Great colleges with fewer intense strivers

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Anonymous wrote:Lol only smart kids go to Duke and Dartmouth sorry you can’t get in.

Lol both schools will admit a kid with a 1250 over a kid with a 1580 if the 1250 fills some institutional priority and the AO who reads the application happens to decide that the 1580 kid seems boring or unlikeable.

Are you AO? Stop spreading lies. Kids are evaluated holistically including SAT.

* 22% Valedictorian
* 95% top 10% of the class
* 99% submitted

Fact check - https://admissions.dartmouth.edu/sites/admissions.prod/files/admissions/wysiwyg/class29profile_fin.pdf

There are lots of tricks to make the numbers look good. Again, I am going by the kids who went to Dartmouth from DC’s school last year. Not a single one of them was in the top 10 percent of the class. One of them was not even in the top 20 percent. But that won’t show up above because technically, the school doesn’t rank. (The top 10 and 20 become apparent from cum laude indication).

Great. Please stay away from schools that admit normal human.

By “normal human” you mean having parents that are big donors?

Kind of laughable but I thought one of the reasons people so prestige obsessed and want to go to Ivy League for "connections" are basically targeting these donors' families, no?
So what is wrong of admitting these families?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Duke and when I went to a top tier professional school, it was very clear how much more relaxed and comfortable in their own skin the Duke alums than people from almost every other school (while still being top achievers). We got our work done very well with much less drama than others.

Unfortunately, I think Duke has a lot more strivers now than it used to. Which is really too bad. I think a non-striver can still be happy there if they can avoid getting sucked in.

This is satire, right?

I think it's an utter lack of self awareness. I've never met a more obnoxious group as a whole than Duke grads. They are insufferable.

Fully agree

Their insufferably is worse than pretty much everything but the saltiness of UNC grads.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Duke and when I went to a top tier professional school, it was very clear how much more relaxed and comfortable in their own skin the Duke alums than people from almost every other school (while still being top achievers). We got our work done very well with much less drama than others.

Unfortunately, I think Duke has a lot more strivers now than it used to. Which is really too bad. I think a non-striver can still be happy there if they can avoid getting sucked in.

This is satire, right?

I think it's an utter lack of self awareness. I've never met a more obnoxious group as a whole than Duke grads. They are insufferable.

Funny because in corporate America Duke alums have a reputation as being the best to work with because they have people skills, unlike Ivy League nerds, bookworms and strivers. Agree that there are plenty of D-bags from Duke, but there are many who are not.

DDMF.

I mean you - presumably a Duke alum - insulted Ivy grads "nerds, bookworms and strivers." Which proves my point of how insufferable Duke grads are.

Dook grads think they're the cool nerds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of defensive strivers posting in the thread. And/or people too dumb to know what a striver is. Kind of funny. The increase in strivers is why college sucks so much these days. Good admission officers can pick them out and avoid them but there is only so much they can do.

A striver is anyone that works harder than me and a slacker is anyone that works less than me.

My success is due to my ability effort and talent, everyone else's success is due to being born on third base, sucking up to the teacher/client/boss.

Welcome to the world of wypipo

[Anonymous]

Dook grads- must be an alum from Bill Belichick U. How did that $15-20 million football coaches salaries turn out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lol only smart kids go to Duke and Dartmouth sorry you can’t get in.

Lol both schools will admit a kid with a 1250 over a kid with a 1580 if the 1250 fills some institutional priority and the AO who reads the application happens to decide that the 1580 kid seems boring or unlikeable.

Are you AO? Stop spreading lies. Kids are evaluated holistically including SAT.

* 22% Valedictorian
* 95% top 10% of the class
* 99% submitted

Fact check - https://admissions.dartmouth.edu/sites/admissions.prod/files/admissions/wysiwyg/class29profile_fin.pdf

If you think every 1580 kid who applies to Dartmouth is getting in, you have a lot to learn.

If you think a 1250 SAT is getting in because they play tuba or lacrosse, you have a lot to learn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lol only smart kids go to Duke and Dartmouth sorry you can’t get in.

Lol both schools will admit a kid with a 1250 over a kid with a 1580 if the 1250 fills some institutional priority and the AO who reads the application happens to decide that the 1580 kid seems boring or unlikeable.

Are you AO? Stop spreading lies. Kids are evaluated holistically including SAT.

