Why do we have such low standards for ICE hiring and training?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare. Unfortunately every day, across the country, patients are trying to hit, kick, grope, spit on, assault healthcare staff. I work for a hospital that has an ER with a metal detector, but plenty of hospitals do not and are having to subdue patients not even knowing if they have a weapon. Also FWIW, medications like Haldol are not immediately effective, require coming at a combative patient with a sharp needle while someone holds them down, and may require multiple doses before the patient is subdued.

And yet, there accepted standards and culture healthcare. You do NOT curse at patients. Ever. Cussing out a patient could get you fired whether you are a doctor, nurses aide or hospital security. You don't punch them in the head. Choke holds are banned. Force and restraint are used if necessary, but under the concept of "nonmaleficence" to prevent harm. And yes, there are some horrific examples of violence toward healthcare workers which is worsening over time and speak to a need for increased screening and protection of staff. Our hospital security officers carry guns and we have had shooting scares - someone pulled a gun in the ER or the ICU, etc.

But when I see videos of ICE, it is just jarring. There are zero standards for professionalism, appears to be zero training on how to deescalate a situation. While most of our hospital ecurity are excellent, as a nurse manager, I once kicked a new hospital security officer off of my unit because they were so arrogant and confrontational, they made a bad situation worse. I think of that when I see ICE.

Shouldn't even Republicans want to have basic professionalism standards and adequate training for federal officers?

What’s stopping you from becoming an ICE officer?

[Anonymous]

A few GOP congressmen are speaking up about their concerns regarding ICE training standards.

A handful of GOP lawmakers are showing an openness to Democrats’ demand that immigration officers should get more training in the wake of the shooting of 37-year-old Renee Good in Minneapolis. These lawmakers are not going so far as to criticize the Trump administration’s approach to immigration enforcement outright — and Republicans on the Hill are mostly backing the Trump administration’s ICE operations — but they’re raising the possibility that additional training could make such shootings less likely.

The calls for new training for ICE agents and other immigration officers come as Immigration and Customs Enforcement is facing one of its greatest crises of public legitimacy. Polls by Quinnipiac and by YouGov released this month suggest that a majority of Americans believe ICE is using too much force in carrying out immigration operations. Polling also shows that support for abolishing the immigration enforcement agency outright is rapidly increasing.

*“The more training they could have, the better it’ll be, because they’re dealing with some strange stuff going on that’s coming at them in a lot of different directions,” said Sen. Jim Justice (R-W.Va.), noting how ICE officers use masks to prevent online activists from doxxing them or their families.

*Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas), the current vice chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, said that while ICE officers are already getting detailed training, more would be helpful. “Law enforcement needs training to be aware of how to handle certain situations,” he said. “It’s hard to sit there and take it and get abused.”

*Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who chairs the Senate Homeland Security Committee, emphasized that the bigger issue is the existence of sanctuary cities, which he argued forced federal agents to conduct these kinds of crackdowns. But he added: “I’m not against more training.”

*“They need to show more balance in enforcement and more compassion and empathy in enforcement,” said Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Penn.), an influential moderate who’s worked with Democrats to pass legislation the White House opposes.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/15/ice-training-republicans-shootings-00732583

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few GOP congressmen are speaking up about their concerns regarding ICE training standards.

A handful of GOP lawmakers are showing an openness to Democrats’ demand that immigration officers should get more training in the wake of the shooting of 37-year-old Renee Good in Minneapolis. These lawmakers are not going so far as to criticize the Trump administration’s approach to immigration enforcement outright — and Republicans on the Hill are mostly backing the Trump administration’s ICE operations — but they’re raising the possibility that additional training could make such shootings less likely.

The calls for new training for ICE agents and other immigration officers come as Immigration and Customs Enforcement is facing one of its greatest crises of public legitimacy. Polls by Quinnipiac and by YouGov released this month suggest that a majority of Americans believe ICE is using too much force in carrying out immigration operations. Polling also shows that support for abolishing the immigration enforcement agency outright is rapidly increasing.

*“The more training they could have, the better it’ll be, because they’re dealing with some strange stuff going on that’s coming at them in a lot of different directions,” said Sen. Jim Justice (R-W.Va.), noting how ICE officers use masks to prevent online activists from doxxing them or their families.

*Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas), the current vice chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, said that while ICE officers are already getting detailed training, more would be helpful. “Law enforcement needs training to be aware of how to handle certain situations,” he said. “It’s hard to sit there and take it and get abused.”

*Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who chairs the Senate Homeland Security Committee, emphasized that the bigger issue is the existence of sanctuary cities, which he argued forced federal agents to conduct these kinds of crackdowns. But he added: “I’m not against more training.”

