Have you decided to age naturally, gracefully- no botox, etc.?

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Anonymous wrote:My mom is 70 and very judgmental about this sort of thing.
No woman should ever leave the house without lipstick, but any eye makeup is trying too hard.
No woman should let her hair go gray, but it also shouldn’t be long enough to touch her shoulders if she’s over 35.
Women should diet if they are obese, but any form of “working out” is vain.
Absolutely no medical interventions with the exception of a neck lift if the turkey neck is really bad.
Women should be ashamed of themselves for going out in sweats, but also shouldn’t be wearing short skirts or anything remotely “young” coded past 30.
Make it make sense. I’m 40 and the stuff I do to try and stave off aging really annoys her. She is always asking if I’m doing it for “him” (I.e. my husband.) I think in her mind the ideal woman is a 90s mom with a Princess Di bob, big sweater and mom jeans.

Tell your mom to get a job because she has too much free time on her hands.

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Anonymous wrote:In my sixties, botoxing, using fillers, small amount of plastic surgery.

I’m tired of it, never ending. I’ve decided to age naturally, wrinkles and all. It will be tough, all my friends are sculpted.

Anyone else tired of beautifying?

Yup. I stopped everything 18 months ago - no more coloring my hair, no Botox, no fillers, nothing. I'm 57. It's freeing, even though I look much older now that I'm mostly gray with lots of wrinkles. I just don't care anymore. I'm lucky to have a devoted husband and healthy grown kids, plus a supportive nuclear family. It's not worth the time, money, or energy to work on stopping the hands of time. As a cancer survivor, I've leaned into gratitude for still being here. I know it sounds as if I'm protesting too much, but I'm genuinely relieved to be off the beautification treadmill.

So Happy for you and best of luck with your health!!

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I am almost 58 and have a good skin care regimen. I was just not prepared for the skin sagging. I will not be getting a facelift (not in the cards financially and I probably wouldn’t get it done anyway), but it does bother me.

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I was at a party last night. Some older lady said I had beautiful bone structure but I needed to step up my skincare routine.
I am doing what I can but I was gravely insulted. Maybe some ppl don’t care what their skin looks like?

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Anonymous wrote:It helps to live in the DMV where I’ve never seen a woman wear makeup. I guess if I lived in CA or TX I might be reaching for these interventions more.

+1. My office is full of 40-65 year old women, and no one does anything. I feel like doing anything would make me stand out in a weird way.

This is why the DMV sucks so bad. You don't have to have a Mar-a-lago face to look nice. I dress up everyday and do wear makeup. I certainly stand out in the office. I also get a LOT of compliments because I act like I give a sh*t.

I do all the things. Botox, micro-needling, chemical peels, really good skincare. I recently had filler dissolved that was initially under my eyes for hallows, but it moved into my cheeks. If you didn't know you wouldn't notice b/c I have high cheekbones, but it bothered me. Much happier without it.

I also dress nicely and am thin. I am very fit. I'm 56. I'm not trying to look younger, just really good for my age.

Just people are polite enough not to mention your messed up fillers doesn’t mean they didn’t notice.

That's really mean. Why are women saying these kinds of things? It's the patriarchy getting us to fight.

I probably won't ever get fillers, Botox, etc, but I don't know why we're tearing each other down. I don't think either way is right or says something larger about society. It's the mommy wars continued.

I’m confident that sticking chemicals in your face to fight a losing battle is the wrong way. I have no idea what you are prattling on about the patriarchy and mommy wars. Lord. Women don’t gain, nearly what they lose, when they spend so much money on their appearance.

You continue to prove my point with the sexist term "prattling on."

I am happy to report that prattling on is an equal opportunity insult.

Nope. Nobody says that about men.

Here you are certain that your thoughts about beauty are the right way, but you're ignoring the ugliness within.

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Anonymous wrote:It helps to live in the DMV where I’ve never seen a woman wear makeup. I guess if I lived in CA or TX I might be reaching for these interventions more.

+1. My office is full of 40-65 year old women, and no one does anything. I feel like doing anything would make me stand out in a weird way.

This is why the DMV sucks so bad. You don't have to have a Mar-a-lago face to look nice. I dress up everyday and do wear makeup. I certainly stand out in the office. I also get a LOT of compliments because I act like I give a sh*t.

I do all the things. Botox, micro-needling, chemical peels, really good skincare. I recently had filler dissolved that was initially under my eyes for hallows, but it moved into my cheeks. If you didn't know you wouldn't notice b/c I have high cheekbones, but it bothered me. Much happier without it.

