Anonymous wrote:First of all, BC and BU have completely different vibes, so your kids may naturally be more drawn to one school over the other.
Second, who cares about the past. Whether it used to be a commuter school or not? Many people keep arguing about outdated points that are irrelevant now. It is a solid school that is not easy to get into. Focus on the future and what each school can offer you.
The United States was once a colony of Britain. Does that matter now in terms of how the U.S. influences the world?
I’d rather my child go to a school where they can contact alums who are successful and come from nice backgrounds, not former commuter students working middle office roles with a BC diploma on their cubicle wall.
Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.
ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.
How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?
ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.
It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.
If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.
Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.
They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.
You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff
BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.
ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.
Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself
BC does take a good portion of their class ED, 57% to be exact. That is high, but not far off from other schools like University of Chicago (56%), Columbia (54%), Wash U (53%), and Penn (52%). Are you whining about these schools too?
They don’t engage in the most disingenuous of yield protection (except WashU, which has lessened overtime) and their alums and parents don’t come on here to inflate the reputations of the schools. They don’t claim to be HYP. They also have the prestige and $$$$$ BC doesn’t. The BC community thinks way too highly itself, which isn’t anything to write home about. In fact it’s a disappointing outcome for any top student with promise.
I am still trying to figure you out. You clearly are out to just bash BC. I'm new here, so I may be missing something. I have heard about BC basher here before, but never engaged. It is quite bizarre, but I guess DCUM is filled with a lot of mental illness.
Do you really think a top student at St Albans or Sidwell would be happy with BC? Do you think parents at Gtown Day would be thrilled with that result? Get real.
They aren't sending many kids to ND either. BC and ND are 70-80 percent Catholic. So there's that. The top Catholic schools send their top kids to ND, BC, and Georgetown (even though it isn't really Catholic).
The top students at the top Catholic schools aren’t jazzed to go to BC. They want ND
No, so they can start a great career. Something few BC students do. Fun fact, my roofer last year was BC alum from 1984. He doesn’t have health insurance but that BC sticker on his pickup gives me a chuckle. YOLO
Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?
Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good
Depends on what you mean by not that good. For Boston big law it is absolutely a reasonable choice. NYC market is obtainable for the top of the class as well but maybe not too much V10, and Georgetown or Fordham would be much better feeders to NYC big law. Of catholic law schools it is 1 of 4 that are prestigious and the ABA data proves it is a regional feeder
The estimated cost of attendance at BC law is $315,000, and that doesn’t include the opportunity cost of holding a decent white collar job instead of going to law school. That is an enormous sum for a not great chance of big law. It is unreasonable.
Georgetown was T14 for a long time and fell on hard times, DC is the most competitive hiring market for entry level. It is still a much better school than BC.
It did not fall on hard times, the rankings have been totally overhauled after all the top law schools protested the ranking. It is a T14. The legal market has not changed.
So it’s significantly better than BC Law still? Understood.
I didn’t mention BC, but Georgetown law is stronger, yes. However, BC law is still reputable, comfortably in the 17-24 range of law schools, and a regional feeder for big law. So compared to Harvard, yes, it’s not the best, but from your trailer park it is unbelievable, and unobtainable.
Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?
Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good
Depends on what you mean by not that good. For Boston big law it is absolutely a reasonable choice. NYC market is obtainable for the top of the class as well but maybe not too much V10, and Georgetown or Fordham would be much better feeders to NYC big law. Of catholic law schools it is 1 of 4 that are prestigious and the ABA data proves it is a regional feeder
The estimated cost of attendance at BC law is $315,000, and that doesn’t include the opportunity cost of holding a decent white collar job instead of going to law school. That is an enormous sum for a not great chance of big law. It is unreasonable.
Georgetown was T14 for a long time and fell on hard times, DC is the most competitive hiring market for entry level. It is still a much better school than BC.
It did not fall on hard times, the rankings have been totally overhauled after all the top law schools protested the ranking. It is a T14. The legal market has not changed.
So it’s significantly better than BC Law still? Understood.
I didn’t mention BC, but Georgetown law is stronger, yes. However, BC law is still reputable, comfortably in the 17-24 range of law schools, and a regional feeder for big law. So compared to Harvard, yes, it’s not the best, but from your trailer park it is unbelievable, and unobtainable.
