all about fit for us...rankings are secondary.



And adding here that New Haven has a lot more to offer than South Bend...for one thing, their pizza is much better.

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BC biggest problem is it is dominated by much better schools in Boston/New England. But BC is unique in its night/ part time Woods school which grants a full BC degree very good Financial bargain. And no BC boosters Harvard extension does not grant a “regular” Harvard degree.

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Anonymous wrote:BC biggest problem is it is dominated by much better schools in Boston/New England. But BC is unique in its night/ part time Woods school which grants a full BC degree very good Financial bargain. And no BC boosters Harvard extension does not grant a “regular” Harvard degree.

Nobody here is comparing BC to Harvard, as much as you would like to change that narrative. The HC booster, though, needs to stop it with the nonsense about it being on the same plain as ND. It will never be, nor will BC. Sadly HC booster will never accept that. I have a very close friend whose kid just enrolled at HC. She did so after being rejected from BC, Villanova, Georgetown, and others. She was actually waitlisted at BC, but no luck so far. Her mom is an alum of HC and she readily admits that BC was HER first choice when she applied many years ago. It makes total sense!!

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Anonymous wrote:BC biggest problem is it is dominated by much better schools in Boston/New England. But BC is unique in its night/ part time Woods school which grants a full BC degree very good Financial bargain. And no BC boosters Harvard extension does not grant a “regular” Harvard degree.

Harvard is way too smart to give out degrees to part time townie students.

ND dominates Chicago with northwestern and Chicago. BC can’t hold a candle to Harvard and New England LACs

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Anonymous wrote:BC biggest problem is it is dominated by much better schools in Boston/New England. But BC is unique in its night/ part time Woods school which grants a full BC degree very good Financial bargain. And no BC boosters Harvard extension does not grant a “regular” Harvard degree.

Nobody here is comparing BC to Harvard, as much as you would like to change that narrative. The HC booster, though, needs to stop it with the nonsense about it being on the same plain as ND. It will never be, nor will BC. Sadly HC booster will never accept that. I have a very close friend whose kid just enrolled at HC. She did so after being rejected from BC, Villanova, Georgetown, and others. She was actually waitlisted at BC, but no luck so far. Her mom is an alum of HC and she readily admits that BC was HER first choice when she applied many years ago. It makes total sense!!

It’s “plane” not plain. BC really doesn’t teach the fundamentals….