I also dress nicely and am thin. I am very fit. I'm 56. I'm not trying to look younger, just really good for my age.

Just people are polite enough not to mention your messed up fillers doesn’t mean they didn’t notice.

That's really mean. Why are women saying these kinds of things? It's the patriarchy getting us to fight.

I probably won't ever get fillers, Botox, etc, but I don't know why we're tearing each other down. I don't think either way is right or says something larger about society. It's the mommy wars continued.

I’m confident that sticking chemicals in your face to fight a losing battle is the wrong way. I have no idea what you are prattling on about the patriarchy and mommy wars. Lord. Women don’t gain, nearly what they lose, when they spend so much money on their appearance.

You continue to prove my point with the sexist term "prattling on."

I am happy to report that prattling on is an equal opportunity insult.

Nope. Nobody says that about men.

Here you are certain that your thoughts about beauty are the right way, but you're ignoring the ugliness within.

I do, especially when they make dumb comments. So how is taking issue with women spending $$$ to inject their faces with chemicals to fight a losing battle with aging part of the patriarchy? You never were able to defend that pathetic statement.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a party last night. Some older lady said I had beautiful bone structure but I needed to step up my skincare routine.
I am doing what I can but I was gravely insulted. Maybe some ppl don’t care what their skin looks like?

She was rude. Ignore her.

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Anonymous wrote:It helps to live in the DMV where I’ve never seen a woman wear makeup. I guess if I lived in CA or TX I might be reaching for these interventions more.

+1. My office is full of 40-65 year old women, and no one does anything. I feel like doing anything would make me stand out in a weird way.

This is why the DMV sucks so bad. You don't have to have a Mar-a-lago face to look nice. I dress up everyday and do wear makeup. I certainly stand out in the office. I also get a LOT of compliments because I act like I give a sh*t.

I do all the things. Botox, micro-needling, chemical peels, really good skincare. I recently had filler dissolved that was initially under my eyes for hallows, but it moved into my cheeks. If you didn't know you wouldn't notice b/c I have high cheekbones, but it bothered me. Much happier without it.

I also dress nicely and am thin. I am very fit. I'm 56. I'm not trying to look younger, just really good for my age.

Just people are polite enough not to mention your messed up fillers doesn’t mean they didn’t notice.

That's really mean. Why are women saying these kinds of things? It's the patriarchy getting us to fight.

I probably won't ever get fillers, Botox, etc, but I don't know why we're tearing each other down. I don't think either way is right or says something larger about society. It's the mommy wars continued.

I’m confident that sticking chemicals in your face to fight a losing battle is the wrong way. I have no idea what you are prattling on about the patriarchy and mommy wars. Lord. Women don’t gain, nearly what they lose, when they spend so much money on their appearance.

You continue to prove my point with the sexist term "prattling on."

I am happy to report that prattling on is an equal opportunity insult.

Nope. Nobody says that about men.

Here you are certain that your thoughts about beauty are the right way, but you're ignoring the ugliness within.

I do, especially when they make dumb comments. So how is taking issue with women spending $$$ to inject their faces with chemicals to fight a losing battle with aging part of the patriarchy? You never were able to defend that pathetic statement.

Because any pressure by the patriarchy for women to conform to beauty standards encourages women to judge each other, which creates insecurity and envy. It neglects that many women in midlife and on are still in the workforce and will often be penalized for not conforming to beauty standards. If you chide a woman for getting botox, you're effectively telling her she must decide between her job and a cohort of women she's excluded from. And, internalized misogyny (that let's face it we all struggle with from time to time) often treats women with the same contempt they receive from the patriarchal system.

Honestly, the less energy we give this the better.

You say my statement is pathetic, but all you've done is attack another woman and me.

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I have always aged naturally - throughout life and will continue to do so.

The only feature of aging that I don't like is the drooping down of the sides of my mouth as I look sad or upset or unhappy all the time. Kind of looks like a permanent frown.

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Anonymous wrote:It helps to live in the DMV where I’ve never seen a woman wear makeup. I guess if I lived in CA or TX I might be reaching for these interventions more.

+1. My office is full of 40-65 year old women, and no one does anything. I feel like doing anything would make me stand out in a weird way.

This is why the DMV sucks so bad. You don't have to have a Mar-a-lago face to look nice. I dress up everyday and do wear makeup. I certainly stand out in the office. I also get a LOT of compliments because I act like I give a sh*t.