Mocking the poor and assuming anyone you disagree with is downtrodden relates to the Catholic nouveau riche comment. Totally classless institution with a chip on its shoulder.
Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?
Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good
Depends on what you mean by not that good. For Boston big law it is absolutely a reasonable choice. NYC market is obtainable for the top of the class as well but maybe not too much V10, and Georgetown or Fordham would be much better feeders to NYC big law. Of catholic law schools it is 1 of 4 that are prestigious and the ABA data proves it is a regional feeder
The estimated cost of attendance at BC law is $315,000, and that doesn’t include the opportunity cost of holding a decent white collar job instead of going to law school. That is an enormous sum for a not great chance of big law. It is unreasonable.
Georgetown was T14 for a long time and fell on hard times, DC is the most competitive hiring market for entry level. It is still a much better school than BC.
It did not fall on hard times, the rankings have been totally overhauled after all the top law schools protested the ranking. It is a T14. The legal market has not changed.
So it’s significantly better than BC Law still? Understood.
I didn’t mention BC, but Georgetown law is stronger, yes. However, BC law is still reputable, comfortably in the 17-24 range of law schools, and a regional feeder for big law. So compared to Harvard, yes, it’s not the best, but from your trailer park it is unbelievable, and unobtainable.
Mocking the poor and assuming anyone you disagree with is downtrodden relates to the Catholic nouveau riche comment. Totally classless institution with a chip on its shoulder.
Interesting thread, must disagree with the bc parents boosters, it is nowhere near the prestige of Notre Dame and Georgetown and yes Holy Cross. Those schools have storied centuries of those producing famous grads. BC like BU is surrounded by dozens of more prestigious colleges in New England. Does anyone thing BC is better than Tufts, Bowdoin, or Middlebury. It is like Wake and Tulane a good school for full pay families but not a top 25 private.
Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?
Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good
Depends on what you mean by not that good. For Boston big law it is absolutely a reasonable choice. NYC market is obtainable for the top of the class as well but maybe not too much V10, and Georgetown or Fordham would be much better feeders to NYC big law. Of catholic law schools it is 1 of 4 that are prestigious and the ABA data proves it is a regional feeder
The estimated cost of attendance at BC law is $315,000, and that doesn’t include the opportunity cost of holding a decent white collar job instead of going to law school. That is an enormous sum for a not great chance of big law. It is unreasonable.
Georgetown was T14 for a long time and fell on hard times, DC is the most competitive hiring market for entry level. It is still a much better school than BC.
It did not fall on hard times, the rankings have been totally overhauled after all the top law schools protested the ranking. It is a T14. The legal market has not changed.
So it’s significantly better than BC Law still? Understood.
I didn’t mention BC, but Georgetown law is stronger, yes. However, BC law is still reputable, comfortably in the 17-24 range of law schools, and a regional feeder for big law. So compared to Harvard, yes, it’s not the best, but from your trailer park it is unbelievable, and unobtainable.
Mocking the poor and assuming anyone you disagree with is downtrodden relates to the Catholic nouveau riche comment. Totally classless institution with a chip on its shoulder.
Anonymous wrote:Interesting thread, must disagree with the bc parents boosters, it is nowhere near the prestige of Notre Dame and Georgetown and yes Holy Cross. Those schools have storied centuries of those producing famous grads. BC like BU is surrounded by dozens of more prestigious colleges in New England. Does anyone thing BC is better than Tufts, Bowdoin, or Middlebury. It is like Wake and Tulane a good school for full pay families but not a top 25 private.
This is the proper take despite the boosters and one absurd basher.
Keep in mind, their most prominent alum from the undergrad program is Doug Flutie. That is not an alumni body you want to join.
Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?
Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good
Depends on what you mean by not that good. For Boston big law it is absolutely a reasonable choice. NYC market is obtainable for the top of the class as well but maybe not too much V10, and Georgetown or Fordham would be much better feeders to NYC big law. Of catholic law schools it is 1 of 4 that are prestigious and the ABA data proves it is a regional feeder
The estimated cost of attendance at BC law is $315,000, and that doesn’t include the opportunity cost of holding a decent white collar job instead of going to law school. That is an enormous sum for a not great chance of big law. It is unreasonable.