*“They need to show more balance in enforcement and more compassion and empathy in enforcement,” said Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Penn.), an influential moderate who’s worked with Democrats to pass legislation the White House opposes.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/15/ice-training-republicans-shootings-00732583

I guess this is a start but the bolded is far from true. We know that many of them have gotten 47 days. What are they doing for 47 days? We have no idea. Are they shown propaganda films for 46 days while getting 1 day of weapons training? We've seen ICE dummies holding guns sideways when their guns should be holstered.

And we also know, according to NBC, that some of them don't have the 47 days. ICE is relying on AI to place its goons. (I wonder how much the taxpayers are spending on this crap software). The AI placed untrained people in the field.

[Anonymous]

Today I learned that the $50,000 bonus is not so simple. 10K they get shortly after starting. Then at the end of years 2, 3, 4, and 5, they get another 10K.

They need to have perfect job performance.

I wonder what the fallout will be when these peabrained ICE goons realize that 5 years is not sustainable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today I learned that the $50,000 bonus is not so simple. 10K they get shortly after starting. Then at the end of years 2, 3, 4, and 5, they get another 10K.

They need to have perfect job performance.

I wonder what the fallout will be when these peabrained ICE goons realize that 5 years is not sustainable.

This is probably why they are acting so nuts. They have to hit quota to get their next 10,000.

[Anonymous]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-orders-release-liberian-man-arrested-minneapolis-agents-129268651

Another court order violated by ICE dummies.

[Anonymous]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1qetq5t/ice_agents_fly_is_down_called_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

ICE dummy's fly is down

[Anonymous]

ICE dummies think they will get food at a Mexican restaurant https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1qe2d3o/thats_how_its_done/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[Anonymous]

Are you aware that some people get rejected by the military and the police for being too smart and too independently minded?

Trump wants poorly educated hateful people in ICE, the kind that will follow any directive and enjoy any opportunity to inflict cruelty on fellow citizens as well as undocumented immigrants.

The low standards are intentional.

[Anonymous]

The DEA is now being used for stopping random brown people. See the hat. https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1qeqvnh/racial_profiling_with_no_reasonable_suspicion_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ICE dummies think they will get food at a Mexican restaurant https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1qe2d3o/thats_how_its_done/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

ICE dummies actually get food at another Mexican restaurant--and then detain the workers
https://www.startribune.com/ice-agents-eat-at-small-town-mexican-restaurant-then-detain-workers/601565580

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare. Unfortunately every day, across the country, patients are trying to hit, kick, grope, spit on, assault healthcare staff. I work for a hospital that has an ER with a metal detector, but plenty of hospitals do not and are having to subdue patients not even knowing if they have a weapon. Also FWIW, medications like Haldol are not immediately effective, require coming at a combative patient with a sharp needle while someone holds them down, and may require multiple doses before the patient is subdued.

And yet, there accepted standards and culture healthcare. You do NOT curse at patients. Ever. Cussing out a patient could get you fired whether you are a doctor, nurses aide or hospital security. You don't punch them in the head. Choke holds are banned. Force and restraint are used if necessary, but under the concept of "nonmaleficence" to prevent harm. And yes, there are some horrific examples of violence toward healthcare workers which is worsening over time and speak to a need for increased screening and protection of staff. Our hospital security officers carry guns and we have had shooting scares - someone pulled a gun in the ER or the ICU, etc.

But when I see videos of ICE, it is just jarring. There are zero standards for professionalism, appears to be zero training on how to deescalate a situation. While most of our hospital ecurity are excellent, as a nurse manager, I once kicked a new hospital security officer off of my unit because they were so arrogant and confrontational, they made a bad situation worse. I think of that when I see ICE.

Shouldn't even Republicans want to have basic professionalism standards and adequate training for federal officers?

You are comparing apples to microwaves. While your underlying premise about professionalism is true, please don’t compare people that take the Hippocratic Oath to those that enforce the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you aware that some people get rejected by the military and the police for being too smart and too independently minded?

This trope is based on a single court case in Connecticut decades ago.

[Anonymous]

Trump, like his good friend Netanyahu, is following the Nazi playbook verbatim. Men who were KKK members 50 years ago. They have limited education and being white is the only thing they have to make them feel superior to people of color.

A bucket of warm spit has more value than these hateful, hate filled ICE-trump goons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ICE dummies think they will get food at a Mexican restaurant https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1qe2d3o/thats_how_its_done/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

ICE dummies actually get food at another Mexican restaurant--and then detain the workers
https://www.startribune.com/ice-agents-eat-at-small-town-mexican-restaurant-then-detain-workers/601565580

How on Earth do hey think that it’s safe to go out in their costumes and eat the food served to them?