I do all the things. Botox, micro-needling, chemical peels, really good skincare. I recently had filler dissolved that was initially under my eyes for hallows, but it moved into my cheeks. If you didn't know you wouldn't notice b/c I have high cheekbones, but it bothered me. Much happier without it.

I also dress nicely and am thin. I am very fit. I'm 56. I'm not trying to look younger, just really good for my age.

Just people are polite enough not to mention your messed up fillers doesn’t mean they didn’t notice.

That's really mean. Why are women saying these kinds of things? It's the patriarchy getting us to fight.

I probably won't ever get fillers, Botox, etc, but I don't know why we're tearing each other down. I don't think either way is right or says something larger about society. It's the mommy wars continued.

I’m confident that sticking chemicals in your face to fight a losing battle is the wrong way. I have no idea what you are prattling on about the patriarchy and mommy wars. Lord. Women don’t gain, nearly what they lose, when they spend so much money on their appearance.

You continue to prove my point with the sexist term "prattling on."

I am happy to report that prattling on is an equal opportunity insult.

Nope. Nobody says that about men.

Here you are certain that your thoughts about beauty are the right way, but you're ignoring the ugliness within.

I do, especially when they make dumb comments. So how is taking issue with women spending $$$ to inject their faces with chemicals to fight a losing battle with aging part of the patriarchy? You never were able to defend that pathetic statement.

Because any pressure by the patriarchy for women to conform to beauty standards encourages women to judge each other, which creates insecurity and envy. It neglects that many women in midlife and on are still in the workforce and will often be penalized for not conforming to beauty standards. If you chide a woman for getting botox, you're effectively telling her she must decide between her job and a cohort of women she's excluded from. And, internalized misogyny (that let's face it we all struggle with from time to time) often treats women with the same contempt they receive from the patriarchal system.

Honestly, the less energy we give this the better.

You say my statement is pathetic, but all you've done is attack another woman and me.

Your statement is word salad nonsense. You are absolutely delusional if you think Botox is saving your job.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a party last night. Some older lady said I had beautiful bone structure but I needed to step up my skincare routine.
I am doing what I can but I was gravely insulted. Maybe some ppl don’t care what their skin looks like?

lol. Sounds like one of the old ladies on that DCUM thread talking about how they don’t give an eff about anything anymore. She probably just goes around insulting people all day everyday.

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Anonymous wrote:Botox and fillers are off-putting and can actually age your appearance. They’re artificial attempts to achieve a certain look. There are natural ways to maintain a youthful appearance. For example, my aunt, who is 56, looks 20 years younger. She’s had a stress free life—she never worked, her kids were raised by nannies, and she focused on wellness from a young age. She started using prescriptions like Tretinoin at 16, and was very into anti-aging, she stayed hydrated inside and out, didn’t wear makeup and never forgot sunscreen, ate an organic diet/no carbs, and the most important thing, was sleep, which contributed to her overall appearance.

Gotcha. For those of us who had work stress and raised our own kids, Botox is pretty great. And so are very conservative fillers.

How can you judge someone on a totally safe, decades old quick treatment while advocating ridiculous things like a “stress free life” with no carbs? Or is the whole thing satire?

Most people’s entire lives are satire.

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Anonymous wrote:It helps to live in the DMV where I’ve never seen a woman wear makeup. I guess if I lived in CA or TX I might be reaching for these interventions more.

+1. My office is full of 40-65 year old women, and no one does anything. I feel like doing anything would make me stand out in a weird way.

This is why the DMV sucks so bad. You don't have to have a Mar-a-lago face to look nice. I dress up everyday and do wear makeup. I certainly stand out in the office. I also get a LOT of compliments because I act like I give a sh*t.

I do all the things. Botox, micro-needling, chemical peels, really good skincare. I recently had filler dissolved that was initially under my eyes for hallows, but it moved into my cheeks. If you didn't know you wouldn't notice b/c I have high cheekbones, but it bothered me. Much happier without it.

I also dress nicely and am thin. I am very fit. I'm 56. I'm not trying to look younger, just really good for my age.

Just people are polite enough not to mention your messed up fillers doesn’t mean they didn’t notice.

That's really mean. Why are women saying these kinds of things? It's the patriarchy getting us to fight.

I probably won't ever get fillers, Botox, etc, but I don't know why we're tearing each other down. I don't think either way is right or says something larger about society. It's the mommy wars continued.