Georgetown was T14 for a long time and fell on hard times, DC is the most competitive hiring market for entry level. It is still a much better school than BC.
It did not fall on hard times, the rankings have been totally overhauled after all the top law schools protested the ranking. It is a T14. The legal market has not changed.
So it’s significantly better than BC Law still? Understood.
I didn’t mention BC, but Georgetown law is stronger, yes. However, BC law is still reputable, comfortably in the 17-24 range of law schools, and a regional feeder for big law. So compared to Harvard, yes, it’s not the best, but from your trailer park it is unbelievable, and unobtainable.
Mocking the poor and assuming anyone you disagree with is downtrodden relates to the Catholic nouveau riche comment. Totally classless institution with a chip on its shoulder.
Anonymous wrote:How does a thread about the stats needed for BU/BC end up talking about BigLaw?
Because someone made the law school seem like a reason to go to BC when, in fact, it is like the undergrad: expensive and not that good
Depends on what you mean by not that good. For Boston big law it is absolutely a reasonable choice. NYC market is obtainable for the top of the class as well but maybe not too much V10, and Georgetown or Fordham would be much better feeders to NYC big law. Of catholic law schools it is 1 of 4 that are prestigious and the ABA data proves it is a regional feeder
The estimated cost of attendance at BC law is $315,000, and that doesn’t include the opportunity cost of holding a decent white collar job instead of going to law school. That is an enormous sum for a not great chance of big law. It is unreasonable.
Georgetown was T14 for a long time and fell on hard times, DC is the most competitive hiring market for entry level. It is still a much better school than BC.
It did not fall on hard times, the rankings have been totally overhauled after all the top law schools protested the ranking. It is a T14. The legal market has not changed.
So it’s significantly better than BC Law still? Understood.
I didn’t mention BC, but Georgetown law is stronger, yes. However, BC law is still reputable, comfortably in the 17-24 range of law schools, and a regional feeder for big law. So compared to Harvard, yes, it’s not the best, but from your trailer park it is unbelievable, and unobtainable.
Mocking the poor and assuming anyone you disagree with is downtrodden relates to the Catholic nouveau riche comment. Totally classless institution with a chip on its shoulder.
Nice try (not really)
Enjoy life in Weymouth or Quincy (not really)
Enjoy high school
Wow, I guess being called South Shore Tra$h got to you. That is the bread and butter for BC admissions
Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.
ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.
How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?
ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.
It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.
If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.
Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.
They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.
You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff
BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.
ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.
Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself
BC does take a good portion of their class ED, 57% to be exact. That is high, but not far off from other schools like University of Chicago (56%), Columbia (54%), Wash U (53%), and Penn (52%). Are you whining about these schools too?
They don’t engage in the most disingenuous of yield protection (except WashU, which has lessened overtime) and their alums and parents don’t come on here to inflate the reputations of the schools. They don’t claim to be HYP. They also have the prestige and $$$$$ BC doesn’t. The BC community thinks way too highly itself, which isn’t anything to write home about. In fact it’s a disappointing outcome for any top student with promise.
I am still trying to figure you out. You clearly are out to just bash BC. I'm new here, so I may be missing something. I have heard about BC basher here before, but never engaged. It is quite bizarre, but I guess DCUM is filled with a lot of mental illness.
Do you really think a top student at St Albans or Sidwell would be happy with BC? Do you think parents at Gtown Day would be thrilled with that result? Get real.
They aren't sending many kids to ND either. BC and ND are 70-80 percent Catholic. So there's that. The top Catholic schools send their top kids to ND, BC, and Georgetown (even though it isn't really Catholic).
The top students at the top Catholic schools aren’t jazzed to go to BC. They want ND
They actually are going for a wide variety of top schools like Vandy, Duke, Dartmouth, Chicago, Northwestern, etc. Many don't want to go to South Bend. Some who prefer a Catholic school pick BC over ND because of location. It's a tough grind getting to and from campus and not much happening beyond the campus. I say this as the mom of an ND grad who loved his time there. It just isn't for everyone. These are all great schools, BC included.
I don’t think this is the BC basher. That poster wouldn’t shut up about how women of the night dominated the social scene and hung around the BC bars for clients. It was very funny although super sad to watch.
