Psych Sheet out for PVS Open Champs

[Anonymous]

How you know this is a D-list ‘championship’ meet: of the 30+ teams, only ONE entered swimmers in 400 medley relays. Even your coaches do not care.
The earlier poster who said the meet gives younger kids valuable prelims-finals experience was off base. If it was about that then teams would enter inexperienced relay swimmers to get them more valuable experience. Nobody cares.
Why is everybody playing along? To get a few medals for swimmers who know they do not mean anything? They are barely better than a summer swim ribbon.
The meet is absolutely pointless. It is not even the NIT of local SC champs. That is an insult to the NIT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How you know this is a D-list ‘championship’ meet: of the 30+ teams, only ONE entered swimmers in 400 medley relays. Even your coaches do not care.
The earlier poster who said the meet gives younger kids valuable prelims-finals experience was off base. If it was about that then teams would enter inexperienced relay swimmers to get them more valuable experience. Nobody cares.
Why is everybody playing along? To get a few medals for swimmers who know they do not mean anything? They are barely better than a summer swim ribbon.
The meet is absolutely pointless. It is not even the NIT of local SC champs. That is an insult to the NIT

Dramatic much?

Our team didn't enter relays because of the timing of the relays. They are at the end of the meet. We are local and this meet is a lot of driving back and forth. So it was too much to ask.

But we did not taper for this meet because these kids will taper for the meets in a few weeks. Coaches just use this as the last grind before starting taper.

[Anonymous]

The relay timing is the same at all these meets. That has nothing to do with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The meet is the swimsitting championship. It is for the family’s who subsidize the majority of each club’s payroll for the top. You need a forum to let these swimmers feel part of the team, feel part of group, and to justify that thousand of dollars and hours spent each year chasing the gold are really worth it.

Swimsitting is a new one, but spot on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How you know this is a D-list ‘championship’ meet: of the 30+ teams, only ONE entered swimmers in 400 medley relays. Even your coaches do not care.
The earlier poster who said the meet gives younger kids valuable prelims-finals experience was off base. If it was about that then teams would enter inexperienced relay swimmers to get them more valuable experience. Nobody cares.
Why is everybody playing along? To get a few medals for swimmers who know they do not mean anything? They are barely better than a summer swim ribbon.
The meet is absolutely pointless. It is not even the NIT of local SC champs. That is an insult to the NIT

Okay, but who cares? Why does it matter if this is a D level Championship?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The meet is the swimsitting championship. It is for the family’s who subsidize the majority of each club’s payroll for the top. You need a forum to let these swimmers feel part of the team, feel part of group, and to justify that thousand of dollars and hours spent each year chasing the gold are really worth it.

Kids in this meet have committed to swim at D1 and ivy league schools AND have secured some best times. Others are recruiting as juniors and have secured some excellent times.

Just bc it is not a higher level meet does not mean it fails to provide significant value to a wide range of athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meet is the swimsitting championship. It is for the family’s who subsidize the majority of each club’s payroll for the top. You need a forum to let these swimmers feel part of the team, feel part of group, and to justify that thousand of dollars and hours spent each year chasing the gold are really worth it.

Kids in this meet have committed to swim at D1 and ivy league schools AND have secured some best times. Others are recruiting as juniors and have secured some excellent times.

Just bc it is not a higher level meet does not mean it fails to provide significant value to a wide range of athletes.

Thank you, PP. Parents of the "super fast", please just relax and don't spin up about being in a meet with the "pretty fast". The amount of anger you have for this meet is bizarre. It's almost like you resent that the "pretty fast" are getting an opportunity to be in a champs meet. I promise you it doesn't affect your "super fast" swimmers and their NCSA or Zones or whatever it is that you deem more worthy of your time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meet is the swimsitting championship. It is for the family’s who subsidize the majority of each club’s payroll for the top. You need a forum to let these swimmers feel part of the team, feel part of group, and to justify that thousand of dollars and hours spent each year chasing the gold are really worth it.

Kids in this meet have committed to swim at D1 and ivy league schools AND have secured some best times. Others are recruiting as juniors and have secured some excellent times.