I’m confident that sticking chemicals in your face to fight a losing battle is the wrong way. I have no idea what you are prattling on about the patriarchy and mommy wars. Lord. Women don’t gain, nearly what they lose, when they spend so much money on their appearance.

You continue to prove my point with the sexist term "prattling on."

I am happy to report that prattling on is an equal opportunity insult.

Nope. Nobody says that about men.

Here you are certain that your thoughts about beauty are the right way, but you're ignoring the ugliness within.

I do, especially when they make dumb comments. So how is taking issue with women spending $$$ to inject their faces with chemicals to fight a losing battle with aging part of the patriarchy? You never were able to defend that pathetic statement.

Because any pressure by the patriarchy for women to conform to beauty standards encourages women to judge each other, which creates insecurity and envy. It neglects that many women in midlife and on are still in the workforce and will often be penalized for not conforming to beauty standards. If you chide a woman for getting botox, you're effectively telling her she must decide between her job and a cohort of women she's excluded from. And, internalized misogyny (that let's face it we all struggle with from time to time) often treats women with the same contempt they receive from the patriarchal system.

Honestly, the less energy we give this the better.

You say my statement is pathetic, but all you've done is attack another woman and me.

Your statement is word salad nonsense. You are absolutely delusional if you think Botox is saving your job.

I said I hadn't had Botox and am not planning on it. But, carry on demeaning and insulting women. You're good at it.

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Anonymous wrote:It helps to live in the DMV where I’ve never seen a woman wear makeup. I guess if I lived in CA or TX I might be reaching for these interventions more.

+1. My office is full of 40-65 year old women, and no one does anything. I feel like doing anything would make me stand out in a weird way.

This is why the DMV sucks so bad. You don't have to have a Mar-a-lago face to look nice. I dress up everyday and do wear makeup. I certainly stand out in the office. I also get a LOT of compliments because I act like I give a sh*t.

I do all the things. Botox, micro-needling, chemical peels, really good skincare. I recently had filler dissolved that was initially under my eyes for hallows, but it moved into my cheeks. If you didn't know you wouldn't notice b/c I have high cheekbones, but it bothered me. Much happier without it.

I also dress nicely and am thin. I am very fit. I'm 56. I'm not trying to look younger, just really good for my age.

Just people are polite enough not to mention your messed up fillers doesn’t mean they didn’t notice.

That's really mean. Why are women saying these kinds of things? It's the patriarchy getting us to fight.

I probably won't ever get fillers, Botox, etc, but I don't know why we're tearing each other down. I don't think either way is right or says something larger about society. It's the mommy wars continued.

I’m confident that sticking chemicals in your face to fight a losing battle is the wrong way. I have no idea what you are prattling on about the patriarchy and mommy wars. Lord. Women don’t gain, nearly what they lose, when they spend so much money on their appearance.

You continue to prove my point with the sexist term "prattling on."

I am happy to report that prattling on is an equal opportunity insult.

Nope. Nobody says that about men.

Here you are certain that your thoughts about beauty are the right way, but you're ignoring the ugliness within.

I do, especially when they make dumb comments. So how is taking issue with women spending $$$ to inject their faces with chemicals to fight a losing battle with aging part of the patriarchy? You never were able to defend that pathetic statement.

Because any pressure by the patriarchy for women to conform to beauty standards encourages women to judge each other, which creates insecurity and envy. It neglects that many women in midlife and on are still in the workforce and will often be penalized for not conforming to beauty standards. If you chide a woman for getting botox, you're effectively telling her she must decide between her job and a cohort of women she's excluded from. And, internalized misogyny (that let's face it we all struggle with from time to time) often treats women with the same contempt they receive from the patriarchal system.

Honestly, the less energy we give this the better.

You say my statement is pathetic, but all you've done is attack another woman and me.

Your statement is word salad nonsense. You are absolutely delusional if you think Botox is saving your job.

I said I hadn't had Botox and am not planning on it. But, carry on demeaning and insulting women. You're good at it.

Are you saying that I am not allowed to point out how poorly thought out your comments are because you are a womqn?

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Anonymous wrote:I have always aged naturally - throughout life and will continue to do so.

The only feature of aging that I don't like is the drooping down of the sides of my mouth as I look sad or upset or unhappy all the time. Kind of looks like a permanent frown.

I relate to this. I guess I have angry genes, because I had deep 11s that looked like a permanent scowl by age 28, so I've been getting Botox there ever since. There's no reason I should have to spend most of my life looking angry when the fix is really quite simple.