20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?

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Anonymous wrote:How do house prices and all prices keep going up if nobody is making money and getting laid off? The government stopped printing money and buying its own bonds years ago.





Foreigners and also corporations are buying up US houses. It's forcing the prices up.
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Anonymous wrote:Job loss due to automation has been predicted since the start of the industrial revolution. We haven't seen mass unemployment yet. I'll believe it when I see it. Jobs will change, but there will be jobs.


My thoughts exactly.

As an aside, it is great to see young people deciding not to go to college and learning a trade instead - auto mechanic, plumbing, carpentry, welding......all jobs that pay well and will be around for some time to come.


Great jobs until no one can pay them.


If we’re ever in a situation where college educated white collar people can’t pay a plumber to fix a toilet, then the country is about to collapse.
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Anonymous wrote:How do house prices and all prices keep going up if nobody is making money and getting laid off? The government stopped printing money and buying its own bonds years ago.





Foreigners and also corporations are buying up US houses. It's forcing the prices up.


Foreign investment is down... prices are certainly beginning to drop.
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Anonymous wrote:Job loss due to automation has been predicted since the start of the industrial revolution. We haven't seen mass unemployment yet. I'll believe it when I see it. Jobs will change, but there will be jobs.


My thoughts exactly.

As an aside, it is great to see young people deciding not to go to college and learning a trade instead - auto mechanic, plumbing, carpentry, welding......all jobs that pay well and will be around for some time to come.


Great jobs until no one can pay them.


If we’re ever in a situation where college educated white collar people can’t pay a plumber to fix a toilet, then the country is about to collapse.


yes, that's what we're talking about.

we're 18-24 months away from most lawyers you know being put out of work... why isn't Trump trying to help us transition?
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when Amazon launched “just walk out” technology in their stores? They made everyone believe that this was the start of a new era and their stores could really thrive with just a fraction of the employees a traditional store had. Then when they announced the experiment failed, we found out that it wasn’t AI at all, but thousands of people in India tasked with watching what was going into the carts.

Also related: Elon’s humanoid robots being actual people in robot costumes.

They’re all lying and hoping their products can catch up in time.



I believe this more than AI actually doing someone's job. Companies are laying off right now because Musk demonstrated you can fire hundreds of thousands of people with zero consequences and then hire a fraction back at far less pay and no benefits.


Musk destroyed the company doing that. The only reason he succeeded is because Twitter is his propaganda machine, not a self-sustainingvbusiness.


Company performance doesn't matter. The CEOs are so rich they can run an unprofitable company for decades.


Right, and all the people who are like "I've interacted with AI and its' terrible, it'll never replace human workers!" are kidding themselves... Verizon and Anthem COULD provide you with customer service that immediately answered the phone and was empowered to solve your problem—but that costs money. They've figured out the minimum level of customer service necessary to keep you just above the level where you want out... they'd be happy to get AI customer service who offer shitty non-responsive service for a fraction of the cost of having a real person.

There is a very low bar for a lot of customer service—AI doesnt' have to be better, just not enough worse it makes people cancel.
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Anonymous wrote:This is the end game: https://medium.com/@paul.douglass73/freedom-democracy-and-the-rise-of-techno-feudalism-f176220833f6


In the sense that it's a non-sensical word salad?
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Anonymous wrote:The hype with AI is to boost sales and get more rounds of funding. We are years away from 30% of white collar workers losing their jobs.


exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:The hype with AI is to boost sales and get more rounds of funding. We are years away from 30% of white collar workers losing their jobs.


exactly.


sounds like a good time to start preparing... why aren't we?
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Anonymous wrote:The hype with AI is to boost sales and get more rounds of funding. We are years away from 30% of white collar workers losing their jobs.


exactly.


sounds like a good time to start preparing... why aren't we?



How?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The hype with AI is to boost sales and get more rounds of funding. We are years away from 30% of white collar workers losing their jobs.


exactly.


sounds like a good time to start preparing... why aren't we?

Good to see that the prepoer nutbags have one more bone to gnaw on.
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Anonymous wrote:The hype with AI is to boost sales and get more rounds of funding. We are years away from 30% of white collar workers losing their jobs.


exactly.


sounds like a good time to start preparing... why aren't we?



How?


training programs to find new jobs for all the people who are about to get fired... communicating to the white collar workers—lawyers, architects, etc—that they're in danger...

traditionally there have been rules in place preventing mass layoffs without warning and funds and programs in place to retrain workers who are put out of work en masse....
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