Very few Catholic families in our circle would pick BC because doesn’t have the old money tradition. If your grandfather went to ND or Holy Cross or Georgetown you don’t seek out BC.
Anonymous wrote:Very few Catholic families in our circle would pick BC because doesn’t have the old money tradition. If your grandfather went to ND or Holy Cross or Georgetown you don’t seek out BC.
And if your grandfather was Catholic and had money and a good background, he didn’t go to BC
Anonymous wrote:You can tell BC has a lot going for it from the desperate criticism from ND, Georgetown, & Holy Cross fans.
ND folks are apparently green with envy over BC’s unlimited off-campus activities. It seems to really bother Hoyas that BC has a beautiful campus & a football team that draws tens of thousands of spectators rather than just tens. And Holy Cross boosters always point out that the city of Boston is just a quick one-hour drive from Worcester. And somebody here is obsessed with the % of commuters BC had during the Nixon years.
How’s about everybody just calm down & revel in the strengths of their own school without inventing stuff to hurl at the others?
ND and Gtown aren’t jealous of BC. Gtown is hardly Catholic, too. BC is a fine school, it’s just at that level of cost and respectability where it’s an open question whether it is worth attending and paying for it over cheaper options with worse academics. Someone from PA should go to Penn State over BC, for instance, absent a massive scholarship.
It's about fit and affordability. My kid got into lots of great schools but picked BC because it felt right for them. Feeling blessed we can afford to send them there.
If you are in a position that 90,000 a year or whatever it is now isn’t a big deal, then good on you and it may be the right decision. For most Americans, going to BC at even half that cost is stupidity.
Then those Americans should enroll elsewhere. I clearly said affordability. We saved the money for college. Whatever college is right for our kid will be accessible to them, regardless of cost or rank. It isn't always about ROI. We also spent $50K a year on private high school even though we live in a very strong school district.
They do enroll elsewhere and BC knows that. That is why they prioritize full pay ED applicants to the extent it’s practically a meme.
You are welcome to spend your money as you see fit, objectively BC at sticker is a ripoff
BC is need blind, so I don't know where you are getting your information. You seem a bit on edge about BC in general...did your kid get in and you had to say no even though he wanted to go? Or maybe your kid wanted to ED, and that wasn't an option for your finances? It's ok! There are a lot of great schools out there. But to keep coming on this thread to bash BC is just weird.
ED forces you to attend a school. Rich kids apply to BC ED and BC knows they can pay, so BC accepts a ton ED. Then its RD rate is deflated well below what a school of its caliber should be.
Please, as if anyone here is jealous about BC. Don’t embarrass yourself
BC does take a good portion of their class ED, 57% to be exact. That is high, but not far off from other schools like University of Chicago (56%), Columbia (54%), Wash U (53%), and Penn (52%). Are you whining about these schools too?
They don’t engage in the most disingenuous of yield protection (except WashU, which has lessened overtime) and their alums and parents don’t come on here to inflate the reputations of the schools. They don’t claim to be HYP. They also have the prestige and $$$$$ BC doesn’t. The BC community thinks way too highly itself, which isn’t anything to write home about. In fact it’s a disappointing outcome for any top student with promise.
I am still trying to figure you out. You clearly are out to just bash BC. I'm new here, so I may be missing something. I have heard about BC basher here before, but never engaged. It is quite bizarre, but I guess DCUM is filled with a lot of mental illness.
Do you really think a top student at St Albans or Sidwell would be happy with BC? Do you think parents at Gtown Day would be thrilled with that result? Get real.
They aren't sending many kids to ND either. BC and ND are 70-80 percent Catholic. So there's that. The top Catholic schools send their top kids to ND, BC, and Georgetown (even though it isn't really Catholic).
The top students at the top Catholic schools aren’t jazzed to go to BC. They want ND
They actually are going for a wide variety of top schools like Vandy, Duke, Dartmouth, Chicago, Northwestern, etc. Many don't want to go to South Bend. Some who prefer a Catholic school pick BC over ND because of location. It's a tough grind getting to and from campus and not much happening beyond the campus. I say this as the mom of an ND grad who loved his time there. It just isn't for everyone. These are all great schools, BC included.
BC is not on the level of Duke or Vandy or Chicago. Laughable