* 22% Valedictorian
* 95% top 10% of the class
* 99% submitted

Fact check - https://admissions.dartmouth.edu/sites/admissions.prod/files/admissions/wysiwyg/class29profile_fin.pdf

If you think every 1580 kid who applies to Dartmouth is getting in, you have a lot to learn.

of course not. Schools do not admit students by SAT

There is a positive correlation between SAT score and admission to selective colleges.

[Anonymous]

Other terms students like to use for this type are tryhards and sweats. Anyone else hearing these?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Williams was collaborative back in the day. No one discussed grades.

Academically, it's very, very hard now. Good, collaborative kids, but they're under a lot more pressure than at other top schools. The grind is part of the culture - discussed often.

My kid is at Williams and he was surprised by how academically rigorous it is compared to his high school - especially since most graduates of his high school (except pre meds/math/engineering) talk about how easy their T20 colleges are compared to high school. He does find it very collaborative, though and really loves that and pretty much everything else about. He just got a B+ in a class - his first course grade under an A- ever - and he is having a slight nervous breakdown LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, the basic question is competitiveness vs collaboration in the student body? I think this is more a function of the individual and their outlook. Major may also play a role in that outlook, as premeds are under intense pressure for grades.

My kid hung his hat on collaborative rather than competitive in deciding to apply ED to Northwestern two years ago, sophomore in engineering, happy as a clam.

What kind of stats do you need for engineering at Northwestern to be a realistic reach? Is it essential to ED and demonstrate interest?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lol only smart kids go to Duke and Dartmouth sorry you can’t get in.

Lol both schools will admit a kid with a 1250 over a kid with a 1580 if the 1250 fills some institutional priority and the AO who reads the application happens to decide that the 1580 kid seems boring or unlikeable.

Are you AO? Stop spreading lies. Kids are evaluated holistically including SAT.

* 22% Valedictorian
* 95% top 10% of the class
* 99% submitted

Fact check - https://admissions.dartmouth.edu/sites/admissions.prod/files/admissions/wysiwyg/class29profile_fin.pdf

If you think every 1580 kid who applies to Dartmouth is getting in, you have a lot to learn.

If you think a 1250 SAT is getting in because they play tuba or lacrosse, you have a lot to learn.

Lacrosse or football or basketball, probably.

There's a reason why Ivies are so secretive about their recruits' SAT scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol only smart kids go to Duke and Dartmouth sorry you can’t get in.

Lol both schools will admit a kid with a 1250 over a kid with a 1580 if the 1250 fills some institutional priority and the AO who reads the application happens to decide that the 1580 kid seems boring or unlikeable.

Are you AO? Stop spreading lies. Kids are evaluated holistically including SAT.

* 22% Valedictorian
* 95% top 10% of the class
* 99% submitted

Fact check - https://admissions.dartmouth.edu/sites/admissions.prod/files/admissions/wysiwyg/class29profile_fin.pdf

If you think every 1580 kid who applies to Dartmouth is getting in, you have a lot to learn.

If you think a 1250 SAT is getting in because they play tuba or lacrosse, you have a lot to learn.

Lacrosse or football or basketball, probably.

There's a reason why Ivies are so secretive about their recruits' SAT scores.

After the harvard lawsuit, we know what the sat scores are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Very simple well rounded smart kids tend to go to schools with good sports school not nerdy schools. Duke, ND, Vandy, snd Dartmouth would be top ranked of fun schools. Next would Williams, Bowdoin, Colby, Colgate and Holy Cross in that order of academic selectivity. Nerdy schools Amherst, Wesleyan, Carleton, Vassar, Bates, etc.

I guess your definition of “well rounded smart kids” is different from mine. What I see from DD’s school is that not-particularly-smart kids with rich (donor) parents go to the first group of schools.

As an aside, if you consider Amherst to be nerdy, you really have no idea what you are talking about!

What’s Amherst really like from those with first hand experience, not just hearsay?

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Just go to any school below T50.

When I was younger, I don’t remember anyone being called a striver. Being hard working and ambitious was considered a compliment.

Now that I’m a parent, I see the ultra competitive parents who are probably what people consider strivers. Their problem seems to be that they show their ambition too much that it turns people off.

DH is super competitive and very successful. If you meet him, he seems very laid back.