Just bc it is not a higher level meet does not mean it fails to provide significant value to a wide range of athletes.

Thank you, PP. Parents of the "super fast", please just relax and don't spin up about being in a meet with the "pretty fast". The amount of anger you have for this meet is bizarre. It's almost like you resent that the "pretty fast" are getting an opportunity to be in a champs meet. I promise you it doesn't affect your "super fast" swimmers and their NCSA or Zones or whatever it is that you deem more worthy of your time.

You’re an idiot if you look down on any meet. Katie Ladecky
Broke her own record in the mile at a brand new meet with a bunch of “kids” swimming as her competiton in 12/2026…and became the first woman to swim a mile in under 15 minutes.

Looks like she would disagree with this stupid thought!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The meet is the swimsitting championship. It is for the family’s who subsidize the majority of each club’s payroll for the top. You need a forum to let these swimmers feel part of the team, feel part of group, and to justify that thousand of dollars and hours spent each year chasing the gold are really worth it.

Kids in this meet have committed to swim at D1 and ivy league schools AND have secured some best times. Others are recruiting as juniors and have secured some excellent times.

Just bc it is not a higher level meet does not mean it fails to provide significant value to a wide range of athletes.

Thank you, PP. Parents of the "super fast", please just relax and don't spin up about being in a meet with the "pretty fast". The amount of anger you have for this meet is bizarre. It's almost like you resent that the "pretty fast" are getting an opportunity to be in a champs meet. I promise you it doesn't affect your "super fast" swimmers and their NCSA or Zones or whatever it is that you deem more worthy of your time.

You’re an idiot if you look down on any meet. Katie Ladecky
Broke her own record in the mile at a brand new meet with a bunch of “kids” swimming as her competiton in 12/2026…and became the first woman to swim a mile in under 15 minutes.

Looks like she would disagree with this stupid thought!

That's kind of a bad example. She skipped this meet when she was a teenager. She went to the December meet last year because they renamed it FOR HER. (It wasn't a new meet, really)

[Anonymous]

Katie is a great comp for these kids. Totally realistic for DD and DS.

[Anonymous]

This meet was well run. Finals were quick and loved that the officials timed. That never happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The meet is the swimsitting championship. It is for the family’s who subsidize the majority of each club’s payroll for the top. You need a forum to let these swimmers feel part of the team, feel part of group, and to justify that thousand of dollars and hours spent each year chasing the gold are really worth it.

Kids in this meet have committed to swim at D1 and ivy league schools AND have secured some best times. Others are recruiting as juniors and have secured some excellent times.

Just bc it is not a higher level meet does not mean it fails to provide significant value to a wide range of athletes.

Thank you, PP. Parents of the "super fast", please just relax and don't spin up about being in a meet with the "pretty fast". The amount of anger you have for this meet is bizarre. It's almost like you resent that the "pretty fast" are getting an opportunity to be in a champs meet. I promise you it doesn't affect your "super fast" swimmers and their NCSA or Zones or whatever it is that you deem more worthy of your time.

You’re an idiot if you look down on any meet. Katie Ladecky
Broke her own record in the mile at a brand new meet with a bunch of “kids” swimming as her competiton in 12/2026…and became the first woman to swim a mile in under 15 minutes.

Looks like she would disagree with this stupid thought!

That's kind of a bad example. She skipped this meet when she was a teenager. She went to the December meet last year because they renamed it FOR HER. (It wasn't a new meet, really)

Y or N: she broke the record at a meet that was not a high stakes meet, zero competition for her (not Olympic level athletes), not officiant’s officiating where they time and in unison approach the edge of the pool together)

[Anonymous]

Y or N : do not compare anybody, least of all your own kid, to the greatest swimmer in history

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Katie is a great comp for these kids. Totally realistic for DD and DS.

It always cracks me up when people are like “oh yeah, well Katie Ledecky!” as if she is an appropriate comparison point for anyone else on earth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This meet was well run. Finals were quick and loved that the officials timed. That never happens.

Indeed it was.

Apologies to all you OTQ level parents who had to endure the AAA and AAAA riff-raff. I assume you know you can just not enter, right?