Women, at what age did you find men become "old"?

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Anonymous wrote:Men age much worse than women, but by simply deciding their evidence of aging is less unsightly than women’s signs of aging, they live in denial about it. So odd.

I don’t blame you for not being able to see women through men’s eyes, but you’re in denial about how bad older women look.

Even if true, that ignores your own bias re: your own gender. We are all aging humans. I personally find balding incredibly unsightly, so that makes me judge male aging harshly, but there's nothing about male aging that favors them otherwise. Their hair greys, their skin sags and wrinkles, their body fat redistributes. There is no biological advantage in the aging game that favors men.

I agree with this. There is a period when women are looking for partners to settle down and start a family with, and women will prioritize things like stability and financial security over other qualities in a partner. During this period in a woman's life, older men are appealing. However, once men are about 60, they're no longer husband material, so they don't get points for being smart and having a good job. At that point, they look more like a liability, especially to younger women, so men of that age need to stay married, or if widowed or divorced, date within their own age range. Even if men can find a younger partner, they won't be able to satisfy her for long. Women over 60 generally aren't dating, anyway. They are typically focused on friends, kids, and grandkids. The ones who are dating are definitely not dating older, because men's lifespans are shorter, and the older they get, the more likely they are to need a caregiver-type partner. No one wants to do that for someone they meet later in life, with whom they have no shared history or shared finances.

A man in his mid 50-60s needs to be ratted wealthy to offer the woman some superior financial security vs what she already has ln her own, in order for it to last . I personally wouldn’t consider marrying older even for money as I have my own

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Anonymous wrote:Women "hit the wall" as they say around menopause, so late 40s to late 50s women age fast.

Men don't hit a wall really, and age like wine IF they take care of themselves.

However like wine, eventually they do hit a wall, albeit a smaller wall, eventually. If they take care of themselves, that is usually in their 70s when they catch up to women in aging looks.

TLDR Women 40s-50s. Men 70s. Which is why a 10-20 year age gap is best for women/men.

This will crass but depends on ethnicity. White women hit the wall early thirties. White men can look ok until 50 - assuming they take care of themselves. Different for Asians, blacks, others. I’m a white woman btw…

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50 is a declining point for both genders.

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Which races age better on average?

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Anonymous wrote:Which races age better on average?

Asian

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A lot of men don’t really look old in the face/body until 60 ot so. But the machinery is definitely showing its age by 50 unfortunately. And once in the 70, the brain starts to age significantly in men (faster than in most women, it seems to me).

I’m in my 50s and still find guys in their mid 30s to be the hottest unfortunately. I think that’s been true since my mid 20s. But 60s PP, don’t lost heart. We all make compromises and if you have a good personality, that makes up for a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Which races age better on average?

I think white people age the worst (assuming equivalent socio-economic status - which is a pretty big assumption because of how the U.S. works.) There's a big gap, but after I guess I'd say Hispanic, then Asian, then Black people probably age the best. (Again, assuming non-racial factors are equal.) I honestly don't have enough experience with American Indians to know where to put them in the list.

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Anonymous wrote:Women "hit the wall" as they say around menopause, so late 40s to late 50s women age fast.

Men don't hit a wall really, and age like wine IF they take care of themselves.

However like wine, eventually they do hit a wall, albeit a smaller wall, eventually. If they take care of themselves, that is usually in their 70s when they catch up to women in aging looks.

TLDR Women 40s-50s. Men 70s. Which is why a 10-20 year age gap is best for women/men.

This will crass but depends on ethnicity. White women hit the wall early thirties. White men can look ok until 50 - assuming they take care of themselves. Different for Asians, blacks, others. I’m a white woman btw…

Nonsense. Every race ages. Hyperpigmentation, neck rings, etc. appear more in some races than others.

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Anonymous wrote:Men age much worse than women, but by simply deciding their evidence of aging is less unsightly than women’s signs of aging, they live in denial about it. So odd.

I don’t blame you for not being able to see women through men’s eyes, but you’re in denial about how bad older women look.

Even if true, that ignores your own bias re: your own gender. We are all aging humans. I personally find balding incredibly unsightly, so that makes me judge male aging harshly, but there's nothing about male aging that favors them otherwise. Their hair greys, their skin sags and wrinkles, their body fat redistributes. There is no biological advantage in the aging game that favors men.

Yes there is. Women experience menopause, men don’t.

What happens to men as they age is to a great degree a matter of choice. If his body fat “redistributes” that’s because he chose not to exercise. Ditto if his posture stoops.

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Anonymous wrote:Men age much worse than women, but by simply deciding their evidence of aging is less unsightly than women’s signs of aging, they live in denial about it. So odd.

I don’t blame you for not being able to see women through men’s eyes, but you’re in denial about how bad older women look.

Many men here try to get posters women triggered. I asked my 19 yo son and three men from my circle to rank profiles of attractive 50 yo women. For example this woman earlier linked on this thread.
My son and all the RL men I asked found her pretty and youthful looking. She’s 50, and I just provide this as an example of a good looking woman in this age group. I can’t imagine how she might be looking old and unattractive to anyone.

https://imgur.com/a/tbOTkfh

this woman looks 35 and is in no way typical

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men age much worse than women, but by simply deciding their evidence of aging is less unsightly than women’s signs of aging, they live in denial about it. So odd.

I don’t blame you for not being able to see women through men’s eyes, but you’re in denial about how bad older women look.

Many men here try to get posters women triggered. I asked my 19 yo son and three men from my circle to rank profiles of attractive 50 yo women. For example this woman earlier linked on this thread.
My son and all the RL men I asked found her pretty and youthful looking. She’s 50, and I just provide this as an example of a good looking woman in this age group. I can’t imagine how she might be looking old and unattractive to anyone.

https://imgur.com/a/tbOTkfh

this woman looks 35 and is in no way typical

I see many like that in my circle and on the apps. Recently consulted with plastic surgeon myself he advised against anything on my face till 10 more years. I’m 48.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men age much worse than women, but by simply deciding their evidence of aging is less unsightly than women’s signs of aging, they live in denial about it. So odd.

I don’t blame you for not being able to see women through men’s eyes, but you’re in denial about how bad older women look.

Even if true, that ignores your own bias re: your own gender. We are all aging humans. I personally find balding incredibly unsightly, so that makes me judge male aging harshly, but there's nothing about male aging that favors them otherwise. Their hair greys, their skin sags and wrinkles, their body fat redistributes. There is no biological advantage in the aging game that favors men.

Yes there is. Women experience menopause, men don’t.

What happens to men as they age is to a great degree a matter of choice. If his body fat “redistributes” that’s because he chose not to exercise. Ditto if his posture stoops.

You do realize that if the woman uses HRT the rapid menopause aging won’t happen, right ?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men age much worse than women, but by simply deciding their evidence of aging is less unsightly than women’s signs of aging, they live in denial about it. So odd.

I don’t blame you for not being able to see women through men’s eyes, but you’re in denial about how bad older women look.

Many men here try to get posters women triggered. I asked my 19 yo son and three men from my circle to rank profiles of attractive 50 yo women. For example this woman earlier linked on this thread.
My son and all the RL men I asked found her pretty and youthful looking. She’s 50, and I just provide this as an example of a good looking woman in this age group. I can’t imagine how she might be looking old and unattractive to anyone.

https://imgur.com/a/tbOTkfh

this woman looks 35 and is in no way typical

I’m skeptical that is an unfiltered photo of a real person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men age much worse than women, but by simply deciding their evidence of aging is less unsightly than women’s signs of aging, they live in denial about it. So odd.

I don’t blame you for not being able to see women through men’s eyes, but you’re in denial about how bad older women look.

Even if true, that ignores your own bias re: your own gender. We are all aging humans. I personally find balding incredibly unsightly, so that makes me judge male aging harshly, but there's nothing about male aging that favors them otherwise. Their hair greys, their skin sags and wrinkles, their body fat redistributes. There is no biological advantage in the aging game that favors men.

Yes there is. Women experience menopause, men don’t.

What happens to men as they age is to a great degree a matter of choice. If his body fat “redistributes” that’s because he chose not to exercise. Ditto if his posture stoops.

There is a lot of unattractive physical aging that occurs in men that is beyond their control, like male pattern baldness, greying hair, hair growth in ears and nose (eww), decrease in collagen in skin leading to wrinkles and sagging, sun and age spots in skin, lack of skin elasticity in face and other areas, loss of bone density over time including in the face which is most visible, graduale decline in testosterone (1% per year after 30), gradual hearing loss, enlarged prostate, etc. Most men don't look good after 50 to people under 50. None looks good after 60 to people under 60.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men age much worse than women, but by simply deciding their evidence of aging is less unsightly than women’s signs of aging, they live in denial about it. So odd.

I don’t blame you for not being able to see women through men’s eyes, but you’re in denial about how bad older women look.

Many men here try to get posters women triggered. I asked my 19 yo son and three men from my circle to rank profiles of attractive 50 yo women. For example this woman earlier linked on this thread.
My son and all the RL men I asked found her pretty and youthful looking. She’s 50, and I just provide this as an example of a good looking woman in this age group. I can’t imagine how she might be looking old and unattractive to anyone.

https://imgur.com/a/tbOTkfh

this woman looks 35 and is in no way typical

I’m skeptical that is an unfiltered photo of a real person.

I look very similar to that at 48. Just workout almost every day, drink a lot of water, use very strong sunscreen, regular skin routine and on HRT. I would have published my unfiltered face photos but it’s pointless - everyone would trash them, anyway. My cosmetic surgeon opinion that I look late 30s is sufficient. I’m a mixed race - Mongolian&Finnish.